What do warmongers and strongmen chat about? Living forever, of course.
No it isn’t. All this microphone leak tells us is that these leaders are very far away from reality.
Man inadvertently broadcasts his insecurities and how he copes.
Yeah, other than the horrific ghoulishness of it all, organ failure after transplant and rejection is still relatively high, and you have to be on medicine to prevent that rejection your entire life. You’re going down Putin old boy.
It wouldn’t surprise me if they have an island of clones to get over that problem.
You can’t get past the old brain problem though so Donny’s shit out of luck.
Yeah, you can’t just stick a new engine in an old car when the frame is rusted out and ready to give way
What if you get skin, muscle, and bone transplants?
Good luck. Also your brain and vascular system will be huge bottle necks that can’t be replaced. Most people don’t realize it, but as people age, their veins and arteries begin to weaken\deteriorate to different extents depending on their overall health.
If you had an 80 year with CAD, and literally swapped out every organ you could, they would probably have an aneurysm and die within a few months. It would be like taking an old garden hose with dry rot and then pumping 5000gallons per minute through it when it’s only rated for 50 gpm to begin with
So, at this point it’s just better to transplant your brain in to a whole new body
I hope to never have to experience one organ transplant. They are morons if they think this is an elective option you’d want to do multiple times. Every single time is a threat to your life.
And life-long immunosuppressants with the constant mortal fear of a cough or runny nose. Sepsis is no joke and can easily develop in a matter of hours if you don’t have a healthy immune system.
I hope we gain more control over our immune systems in the coming years. They protect us, but they can also kill us. I have people in my family with life threatening allergies, and gosh it would be amazing if we could just get our bodies to accept a transplanted organ that is literally keeping them alive.
It’ll happen. But not for poor people.
It tells us they’re fucking morons. So nothing new.
Are they hoping for Jupiter, or Repo the Genetic Opera? Because this isn’t even close to Gattaca.
Either way, this has been a Science Fiction Movie.
Sure, cuz old sick people bounce right back easily from complex major surgeries like transplants.
I keep hearing people make this argument. This seems to presume that these insane blood thirsty dictators discussing immortality, are also rational individuals who wouldn’t be willing to stockpile organs first, then die trying.
I look forward to Putin dying in agony as his body finally rejects itself entierly due to numerous transplants compounded with horrific co-infections due to all the imuno supressants he’d have to be after going throguh that many transplants. Guy is basically asking to be eaten alive by his own immune system.
Somebody else mentioned that they thought they were probably talking about growing organs targeted to match DNA, but then I remembered this article I saw earlier this summer.
https://www.rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/forced-organ-harvesting-03202024133851.html
I brushed it off bc of who was giving the testimony, but honestly this comment from Putin makes me question if there is some truth to that. If you were able to find a match with genetic similarities to yourself, it would decrease the chance of the organ being rejected. Idk could be just a random coincidence.
The accusations against China using re-education camps to harvest organs closely matched to the recipient aren’t limited to only these kinds of organizations though. There was also this article released this past summer
“This massive expansion in Xinjiang – a region already under scrutiny for systematic repression – raises deeply troubling questions about where the organs will come from,” said Wendy Rogers, Distinguished Professor of Clinical Ethics and Chair of the International Advisory Board of the International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse in China (ETAC). “There is simply no justification for such growth in transplant capacity given the region’s official organ donation rate, which is far below the national average.”
This suggestion becomes even more concerning when considering the extensive surveillance and repression that Uyghurs face in the region. Detainees in the many internment camps in Xinjiang have reported being subjected to forced blood tests, ultrasounds, and organ-focused medical scans. These procedures align with organ compatibility testing, raising fears that Uyghurs are being prepped for organ harvesting while in detention.
Not to be confused with the Arizona Wendy Rogers who she unfortunately shares her name with, this lady is an Australian professor at Macquarie and bioethicist. She’s been doing human rights work and publishing about this stuff for a long time
https://iabioethics.world/2022%3A-wendy-rogers
The IAB recognized Wendy Rogers, Professor of Clinical Ethics at Macquarie University, Australia for her role in the registered Australian charity, International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse In China (ETAC). Rogers serves as ETAC’s Director and chairs its International Advisory Committee. In that capacity, Rogers raised public, professional, and governmental awareness of forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience in China
Shhhh! Shut up! **Shut the fuck up!**
This is a chance he’ll die on the OR table!
Put yourself through traumatic surgery and then load yourself up with immune suppressants in a world that’s gonna develop more and more pandemics.
…do it. Do it do it do it.
Personally, I crave the strength and certainty of steel.
One day the crude biomass you call “the temple” will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you.
But I am already saved, for the Machine is immortal.
There is no truth in flesh, only betrayal. There is no strength in flesh, only weakness. There is no constancy in flesh, only decay. There is no certainty in flesh but death. --Credo Omnissiah
Do you want cybermen because Kit Pedler had a whole thing about this…
Oh boy, perpetually recovering from surgery at an advanced age!
I’ve seen The Strain, this ends in facist vampires and nukes
Our one saving grace in this post truth, post experts aren’t Johnny with a 4 chan account world, is that these dictators are so fucking stupid. Let them think they could have multiple organs from multiple “donors”. Sad part is we might lose a doctor or two when the bad hit outside the park, was dropped.
Traumatic surgery, sure.
But I assume the plan is to build replacement organs with your own dna, not transplants from donors.
Yeesh I didn’t even think about this, but that might explain this accusation. I guess choosing from a catalogue of harvested organs to select the closest match would also decrease the need for immuno suppressants. Experts: China is sequencing Uyghur DNA for organ harvesting
Kinda makes you wonder if that’s another reason they want increased genetic homogeneity and increased birthrates. Also makes me think of those catalogues of Ukrainian children Russia was offering for adoptions.
They’re dictators and wealthy psychopaths.
They don’t need people to donate, they’ll simply take what they want, like they’ve always done.
They’ll just live in a bubble. They practically already do, for their own safety, because almost every person on the planet wants them dead, most with good reason (some just want to take their place).
Well yeah, but even a psychopath’s fantasy would take the no-anti-rejection-meds route.
I’ve just had some -ectomies and ooooof that’s gonna do him in at his age. It went well when I was young and I still barely survived.
Biological or effective immortality would be the worst fucking technology for humans to discover right now.
if I can still jerk off I’m down
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I fully support Putin’s desire to live forever. Let’s encourage him and all other billionaires to start with a young brain transplant.
yeah this isn’t WH 40K. You can’t make a “Primaris Putin” and “continuous organ transplants” are only going to top you out at a few extra years, maybe, unless this fucker has somehow struck a deal with Nurgle or Khorne or some other Warp entity.
Now if his flesh starts bubbling and his intestines are suddenly on the outside of his body and he grows a maw on his shoulder? yeah then I’d start worrying.
Has anyone seen his shoulders lately? It’s been a long time since that shirtless pic of him riding a horse…
Ask that Rockefeller but you might need to go through hell to ask him in person
May the pursuit of immortality go as well for him as it did for Qin Shi Huang.
how did it go for that guy?
His tomb is so toxic archeologists can’t risk opening it. Turns out mercury is really cool but not the secret to immortality.
“Drink the blood of children and live forever!!!”
Actually rich people do this, it’s called Young Blood Transfusion.
Calm down Countess Bathory
In Russia, heart surgeon, #1!
Organ transplants can’t stop these
Just gotta convince 'em it 's the 1st step in a head transplant.
This.
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Joseph Guillotin and the Electric Shotguns would be an amazing band name
It won’t help Putin. Organs don’t help when you are falling out of a window
I hope he gets a brain transplant soon. He really needs one.
What a zinger!
“zinger” in Dutch means singer. That would be funny. If Putin would get a singer brain and he quits his dictatorship and wars and just goes to sing at parties instead.
I would like both of them to get brain transplants and see if they survive
Start with the brain
So in other words, “immortality” until the brain cancer is inoperable.
Seems deeply unlikely to work. The body only has so much capacity to heal from surgery, and that capacity diminishes with age, so eventually your surgeries would become too close together and you wouldn’t ever fully heal. At that point you might end up happier as a brain in a jar.
Death from unnatural causes aside, there are so many potentially fatal complications involved with an organ transplant, and even if you dodge all those bullets, there is the simple fact that we degenerate at a cellular level. None of us are on this Earth for long: rich, poor, president or janitor, death will not discriminate.
It’s really bad for the rich and powerful to forget that. Like partly for the people whose organs they’ll steal, but also just like for their psyches. Like, they’re clearly losing it.
Honestly even Rome (the republic) managed to be healthier about it. The element of the memento mori in the triumph, was just healthy. Sure you can have your great celebration honoring your conquest, but a slave will be following you reminding you that you too will die the entire time.
Yeah organ transplants are miraculous in the way medicine is miraculous not in the way religion is.
Medical miracles have limits and drawbacks. Organ transplants save lives and drastically improve quality of life, but it’s compared to a baseline of needing a new organ. Kidney recipients would much rather deal with anti rejection meds than dialysis. Heart recipients’ alternative is to die slowly.
Many rich people seem to think that shit like this will just replace their font of yang or something. They can’t accept that someday all that will remain of them is dust and consequences.
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At that point you might end up happier as a brain in a jar.
They are already deeply unhappy broken individuals. They have everything and can’t get any more unhappy.
One word: “Zippers”.
