• unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 days ago

    Its so funny how the US despises socialism when its best economic time period had full on government controlled industry production and pricing requirements.

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      the US despises socialism

      Took a good 40 years of far right propaganda, red scares, bigotry, and conspiracy mongering to get from FDR’s New Deal to Reagan Economics.

      American fascists poisoned the minds of their children and their grandchildren in order to reach this point.

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        American fascists have been used as tools by the rich to undo the gains of the new deal, and ultimately the gains of the Enlightenment to bring us back into some type of feudalism where owing money leads to Virtual slavery. And the entire system is fixed so you cannot avoid owing money to somebody.

      • Septimaeus@infosec.pub
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        I actually support government/public shareholding. It’s a natural path to UBI that maps effective taxation directly to shareholder value (prohibiting tax loopholes) and reflects public backing of commercial entities proportionately with public stake.

        Honestly it’s absurd that major stimulus initiatives proceed without requiring public equity in return for the funds. And that’s doubly true for corporations that would crater otherwise, since such a bailout would then result in a controlling stake. Public centralization via such an acquisition would be logical for any entity that’s “too big to fail.”

        I’m sure this administration’s motivations are corrupt and we should be wary, but the precedent itself is progressive IMHO.

    • shalafi@lemmy.world
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      You just gonna ignore that America stood by, didn’t enter the war, built the finest war machine Earth has ever seen, deployed it, WON, and suffered no loses at home?

      But hey, if you want a war economy, and think you can sustain it, Putin would like some tips.