• TipsyMcGee@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Mandatory reminder that plenty of people fought the nazis before the extermination camps.

      Plenty of people fought the nazis before they started their world war.

      Plenty of people fought the nazis without the support of ANY state and in opposition to the nazi state.

      Plenty of people fought the nazis before Hitler was even elected.

      Everyone that fought the nazis had in common that they didn’t get to choose to win. Many of them died on what seemed to be the losing side of that conflict. Their choice was to fight.

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    I applaud the sentiment, but uhm… I don’t think the comparison is helpful. Fighting external enemies is very different from fighting fascism from within. The “the state champions freedom” vs “the state is tyranny” kind of different.

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      That depends on what you think the comparison is and from what vantage point. If the comparison is current grass roots opposition to the government to the US and Allies fight against Hitler, then sure. The comparison is better made with the rest of the world’s multi decade effort to defeat the nazis and their allies.

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      Like… our main problem today is not guns and ships.

      The main problem is media, i.e. the propaganda system that keeps MAGAts happy to shoot themselves in the foot.

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        But you are the media in this world. Everybody here is generating media everyday. Traditional media was replaced with Facebook and Twitter and reddit. How many leftist removed themselves from there? Is it any surprise that the whole world seems like it’s using right wing talking points anymore. The left fucked themselves and most still don’t get what has happened here

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        The Conservative Propaganda Machine.

        Before this is over, it will have to dealt with as the National Security Threat it is.

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        keeps MAGAts everyone happy to shoot themselves in the foot.

        Imagine living through the last 30 years and honestly thinking you weren’t voting for your own decimating because you picked the blue fascist team.

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      Better if it shows a Confederate soldier?

      We will beat them again. It’s just a question of how much suffering until then, and how much we actually root out the ideology.

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          Reconstruction was never truly complete and allowed for a full range of “compromises”. The attitude and feelings remained the same.

          Quite sad that 175 years later and the arguments have changed very little.

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      They forfeited the right to be called my countrymen when they spat on the founding principles of the nation. They are foreign to the American ideal.

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        Yeah but they don’t have an entire world of countries using guns and bombs to tell them that.

        Fighting fascism is a whole lot easier when it decides to start a world War, every other instance they just continue on within their own borders.