Wounded Knee Occupation (1973) in February 27, 1973, a 71-day uprising began when approximately 200 Oglala Lakota and American Indian Movement (AIM) members seized the town of Wounded Knee, South Dakota, on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation to demand treaty negotiations. Paul Manhart S.J. and ten other residents of the area were apprehended at gunpoint and taken hostage.
The town was promptly surrounded by an army of U.S. personnel. John Sayer, author of “Ghost Dancing the Law: The Wounded Knee Trials”, wrote - “The equipment maintained by the military while in use during the siege included fifteen armored personnel carriers, clothing, rifles, grenade launchers, flares, and 133,000 rounds of ammunition, for a total cost, including the use of maintenance personnel from the National Guard of five states and pilot and planes for aerial photographs, of over half a million dollars.”
Although the Department of Justice (DoJ) prohibited media from the site, the occupation received support from the Congressional Black Caucus and prominent public figures, including Marlon Brando, Johnny Cash, Angela Davis, and Jane Fonda. Angela Davis was turned away by federal forces as an “undesirable person” when she attempted to enter Wounded Knee in March 1973.
Marlon Brando asked Sacheen Littlefeather, President of the National Native American Affirmative Image Committee, to speak at the 45th Academy Awards on his behalf. She appeared at the March 27th ceremony in traditional Apache clothing and stated that Brando declined the award due to “the treatment of American Indians today by the film industry…and on television and movie reruns and also with recent happenings at Wounded Knee”.
Tribal leaders called off the occupation after 71 days after the killing of Lawrence “Buddy” Lamont, a local Oglala man, by U.S. sniper fire. The terms of ending the occupation included a mandated meeting at Chief Fools Crow’s land to discuss reinstating the 1868 Treaty of Fort Laramie, which stated that the Black Hills of South Dakota belonged to the Sioux people.
In the 1980 Supreme Court case United States v. Sioux Nation of Indians, the Court held that the taking of property that was set aside for the use of the nation required just compensation, including interest. The Sioux have not accepted the compensation awarded to them by this case, valued at $1.3 billion as of 2011.
“If we accept the money, then we have no more of the treaty obligations that the federal government has with us for taking our land, for taking our gold, all our resources out of the Black Hills…we’re poor now, we’ll be poorer then when that happens.”
former Oglala Sioux Tribe President Theresa Two Bulls
I hope you nerds have a great next week and also first week of March. 
Remember no crackers
Been semi off hexbear the last couple days and i try to ignore the baftas because i hate the british but damn reading through this thread yall are going through it arguing with crackkkers, i didn’t realize the discourse was getting this big. love you all, go vegan, get a gun, and uplift black folks and their voices
“FBAs” don’t identify with the term “African American” specifically because they hate the “African” part of it.
I don’t identify with the term “African American” specifically because I hate the “American” part of it.
We are not the same.
FBAs confuse me so much, they hate themselves bad. I only don’t like calling myself African because I want to distinguish myself from Africans who recently came here (don’t want them to ask which country etc.). But I definitely know I’m African and my people are from somewhere over there and I’m darn proud of it.
Same for me.
I do identify as Afrikan above all else, but I probably wouldn’t refer to myself as such in any context where it could incur confusion.
This to say I love and support all my fellow poc comrades here in this thread and we deserve sm better than what our white “allies” could ever give us. I’m not planning on leaving this site (yet) but if I ever did I’d miss y’all only
I know I had a post ready to say goodbye but empoc is too good. We gotta stick together. If another burning isntreal flag convo started, I can’t leave you all hanging
Same here. This thread allows us to at least bond and let off steam.
Israel shouldn’t exist. ‘OH SO YOU THINK ALL JEWS SHOULD DIE HUH?’
But with the nword and tourettes apparently. Right wing trolls are actually incredible at what they do because they’ve got both leftists and libs marching to their tune
“so you’re saying disabled people shouldn’t exist in public” type beat
I think this is what a lot of the same users that are pushing back here are also missing. Their talking points are word for word exactly what rightwingers are saying. Telling black people to just “get over it” is extremely insensitive, at best, and racist, at worst.
If your talking points are the same as those of right wingers, if you’re saying the same things they are in this bullshit discourse, you are a fucking mark at best. Apparently it’s massive news to some users that righties will weaponize other minorities against black and brown people all the time.
Those tourrettes threads were bullshit and I regret reading them. Intersectionality is hard but does it have to be this hard?
I’m reminded how last thread some of us were talking about how race is the primary contradiction in our lives, the primary thing that oppresses us. Yes I’m disabled, yes I’m queer, but the racial violence of the system has been so much more deleterious to my life that those former two are mere blips for me. And that’s something that white people seem to really struggle with understanding when I tell them, because to them disability and queerness are the biggest oppressions they’ve experienced so they struggle to understand when I go “yeah those are small problems for me.” Kind of like how I used to have a partner with such bad chronic pain that to them, the chronic pain I suffered from on my worst days was a good day to them.
Also fuck that guy weaponizing Palestinians’ suffering to harass someone living in Africa, like that guy exemplified several harsh things I’ve seen about “white allies” all in one go.
Something that bothers the hell out of me is when white queer people expect me to be queer first and Black second.
I did that, and it led to immense self-hate and feeling like I belonged literally nowhere.
My queerness and androgynous presentation greatly impact how I move through the world, yes, but no matter what, anyone who looks at me will see that I am Black FIRST. Not only that, but unlike my queerness, the fact that I am Black is literally tied to an entire fucking history and lineage, and that shapes the conditions of how I and other Black people as a whole exist today.
There is not a single thing about me that is actually more important than my Blackness, honestly. People will say, “Why do you make everything about race?”. Well, it’s because the system did it first. That’s why, motherfucker.
No white person (or non-Black person, period, to be honest) I have dated has been able to make me feel seen in terms of race. Even the very person who would be in what is supposed to be the most intimate position they could ever possibly be in my life could not truly grasp this extremely important thing about me and how I exist in this world. Their intentions could’ve been the best, and they could’ve been the nicest people, but it made my relationships hurt and devoid of joy.
I am even very careful about having white people as just friends, let alone me refusing them as partners.
To this day, I think of the first partner I ever had and how she, as a Black woman, made that relationship feel like literally no other relationship of mine that came after that. She is actually the only Black person I have dated so far, and that is something I intend to change when I am far more stable.
White leftists are a fucking joke.
people will say, “Why do you make everything about race?”. Well, it’s because the system did it first. That’s why, motherfucker.
Well said and thank you for enunciating these things, reading your thoughts has been very helpful for me in coming to understand my own related experiences!
It says a lot that I expected this thread to be full of reverse woke bullshit with people browbeating poc for getting offended by the nword. I’m pleasantly surprised by the comments here
100% this. They think us saying how much worse the racism that affects us is compared to the queerphobia and ableism we also suffer from is us saying that queerphobia and ableism are irrelevant or that they don’t suffer when it’s not that at all. Until they get that through their heads we won’t get anywhere. The racism is embedded literally everywhere and no place is safe, not even our countries are safe when the empire can just bomb and invade us and the white dominated queer/disability spaces aren’t safe for poc either until white minorities unlearn all the racist bs they’ve been taught from birth, starting by acknowledging it.
They think us saying how much worse the racism that affects us is compared to the queerphobia and ableism we also suffer from is us saying that queerphobia and ableism are irrelevant or that they don’t suffer when it’s not that at all.
They have the absolute nerve to say this while ICE is kidnapping random people with skin color darker than printing paper and the US is about to bomb Iran.
Yeah. Oh no a white person got humiliated publicly meanwhile poc are getting put into camps. These are somehow the same in their minds.
I mean, it’s not surprising. I don’t want to be unpleasant about a site I frequent and like to visit but if you noticed, before the Pletti and Good murders, there very, very few threads on ICE while supposedly lib sites such as reddit were covered with footage of the violence being committed on migrants. Those were all over the front page of reddit while they were barely being discussed here
For the reddit thing, was that because reddit has a large and active Minneaoplis board while we don’t? (And I don’t know that we should have such hyperlocal boards given what a small userbase this is, it makes doxxing easier)
This was before the raids in Minnesota, there was frontpage coverage of what was happening across the country. Fucking diabolical images, such as those of migrant women being ripped apart from their children in elementary schools. Tens of thousands of upvotes on those posts on r/video or whatever, lots of discussion all while that barely got attention on here.
How cooked am I for saying this outside of this thread lmao@ the PS in that post: exactly. Racism is systemic. It’s possible to have racism without there being any racists because of it. This is like the most basic shit that systemic discrimination (whether it’s racism, sexism, transportation, whatever) = prejudice + power.
Yet it seems to go out the window for these crackers when they have to examine their own racial prejudices and biases. It’s pretty telling how unanimous this is among PoC and whites on this site they’ve taken the stance that they have, getting super defensive about it and strawmanning what’s actually being said.
Edit: autocorrect changed “transphobia” to “transportation” but I’m leaving it because it still makes sense.
Hell even non-leftist poc have a grasp on this. Whites as a whole are fragile to an extreme.
Chad comment
I almost made a comparison about how global south people are expected to cheer on western countries when they do basic shit like electing mamdani (who still hates homeless people, called AES countries dictatorships and is against globalizing the intifada) but if we don’t immediately press the socialism button when idk our leader gets kidnapped, or we get bombed or invaded etc we’re “traitors to the revolution” while they sit on their asses comfortable not doing shit to destroy the empire from inside lmao.
Expect to get a 3,000 page dissertation full of miscontextualized citations from preeminent Marxists to explain to you why you’re butthurt and why you stop being a ‘lib’
Get behind me! I’m on your side
I noticed they replied to you with that and had to say something. Crackers + victim mentality = best duo.
For context, the crakkker accused a poc of “thinking racial slurs are more uniquely harmful than other slurs” when they rightfully pointed out that had he said, for example, the t slur, people would be more outraged.
White hexbears: black people have the right to be upset!!!
black people: are upset
white hexbears: start a new discourse war to rival the “burning the israeli flag is antisemetic” discourse war
Fucking sick and tired. Never accommodate crackers or focus on their issues, I am begging all of you, it’ll never benefit you or any poc movement.
Looks like BlackRedGuard pissed off the site’s resident racism and ableism understanders https://hexbear.net/post/7763428?scrollToComments=false
Here we go again in less than 48 hours
Why are whiteys so pissed off? It’s not a lie that many slaveowners were disabled but ig historical facts are now ableist lmao Also did you get banned from the site as a whole? Since I see banned next to your name which would be fucking golden considering nyakobi or whoever that fucking cracker was only got demoted for SENDING DEATH THREATS TO SOMEONE WHO REQUESTED A BURNING EMOJI OF THE PISSRAEL FLAG AND CALLED THEM ANTISEMITES. But pissing off white people is now ban worthy? Fuck shit stupid fucking site man LoveYourself was right to leave I hate all white people.
Buckras continuously prove to me that there is no true unity between white leftists and leftists of color. There is a reason why my politics put anti-imperialism, Black struggles, and the Global South first, but it wasn’t always like this. I used to be much less educated and didn’t realize how indispensable this framework was for my understanding of politics as well as my well-being. White people are always gonna be white first, and my experience has told me that I’m always gonna be Black first, but believe me when I say that, in the past, I tried to be something else. It never worked, and it never will.
It fucking sucks. We will never be fully seen as equal, our humanity will never be fully acknowledged by these people will it? Yet we will always bear the burden of accommodating every single woe they might put upon us and be shamed and ostracized if our politics don’t focus on them. I wish all poc, but especially those on the left would wake up to this but tbh with “allies” like this? Its inevitable for anybody who is politically literate. Maybe generations in the future we’ll truly find equal footing once their children are no longer brainwashed from birth but not today. I’m just staying in this thread and the news ones from now on with few exceptions tbh fuck this site and fuck that it is somehow one of the least worse. Fuck crackers and fuck them weaponizing their marginalized identities (which still will never hold a candle to being poc).
To add: I block any cracker on here who reveals their ass and I’m not missing how many of them identify as queer lmao so much for unity!!!
CW: Racist Violence
I have seen how terrible these people are IRL, even. I have been physically assaulted by white queer people, including white queer women. This even happened to me at an earlier job I had, and I felt scared to tell anyone because I knew that no one would be on my side, especially since I was the only Black person there.
I’m so sorry this happened to you. I fell like unless it’s a white cis man they never take it seriously since for the white cis man they are victims of them as well and can just blame his gender.
white people here be like: who amongst us haven’t said a slur to a Black person, that’s right no hands so we should let slurs slide
The kind of people to say “It’s just lyrics, so what’s the big deal?” when singing along to a rap song with the n-word in it.
the thread was locked again
some guy said “black sympathy”
“Gusonos”, “Jehovah’s Witnesses”, and now “black sympathy” all upvoted and backed up by other users
Saving this in case he deletes again
I find it funny how many are saying “black people have every right to be upset” but when black users are upset, their first instinct is to shut them up and make incredible comments comparing black folks to gusanos or making a snide remark about “you calling me a cracKKKer means you want to call me another slur dont you?”
Like… are forgetting that Arab users just left this site because of a racism and liberal Zionist problem not that long ago? Have we seriously not learned anything from that?
The shit that happened with LoveYourself still pisses me the fuck off every time I think about it.
you calling me a crackkker means you want to call me another slur dont you?
Yeah: honkey, mayoskin, settler, nazi, nazbol, incel, limey, frog, britbong reject, kraut, hanz, baby thief, bootlicker…take your pick. I have a bunch of things referring to Whitey.
no-purpose flour
white leftists fall for tokenisation very quickly, we on the other hand have experience with it since the beginning of colonialism, we know that a person from our ethnicities color and culture can be a racist and a reactionary to their own people. but in their minds a peson with [marginalisaton factor ≥ 1] can’t be racist
Their entire conception of racism is upside down in the literal Hegelian sense, to them racism is simply a mindset that can be washed out with some good intentions, the right ideas. They don’t perceive it as a VERB, a set of actions and practices maintained through collective effort with a material basis in capitalism
They’re not upside-down Hegelians when it comes to transphobia, queerphobia, or misogyny, suddenly then they’re up to third-grade level and they know what a VERB is, but when race comes into the picture, best believe it’s back to kindergarten
@AlHouthi4President@lemmy.ml sorry to tag but couldn’t respond anymore due to least em_poc thread closing but just goes to show how they have no ends to their depravity and that no living being, no matter how innocent and defenseless, is safe. It’s like a few years back when a white Karen actually got attacked by libs not because she called the cops on an innocent black man but cause he caught her on camera rough handling her dog on a leash. I love animals, cats especially, and animal cruelty triggers me asf, but the fact they excuse cruelty to human (poc really) but draw the line at animal cruelty is wild.
but cause he caught her on camera rough handling her dog on a leash.
I don’t understand these types, either. And it always seems like it’s dog people. Carnists who revel in animal cruelty and misanthropy, unless it’s a dog. Then they get mad.
There were some fuckwads stealing Palestinian dogs and sending them to be re-homed in Europe through some charity or some shit a while back. God forbid you help Palestinian refugees or care about children. Nope! Gotta steal their dogs because they had the audacity to get in the way of your bullets.
Hope those fuckers live miserable lives. Maybe it’s the cat person in me but yeah it’s almost always dog people. I’m starting my veganism journey to the best of my abilities and not being in charge most times of what food is bought in this house but the cognitive dissonance will never not surprise me, chinese people are evil cause they eat dogs but somehow eating pigs, who are much smarter than dogs, is fine.
they have no ends to their depravity and that no living being, no matter how innocent and defenseless, is safe.
Yes. This is the point we must reiterate time and again to everyone who will listen: The israelis are a detestable people, bereft of humanity, their “state” without an ounce of legitimacy, their “nation” a fabricated myth, their “society” an irredeemable death cult across all political lines.
I knew the tourettes thread would piss me off. Why do white people think we don’t know how disability works just because we want accountability for a slur? We know it’s not intentional, it’s still harmful fo fuck sake, if it were any other word we wouldn’t even be having this conversation.
It reads as white people get so excited to give a gotcha to Black people
biggest example is Kanye West, him being disabled and saying he was didn’t stop anyone from calling him out on being anti semitic.
edit: not being an apologist for a black capitalist, but comparing the reaction.
Do you remember when Arabic language social media and Palestinian news outlets were defending Kanye in 2022 when the zionists came for him and then he publicly said he hated Palestine?
What a world.
a billionaire is a billionaire
I knew that thread would be a complete shitshow lmao
“B-b-b-but he can’t control himself saying the n-word. Quit being ableist!”
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Immediate L for attending a pretentious circlejerk called an awards ceremony instead of refusing to go like a normal person.
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Imagine being cramped into an enclosed space with not a single person wearing a goddamn mask. So much for caring about disabled people. I guess it’s only people with particular disabilities that are worth considering like people compulsively saying the n-word in front of Black people.
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If his compulsion was so bad that he cannot guarantee not saying slurs in front of marginalized people, then he should have the awareness to excuse himself whenever a person from a marginalized community is on stage. Nobody’s stopping him from timing his bathroom breaks whenever a racial minority or a visibly queer person or someone wearing a hijab is on stage.
I feel so bad for Lindo and Jordan. What should’ve been a highlight of their acting careers gets completely overshadowed by this racist bullshit.
Imagine if the dude had said “free Palestine” instead. Not a single shred of evidence of his existence would appear in the broadcast and he would’ve been barred from attending any future events for life.
Shows you how they don’t give a shit about his disability, either. They could have made accommodations for him where he can still participate without disrupting the event. I’m sure they have box seats they could have given him, but didn’t because those are reserved for only the wealthiest audience members.
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Normal people: yeah I feel bad for this guy and his disability but I can also acknowledge how saying a racial slur to two black people is harmful and should not be tolerated
white lefties on hexbear: OMG YOURE ABLEIST HOW DARE YOU THAT POOR WHITE MAN SIT DOWN YOU UPPITY MINORITIES ALSO YOU ONLY CALLED ME A CRACKER CAUSE YOU WANTED TO CALL ME AN ACTUAL SLUR LMAO OWNED
I probably should have deleted that thread, but I was genuinely curious what people’s takes on it where going to be, given I myself am neurodivergent and I thought there could be a good discussion about how to deal with racism and mental illness. Yeah it looks like that went nowhere. Personally I still feel like it was a shitty difficult situation, he should have apologized to those actors, imo. Anyway it was not my intent to inflame.
You’re not at fault here. I commented on the thread in hopes there would be some inkling understanding given to Black folk especially as they were the one’s aggrieved. I can have empathy to Jon for having the disability and I’m sure it’s not easy but we’re talking about 2 Black men having the N word said to them- knowing it’s unintentional but it still happened. They were clearly shocked.
I didn’t even say Jon was racist- I don’t know if anyone did- just there is no context where saying a slur can be accepted without acknowledging the danger behind it. It’s strange the slur is only said to Black folk-not saying it’s intentional still, but how are we as Black people supposed to take that?
Yeah I come back to he should have apologized about it. Given they know his condition, I’m sure they would have been understanding.
I was just banned from that community for pointing out in that thread some basic goddamn facts about intent =/= impact when it comes to hurling slurs at Black people and that comparing Black people injured by racial abuse to Gusanos (of all fuckin things) is some real messed up shit
lmao I really convinced myself they knew better and progress on this site was locked in, my mistake, this place is simply another minefield and it can blow up in your face at any time
Edit: I just realized the only two comments of mine a mod removed were the ones where I called someone a “cracker” at the end…lmao I think I just became the first user in the history of this site to be banned for using the word cracker
At least that’s partially the reason for my ban considering my other comments challenging the bullshit in that thread weren’t touched
You were right on the money about this cracKKKer-infested site not being safe for POC and they instead went full
just to prove you right ten times overApparently they’re going round two on the frontpage, screaming at Black leftists from Twitter, I guess they think the full extent of their callousness wasn’t made obvious in the last thread
Somehow the comment comparing black people having a legitimate gripe to gusanos is still up while the original comment they were replying to was deleted for ableism even though it was mostly critiquing how the situation was handled and specifically said that disability shouldn’t be used to shield critique of racism. I’m almost 100% sure that the same has been said about using disability as a shield for misogyny and queerphobia on here and those past comments were never moderated like that.
I’m almost 100% sure that the same has been said about using disability as a shield for misogyny and queerphobia on here and those past comments were never moderated like that.
This is why I stopped putting energy into caring about the cries of white women and white queer people. I know damn well that they would never give Black people the same energy. Obviously, I’m not saying any of their struggles on the basis of gender and/or sexuality are warranted, but it baffles me how selfish and unempathetic they can be. White women treat Black women like shit and white queer people treat Black queer people like shit, only to expect everyone to have a pity party over their particular struggles, and guess what? In so-called “leftist” spaces, they DO always get said pity parties. This could especially be said about white women because performative cishet male leftists love to pretend to give a fuck about feminism because they hope to gain something from it. I always remind myself that the same white women who (rightfully) get annoyed at deflections like “not all men” are just as willing to say “not all white women” when a Black woman calls out their bullshit, and that reminder makes it easy for me to focus on shit that actually pertains to my people and anti-imperialist struggles. I have limited energy, so that energy is gonna be Black energy.
I saw that in the modlogs! Absolutely unacceptable.
“Silly minority, it’s abelist to feel racism by this”
And the obnoxious condescension just dripping off that mod “it’s been explained to you” as if the fact the man has Tourettes somehow negates the fact he hurled racist abuse at Black people that night, a literal inability to tell the difference between intent and impact, genuine harm (suffered by the cast of Sinners) and mere embarrassment (Davidson) that’s negated through white sympathy
But apparently I’m the one who needs to be explained to, fuckin clowns
Where was the thread?
White leftists are a lost cause.
All this proves to me is that cracKKKers can NEVER be meaningful allies to POC
I feel like that point was missed entirely. A lot of the other inappropriate moments that he’s had that were described in that thread were directed at individuals (him saying fuck the queen to the queen for example), but a slur carries a greater weight because it’s no just an insult hurled at an individual, its an entire group of people based on the color of their skin with historical ties to their societal oppression.
Like why would I care he said fuck you to the queen? I’m not the queen, no one is. I care about the slur. I don’t care if he meant it or not-and that’s not even important, I care about the impact.
White people see us wanting an apology as an apology for being disabled and not an apology for the slur meaning in their heads they think we’re in this post racial world where slurs don’t matter anymore.
if my body had spasms where I unpredictably punch people, even if I informed about it you it’d still hurt you. Racial slurs aren’t different
I remember the story of the Black disabled child who had his nintendo switch taken away by a teacher then started to punch her. Weren’t they thinking about putting him to trial as an adult?(could be wrong)
He could help it either and they still demanded punishment.
White leftists cannot be redeemed…
Living off of
sandwiches is alright, but once I actually manage to get started with this CNA shit, something I’ll try to do is get myself a treat for once.Excepted going into waste wars it just being a text saying recycling doesn’t work pleased to find out it has strong anti colonial themes, guess that was my own blindspot but it’s a good read and something I admit never considered the aspect of till now. I know environmental racism was a thing but even my first world brain was mostly just thinking of it in terms of the heart of the empire. As one part of the book goes, they take the riches of the land and sell them back electronic waste to recycle for the chance to make something
Me after seeing Vegeta’s account goneIf this is a permanent leave, you will definitely be missed, bud
Oh goddammit that’s like the 12th. PoC to delete their account because Whitey wants to start a struggle session since I’ve been on Hexbear.
no, vegeta got some of their accounts hacked, they posted this on matrix
Gotta deactivate for now because too many of my accounts being hacked
Gotta deactivate for now because too many of my accounts being hacked
they’re trying to take down the prince
I saw their post deleted too, was it their own doing ?
I believe so!
deleted by user
Today (24th) is my birthday, i will probaly mostly play minecraft in the hexbear den server but i think i will eat a millhojas cake (not vegan)
Happy birthday, that cake looks delicious
Happy birthday 🎉
happy birthday comrade
1 kilo de manjar lol
Oh hey, happy birthday! 100 years to you.
Enjoy your cake
Edit: sorry i didn’t see this was the empoc I thought it was the general. My bad (hbd tho). I shall leave now
Happy birthday
