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    You could search and replace a few words in Anne Frank’s Diary and make it happen in Minneapolis today.

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    “In the United States of America”.

    The birthplace of freedom and democracy. The beacon of light and justice in the world. So strange that it is happening over there. Who could have seen this coming?

    One could expect this to happen anywhere, but in the United States of America? No way.

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      I really prefer when people write “/s” for sarcasm. With Poe’s Law and all it is virtually impossible to distinguish sarcasm on the written internet.

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      Even the American left has had their national exceptionalism so deeply ingrained that they cant stop screaming “We’re number 1!” while they are drowning.

      Thats why they were the perfect mark. The idea that it could happen to them was so preposterous.

    • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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      I was listening to an interview of a progressive in my country. And based from his observation, he mentioned many politicians just don’t care. Like, really don’t care.

      There is a reason as to why politics is said to be where psychopaths coverge, because they want positions of power for power’s sake. So that explains why many politicians really don’t care.

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        When you have majority of funding through corporations, why will the politicians care about people? If people start lobbying and competing for money, the politicians will start caring

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          Legal bribery aka lobbying needs to be taken out of politics. Money shouldn’t be involved but it is unfortunately. Even the most ‘sacred’ position is now head by a literal businessman

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      They don’t care, they’ll just say whomever they deported were MS13 members engaging in “violent pedophilia”.

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      They’re not, they’re delivering groceries to their neighbors??? Are we reading the same thing???

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          Well yeah. Who else could you possibly be talking about? Nobody is ruining their own country, that screenshot is about people in a warzone being invaded, not people who are intentionally harming themselves.

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              You blame victims of genocide for their own oppression, and now you’re accusing me of being a bot. This is projection, as you have no humanity yourself.

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                They were talking about ICE destroying their own country you bumbling fool.

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                  ICE doesn’t have a city, they are not people but a legal entity. The individual people who joined ICE are traitors and are thus not American. ICE cannot destroy “their own city.” That doesn’t make any sense.

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    What the actual fuck. This is straight from Anne Frank’s diary, just change their coats.

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    This is what your grandparents fought and died for to prevent from ever happening again.

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      Too bad our government was just like, we’ll pardon your war crimes and forget you’re a Nazi if you’re good at science and can help us do science things better than other countries!

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        Pretty much everyone has done this historically, fuck even Rome did it. Smart people are often times worth their weight in gold especially if they made life annoying for you and your army, so they basically fall into the category of war loot.

        Also it’s usually a either you join us or we kill you situation.

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          The history of denazifying Germany shows that the Allies were torn on this.

          To summerize:

          Russia “Okay, let’s kill all the Germans.”
          Britain “Oh, but then we’re no better than them. We must make due process for all the Nazis.”
          USA “Yeah, I don’t think either of you understand the scale of this.”

          And the Americans was right. A due process would have taken centuries, and nobody wanted to pay for it.

          So that’s why the Nuremberg trials only reached the top of the iceberg and millions of Nazis got away with no other punishment than memories of shame.

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            Lmfao what ? First of all it’s not Russia, it’s the Soviet Union, whichh is an important discussion, and secondly they didn’t want to kill all germans, but make sure denazification was fully done, with no risk of having a single nazi left in power.

            You’re saying it as if they made an outlandish proposal and it was rejected by the others; in reality they had control of East Germany and had no need for anyone’s approval in their denazification efforts, which was successful.

            Meanwhile nazis that werent notorious enough or part of the holocaust were basically put back in power in West Germany.

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              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification

              Soviet zone: From the beginning, denazification in the Soviet zone was considered a critical element of the transformation into a socialist society and was quickly and effectively implemented. Members of the Nazi Party and its organizations were often brutally beaten before being arrested and interned. The NKVD was directly in charge of this process and oversaw the camps. In 1948, the camps were placed under the same administration as the gulag in the Soviet government. According to official records, 122,600 people were interned; 34,700 of those interned in this process were considered to be Soviet citizens, with the rest being German

              Let’s math: 122600-34700= 87900 Germans.

              Former Nazi officials quickly realized that they would face fewer obstacles and investigations in the zones controlled by the Western Allies. Many of them saw a chance to defect to the West on the pretext of anti-communism. Conditions in the internment camps were terrible, and between 42,000 and 80,000 prisoners died.

              Sure they never directly stated that they deliberately wanted to kill all the Nazi, but the result is still that they did kill a good chunk of them (between 50-90%) in the camps.

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                Well yeah, killing the Nazis is effective denazification, I don’t object to that in any measure.

                You didn’t say “kill all the Nazis” though, you said “kill all the Germans”

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            We actually kind of have the alternative to that as well. In Iraq the US took all members of the Baath party of Hussein. It was very clearly a horrible organization, which commited genocide and many other crimes, but doing so removed all sorts of people from power, which had usefull skills and kind of needed to be party members. For example when you built roads, you really need engineers in the government to check if that road is actually going to be built correctly. Even worse they through the secret service and military members into the same prison as islamic terrorists. So when the US left Iraq, those terrorists got access to people with a very particular set of skills.

            Really the only way to go about it, is to built up the alternative in the back, trial the worsed cases and keep the Nazis or whatever other evil group from gaining power.

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              That literally is what we did and it didnt work. Kill them. So they can never do it again. The Soviets were right.

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                Iraq did not collapse due to the Baath party members taking over. It collapsed due too few competent people in positions of power. That opened up the prisons and allowed the Baath party members to take over. Killing them would not have stopped Iraq from collapsing, when the US left.

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                  For whatever reason I thought you were talking about ww2 and the nazis. I must have not been paying enough attention scrolling the chain

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      It was pretty much still happening in the South while those grandparents were busy fighting it elsewhere. And it continued to happen in the US south for decades after WWII.