In remarks at a judicial conference, Roberts bemoaned what he characterized as the American public’s misconceptions about the Supreme Court.

Chief Justice John Roberts on Wednesday defended the Supreme Court from what he believes are misconceptions held by the American people that he and his colleagues are “political actors” who are making decisions based on policy, not law.

Roberts is a member of the court’s 6-3 conservative majority, which has moved federal law to the right on a number of weighty issues in recent years, such as abortion and gun rights.

The court has also in several cases weakened the landmark Voting Rights Act of 1965, including in a ruling last week that led to outrage and disappointment on the left.

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    Oh fuck all the way off you political hack. You’re playing for a very specific team, and that team is not us.

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    Given everything they have done, why pretend anymore? I honestly don’t know who they are trying to impress.

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      Roberts is fascinating, he really truly believes he can escape with an intact legacy while simultaneously overseeing the final destruction of the functional democracy that was the US. It kind of speaks to the mentality deep down, they don’t really understand the finality and monumentality of their actions, and where it’s going to lead us. But his legacy is secure: one of the most destructive men who was ever a part of our Republic.

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      Let’s also remember the deciding vote on handing the 2000 election to the devil, which lost, was the now lionized Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Notorious indeed. You can draw a straight line from their successful steal of 2000 to 2020 and now.

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      Fun fact: no member of the Supreme Court was willing to sign their name to the Bush v. Gore decision. It was instead issued per curiam, “by the court” itself.

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    The Republican justices thought December was too close to the election to do anything about Texas’s gerrymandering that favored white poeple/Republicans, but somehow last week wasn’t too close to the election to shoot down Louisiana’s changes that boosted minorities. That’s pretty clearly policy at work, not the law.

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    Undoing decades of settled law to strip rights from women, minorities, and everyone else. You’re damn right we view you as political. You’re a disgrace to the law and should be impeached yesterday.

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      “Settled law” is such a cop out. If there is any ambiguity, any question, the law should be rewritten. Anything “decided” can be “undecided”, why take the chance?

      Of course they’re political, but the legislative should be drafting legislation at a quality that the SC only CAN touch it very lightly.

      The whole process is broken, I guess is my point, and SC latitude is a symptom of shitty and lazy legislators.

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        That’s bullshit, there’s always room for interpretation of any law. Especially when laws start overlapping and someone has to decide which law takes precedence.

        The real failure of the US political system is that voters that were stupid enough to believe that uncompromising is the same as strength. Once bipartisanship collapsed, the only way to get anything done was through the courts because as soon as any law passed someone somewhere sued to stop it. The courts became political because all laws passed through them.

        This happened because Republicans realized their actual policies are unpopular and don’t work, so they have specifically been stacking courts with conservative judges for decades so an unelected cabal of rich assholes get to decide all the laws in the country.

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          I hear you.

          There is always leeway. Any language is imprecise, it’s the nature of the human condition. We agree on that.

          Where we disagree seems to be what to do about it.

          I don’t mean to strawman you here, so please correct me… but it seems like you’re saying “since legislators certainly will produce inexact wording in thier legislation that is open to interpretation… we just need to live with that and throw ourselves at the mercy of an unelected body with lifetime appointments. The problem is the lifetime appointees aren’t benevolent

          I’M saying “since legislators certainly will produce inexact wording in thier legislation that is open to interpretation… it is thier continually duty to explicitly update, amend, and otherwise refine the law so that it most explicitly describes the intention of the elected legislative branch. The problem is they have the power to ammend the legislation but do not execute a core function of thier responsibility

          Like, make those fuckers work. Writing the law is thier job. If people can’t agree on what it means, make them re-write it until they do. Your PhD supervisor will send back your paper before publication covered in red ink before it gets submitted to a journal. In what world should a legislator not be held to the same standard?

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    No one is accusing them of being political actors. That’s not how the court system works. The fact that he claims that is an effort to play everyone for fools.

    They are however partisan hacks.

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      They are however partisan hacks.

      It’s worse than that, they’re actively corrupt. Robert’s or Alito’s Judicial philosophy is as irrelevant as Thomas’ racial identity; they believe in getting paid.

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    How fucking patronising.

    The most political Supreme Court justice is trying to claim he’s not? He can pound his shadow docket up his ass sideways.

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    His name will forever represent the most corrupt SCOTUS in history, and he’s trying to mitigate that despicable legacy.

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          To put things in perspective.

          About 40% of the then population of the American colonies were Patriots and fought against the British in the revolutionary war. The war itself functioned like a civil war.

          Roughly 40% of the population of the current United States supports Trump, not perfectly unwavering support but pretty staunch nonetheless. The remaining 60% are too busy thinking that their problems are the ones that need to be addressed first and a staggering number of those people are perfectly willing to throw away decent compromise simply because they weren’t perfectly satiated.

          All of this to say: Trump is the tip of the iceberg.

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            Roughly 40% of the population of the current United States supports Trump, not perfectly unwavering support but pretty staunch nonetheless. The remaining 60% are too busy thinking that their problems are the ones that need to be addressed first and a staggering number of those people are perfectly willing to throw away decent compromise simply because they weren’t perfectly satiated.

            I’m curious where you get your information from that you speak so confidently

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                  That I feel, deep in my bones.

                  To put it simply, I don’t have exact numbers on who is willing to let perfect be the enemy of good on the left. I just know enough of them exist to render the rest’s votes ineffective — we know this because plenty of poll information has been collected that points to ‘Kamala lost because of her stance on Israel’. As if the alternative has been better.

                  The left in the U.S. seems to be filled with people who know what the right thing to do is, but can’t separate that from what needs to be done right now. While I recognize that the heart bleeds for people in Palestine, or Gaza, or any victim of Israel’s (really any genocide) — not voting for Kamala might as well be considered a vote for what’s happening in Iran right now. I understand being caught in a two party system isn’t ideal either, but pumping the breaks on fascism would have been a much more effective barrier against Israel than what’s happening today. I’m inclined to believe anything under Kamala would be better than Trump, even if it wasn’t necessarily ‘getting better’.

                  For context, I worked under Kamala when she was the AG for California’s DoJ. The blatant corruption happening under her nose was eye opening, it really turned me against her as a result. I still fucking voted for her.

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    Just a reminder that between his Ivy League connections, his Reagan/Bush services, and Chief Justice Rehnquist’s untimely demise, Mr. Non-Political-Actor here went from mere well-placed attorney to Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States in less than five years, mostly by way of his work on Bush v. Gore in 2000.

    Not a political actor, lol.

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    Can someone please remind me who sold out the country to corporate interests and allowed super PACs to exist? Oh yeah, thank Chief Justice Roberts. Go fuck yourself.

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    Roberts belief that he can salvage the courts reputation is deeply pathetic. He wiped his ass with the law and made the supremes courts corruption even more brazen.

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    Spare us your denial asshole. We are knee deep in the bullshit you have created already.