• CerebralHawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    To deny treatment, they should be legally required to return all premiums.

    They shouldn’t be allowed to deny treatment. There’s also the issue of treatment costs.

    Insurance companies are also why marriage rights was and is a debate. They wanted to accept premiums they should have never been accepting for decades and then deny benefits.

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      I agree, firstly, but honestly, they should be abolished, nationalized, and all the money in the coffers going to help support the new single payer system in the interim during the period where the new taxes are still in the process of being collected.

      I don’t think the CEO’s should be jailed, though, as some suggest. Just leave em to walk the streets, and hopefully they don’t run in Mario or his brother…

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      That’s a terrible idea. An insurance company cannot be allowed to back out of any policy they’ll have to pay out on.

      That’s a crooked casino that cancels every bet they lose.

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      Yeah, some people are paying a thousand or more per month, only to get denied when they need treatment. What the fuck is that?

      If they’re retired for 20 or 30 years, that’s at least $200,000 to $300,000 that they’re paying into a total scam over the course of their retirement.

      They’re going to need that money to pay for the treatment that the insurance companies are going to deny their claims for.

      Health insurance is a scam, and insurance companies are robbers and crooks.

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        $1000 a month would be cheap.

        My share of premiums for my family plan is $20k/year. My employer is a non-profit and very transparent about expenses. They pay an additional $30k.

        That’s before deductible. Also not counting Medicare tax.

        That means 50k/yr. I’m fairly well paid. That’s nearly a fifth of my total compensation package, and almost than the median adult income in my town. Just in premiums.

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    They don’t make $9 billion by just treating everyone.

    The US shouldn’t be allowed to call itself a “first world country” when it’s letting its people die worse than countries of the so called “third world”.

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      Yeah, I’ve been to Vietnam a couple times and my girlfriend at the time who was from there needed medical treatment.

      I was panicking like “How can we afford that? You don’t have insurance?” She looked at me like I was crazy. She walked in, got treated, picked up a prescription, and the whole thing cost less than $5…

      That was probably the beginning of my long walk towards socialism…

      It’s funny cause maybe a year prior to that, we went camping on the beach and I grilled some hamburgers over charcoal. She texted a picture home saying “Mom, I love capitalism!”

      I didn’t even realize she was dunking on me. At the time I felt like I had basically won the cold war… 🙄

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          No, I was a total dunce back then. Honestly I don’t know why she stayed with me as long as she did, but I’m grateful to her for opening my eyes even though I didn’t truly wake up until long after we had broken up. She planted those seeds though.

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    Like a post I saw the other day put it. “The process is the punishment” regardless of final outcome.