The problem with the enhanced games is that people who would compete in stuff that’s basically labelled “for cheater’s by cheaters sponsored by crypto” are not generally the sort of people who would otherwise be winning the olympics. They’re more likely to be people who flunked out of the chance to win the “proper” games.
Hunter Armstrong is not one of those, he’s a world record holding olympic athlete competing against a retired swimmer (Shane Ryan) and an amateur college athlete (Sohib Khaled). The only one who is even in his category of swimmer there is Ivanov.
Pretty much my initial thoughts without looking into it. Anybody who’s competed at the top level globally can show up to a lower level competition and dominate, this is more of a reflection of how little legitimacy the enhanced games have that they’re not attracting global level talent.
I’d also think it’s because not a lot of top performers would very obviously put their lives and bodies at risk for a chance to win a gimmick Olympics.
The people performing at the top of their game are already destroying their bodies, why would they need to go further.
Swimmer lore
Why didn’t someone graft a rocket engine to themself?
Bro simply did not save anything for the swim back
Shout out to the doctor who knew all along he wasn’t doped from the way he holds his dick but didn’t say anything cause he’s not a scab.
Ned? Ned Ryerson??
Holy shit they actually went through with those games? I thought no one would fund it. But we do have sports betting on war, so.
I hate how PEDs are being normalised
Apparently people have a hard time understanding that PEDs don’t make people world class athletes.
They only give world class athletes slight edges in competitions where that’s all that’s needed to win.
Everyone else is just fucking up their bodies for results they can get naturally.
Everyone else is just fucking up their bodies for results they can get naturally.
nah you can look at pre-anabolic steroid bodybuilders and then at some of these dopers who die in their 20s and the dopers are getting proportions that are not possible or healthy.
omg that gives me an idea for a brilliant new innovation that will raise the GDP: WAR BETTING on SPORTS!
Kind of lame you have doping and still don’t break records of non-dopers, if I want a real enhanced sports I would like to see cyborg genetic freaks pumped full of chemicals doing stuffs that normal humans cannot achieve.
There was one record broken in the men’s 50m freestyle I think
I thought no one would fund it.
Guy completely unfamiliar with the difference between US baseball and the US olympic baseball team
I hope they keep doing this and also keep losing to people who actually train to the peak
I wanted to see roided out monstrosities do superhuman feats, i didn’t want to see disciplined genetic abnormalities do superhuman feats
care ye not for the dreams of those who lack physicality, lack discipline, and yet love drugs and destroying their bodies
I don’t know. While I do think it’s a little funny to have the people who openly admit to “cheating” lose, we’re sort of forgetting that there are different ways to have an edge here. Like if you’re a world record holding olympic athlete you’re not competing on the same terms as an amateur college athlete, your training regiments can’t be the same, and the resources available to you are not the same.
Olympic athletes don’t have more resources than the average Person tbf. They work normal jobs and finance themselves.
Sure, there is a realistic discussion about “who actually has the resources to compete” but this event ain’t that. These drugs aren’t cheap and just doing them isn’t enough, you still need access to equipment or places to practice or coaches or whatever.
Barry Bonds still had to swing a narrow piece of wood at 90mph balls to break home run records.
Okay but one of the people he beat is literally a college athlete. Sure some of the retirees and semi pros have a good chance of training with good facilities, but there’s a reason they’re semi pros or retired.
I’m not even asking you to have sympathy with anyone here, but “Record holding olympic athlete beats retiree and college athlete” isn’t really a headline is the thing.
Sure, but that’s not the headline. The headline is “record holding Olympic athlete doesn’t do drugs, wins a competition run by someone who thinks doing drugs means you can beat a record holding Olympic athlete”
To be fair these are all probably people at their peak. If I trained to my peak it woudl not be able to compete at the olímpical level. Life is just not fair like that
It is interesting though to see that even steroids don’t bridge the gap. Turns out all those people who told me that they don’t actually make you super buff they just help you do more training were right all along.
It’s people who train to their peak, and are better at hiding their particular edge, because the methods of cheating always outstrip the methods of testing. Not that Hunter is nessecerily cheating, but like, we won’t know for another 10 years.
Who wrote this shit Brandon Sanderson?
I’ve only read the books he wrote to finish out WoT after Robert Jordan died and they were just incredibly mid. Someone here said he was the McDonalds of fantasy and that sounds about right.
Mormonism keeps most of its adults in a permanent juvenile state, which bleeds into every word of his writing. He’s incapable of writing characters that behave like adults because he himself doesn’t know how to do it
Random sidenote, what’s wild is this is true, but also a whole bunch of em get sent to other countries to recruit door to door, daily, for a full year, and so.
You get this very strange mix of person, pretty often, who is both way more sheltered and ignorant than your average American (let that sink in) - but who also has way, way more direct experience with other cultures (well, generally precisely one other culture, per individual) than your average American.
Makes for interesting conversations lol. The ones I’ve met came away with some pretty sincere love for the place they went, and real sympathy and understanding for the people there, a lot of times. And then, in the same conversation, are genuinely confused and asking me “why don’t the homeless people here simply get a job and an apartment?”. And they mean it with all the sweet naive sincerity of frickin Bambi lol.
So then that sounds like a promising opening but proceeds to go exactly (amazingly) nowhere. Like their understanding can’t develop, here. They’re locked into something pretty hard.
Had this experience enough times to wanna share lol, it’s the strangest thing.
I liked Elantris at the time, I thought it was a neat little puzzle story. But then they were all the same after that, overconstructed magic systems used as a fill-in-the-blank kinda plot device where the main character just needs to read the instruction manual aaaaall the way to the end where the cheatcode is written in the credits pages.
Very dull stuff. Magic doesn’t solve problems, people solve problems.
cryptofans be like: I’m not a Sanderson fan but why don’t you like him?
And then whatever answer you give you get hounded with passive aggressive replies.
Do we know that he is truly clean? Many claim natty, but dope, they just know how to time their cycles or use masking agents to pass the tests. Tests are always playing catch up. Remember Lance Armstrong was the most tested athlete and he passed all the tests, but he had to eventually confess.
he openly declared from the start he planned to not be drugged to the gills and was apparently tested almost a dozen times to prove it by the USADA https://swimswam.com/olympic-gold-medalist-hunter-armstrong-joining-enhanced-games-plans-to-compete-clean/ https://xcancel.com/enhanced_games/status/2058757503404716534
Maybe he isn’t, but there wouldn’t be a point; if everyone else is doping, it wouldn’t be cheating for him to do so. I’m not saying he isn’t, just that there wouldn’t be a point to hiding it.
Are… Are they testing them to check they’re not enhanced at the enhanced games?
Hiding it in this case seems to be just saying you’re not doping?
There’s a big financial/career motive here. Race winners were paid something like $250K, and if you broke a clean world record you got a $1 million bonus.
You dope to win the money. You can win because the best athletes are largely still competing in tested games. You say you’re clean so you can potentially get back in to competitions with testing and make more money.
It is funny to hide it
I still maintain the actually interesting “enhanced games” would’ve been to see who could cheat the best. Not dope, cheat. Who can fix the games? Who’s the best blackmailers, bribers and riggers? Who’s the most skullduggerous? I wanna see two teams where every player is trying to throw the game in a very specific fashion and then the judges punish them for weird stuff.
There might have to be a second layer of judges, and if you mess with them you get put in a hole.That’s called normal professional sports
I want a version where it’s allowed and assumed as part of the game.
But then it’s not cheating
That’s just professional sports
Somebody has already made that joke.
If you ain’t cheatin you ain’t trying.
…the what games?
