• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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    17 hours ago

    Keep that going, please?

    Take Texas. Then take Florida. Then take Ohio. (That last once can either flip or secede, I don’t care).

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      13 hours ago

      First we need to stop chasing cishetero white men out of progressive politics. There are some districts where they’re the only ones who stand a chance, unfortunately. We don’t have to like it for it to be true.

      • muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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        11 hours ago

        Full stop: no one is chasing out cishetero men. We need them to make more gaybies.

        What’s happening is conservatives are convincing voters they are the only ones that accept them. That needs to stop. Fuck, let’s just add a grey strip to the pride flag.

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          10 hours ago

          Conservatives wouldn’t be able to convince them of that if there wasn’t a part of it that rings true with their personal experience.

          And I can tell you that as a cishet white guy I’ve found it extremely difficult to participate in progressive spaces. It often feels like I’m not welcome at all, or that I’m only welcome as long as I keep my mouth shut. I’ve felt like I was being used as a punching bag by people who didn’t have anywhere else to direct their misplaced rage, and no one has ever cared that I experience problems too. If I even so much as mention a problem that I face or the fact that I face problems, I get absolutely trashed for it.

          Pretending no one is chasing cishetero white men out of progressive spaces is not going to solve the issue. We’re not welcome on women’s spaces. We’re not welcome in BIPOC spaces. We’re not welcome in queer spaces. What’s left? Cause I guarantee you if someone tried starting a progressive space specifically for cishetero white men, then everyone would be furious.

          And even if there were spaces that encompassed all identities under a common progressive umbrella, cishetero white men would still be the red-headed step child of those spaces.

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              19 minutes ago

              Sure, just dismiss the personal experience that I’m relating to you just because you don’t believe it. I’m sure that’s just just prejudice talking. Oh wait.

              Propaganda is a part of it, yes, but if it didn’t have a kernel of truth that people felt then it could never take root. It takes advantage of a critical exploit, which is the disillusionment and rejection that many of these people already face.

      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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        9 hours ago

        they seem quite uncommon, most of them are conservative are pretty center right like newsome, and biden, part of it likely has to due with mysogyny and status quo of men over women in politics.