Due to a power issue, it looks like the lander may now no longer have sufficient fuel to make a controlled landing on the moon. This was the lander that was set to carry human remains to the moon despite objections from the Navajo nation. Hopefully, this discourages any future attempts at such a stunt, since instead of a permanent mausoleum your ashes may instead be stranded in orbit or scattered amongst the moon dust if the thing crashes.

  • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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    personally i think its disgusting that they arent respecting a random tribe’s claim to 14.6 million square miles of land theyve never touched

    • JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.netOP
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      The moon belongs to everyone; we should resist those who want to turn the cosmos into the playground of the rich. There is no scientific or public value in erecting such a mausoleum with public funds just because a few (presently dead) billionaires thought it would be neat. The fact they could afford to partially fund such a mission just goes to show that they had far too much money to spend in a productive or even recreational fashion: that money should have been expropriated and NASA or any other space program shouldn’t need to be servicing such macabre fantasies.

      Of course, many cultures across the world have had and continue to have a reverence for the moon along with the earth itself, and turning it into a graveyard for the fanciful rich should be generally offensive.

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        we should resist those who want to turn the cosmos into the playground of the rich.

        we should bar people from making use of the moon, in the spirit of it belonging to everyone

        Of course, many cultures across the world have had and continue to have a reverence for the moon along with the earth itself, and turning it into a graveyard for the fanciful rich should be generally offensive.

        we should bar people from making use of the moon, in the spirit of it belonging to everyone

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          making use

          weasel language. Of course we should allow scientific exploration of the moon. We should not allow private commodification of the moon. You conflate the two like a weasel. There is no utility in allowing rich creeps to dump their corpses on the moon, in fact it just interferes with scientific endeavors.

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            You conflate the two like a weasel

            dehumanising language is cringe

            the difference is also irelevant when the argument is that “the moon belongs to everyone”

            There is no utility in allowing rich creeps to dump their corpses on the moon

            i dont care, it does not infringe on anyone elses rights to moon

            in fact it just interferes with scientific endeavors

            im sure scientists will be devastated when they find out they can only get untouched samples of the moon from the other 14 and a half million square miles of moon in the future

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              the difference is also irelevant when the argument is that “the moon belongs to everyone”

              Only if your starting assumption is that commons must be privatized and looted, which is a capitalist assumption but one that doesn’t necessarily make any sense. It’s just something you are asserting. Commodification by private entities should not be allowed on public land, think of it like a protected national park. You don’t just get to mine and make theme parks on it because it’s “public”. Likewise, rich fucks don’t just get to treat it as their playground. If they have enough money to waste on polluting and wasting resources then their money should be taxed away from them and put to better uses

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                Only if your starting assumption is that commons must be privatized and looted

                something about conflating ‘tossing human dust there’ with ‘privatizing and looting’

                It’s just something you are asserting

                i never asserted anything be privatized or looted, i asserted that tossing human dust on it doesnt matter

                think of it like a protected national park

                great example, since spreading ashes on a national park is in fact legal, generally

                You don’t just get to mine and make theme parks on it because it’s “public”

                something about conflating ‘tossing human dust there’ with ‘mine and make themeparks’

                Likewise, rich fucks don’t just get to treat it as their playground

                insofar as it does not infringe on the moon belonging to everyone else, yes they do

                If they have enough money to waste on polluting and wasting resources then their money should be taxed away from them and put to better uses

                no argument here

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                  no argument here

                  Then why are you defending this absurd project? You aren’t even doing liberal ideology coherently if you (correctly) say that their money should probably just be taken from them if this is what they are spending it on. So what, you acknowledge that this is a socially worthless endeavor such that it would be more pro-social to seize a portion of their assets, and in fact that them trying to do this should be considered a good pretext for such a seizure, and yet simultaneously that the endeavor should but considered sacrosanct?

                  I am begging you to read any [leftist] critiques of liberal political theory. Literally any. This contains an offhand example that is nonetheless very solid.

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                    Then why are you defending this absurd project?

                    i think that the rich shouldnt have the sort of money to pull this kind of shit, and i think that ‘[group] think its bad to put bodies on the moon’ and that ‘the moon belongs to everyone (but not rich people)’ is shitty reasoning

                    You aren’t even doing liberal ideology coherently if you (correctly) say that their money should probably just be taken from them if this is what they are spending it on

                    i dont care about liberal ideology

                    So what, you acknowledge that this is a socially worthless endeavor such that it would be more pro-social to seize a portion of their assets, and in fact that them trying to do this should be considered a good pretext for such a seizure, and yet simultaneously that the endeavor should but considered sacrosanct?

                    i think that the rich shouldnt have the sort of money to pull this kind of shit, and i think that ‘[group] think its bad to put bodies on the moon’ and that ‘the moon belongs to everyone (but not rich people)’ is shitty reasoning

                    I am begging you to read any [leftist] critiques of liberal political theory. Literally any. This contains an offhand example that is nonetheless very solid.

                    i dont care about liberal ideology

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              dehumanising language is cringe

              It’s called an idiom, concern troll. Sorry, is “troll” too dehumanizing?

              i dont care, it does not infringe on anyone elses rights to moon

              Actually, giving rich pricks free rein while the rest of us can only watch does indeed infringe on our “rights” to the moon. These things can only be understood collectively, your atomized account is basically just a sophistical way of saying “first come, first served”

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      personally i think its disgusting that they arent respecting a random tribe’s claim to 14.6 million square miles of land they’ve never touched

      Please tell me you’re not American; the irony would be so great you could mine it.