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You know during the flood happen last week, a few Chinese local officials lost their lives during the rescue mission. There’s a reason why the CPC got such a high rating while the current american admin at rock bottom
Yeah CPC isn’t the same kind of animal as western parties. They’re actually on the ground doing community work.
Yep, even Xi Jinping during his early have to serve in the village, town, city and prefecture. It’s not easy and it’s high stress job, you have to get the result, making policy that’s good for the place that you’re serving and you have to show result to convince your peer to vote for you to get promoted. Especially now when China economy is shifting from low quality growth like real estate to high quality like EV, quantum computing AI and green energy.
Exactly, and the fact that people have to rise through the ranks and engage directly with the people they’re serving means that they have a far better understanding of the actual problems people have than western politicians who are barely aware of their constituents.
There’s a massive wildfire happening in the North West Territories right now to the point where Yellowknife is completely surrounded and all I’ve heard are crickets.
Lack of reporting on Canadian wildfires has been stunning. For a while, you had the smoke all over US and Canada so they kinda had to talk about it, but now that it’s gone there’s basically no coverage. I bet most people don’t realize the fires are still going.
Dear liberals, how does it feel to be outdone by the Workers’ Party of Korea for the umpteenth time?
Idk if someone already mentioned it, but Biden was on a beach and when asked about the tragic fires in Maui, he said “no comment”. Later he released a statement about Maui and his team mentioned that he only said “no comment” because he wanted to release a full statement later. Imagine if Xi said “no comment” about the floods, what the liberal press would say about him, how callous and insensitive he is to the victims. Instead his administration acted on it fast and effectively. I’d say Biden is a joke, but jokes are funny. This is just sad
the flood casualties are likely still too high. i hope the cpc invests in more flood-resistsnt infrastructure after this because it’s only going to get worse.
That speaks volumes about both governments attitudes towards their citizens.
Puerto Rico hurricane disaster relief vs Cuba, anyone?
It depends on which government.
The US is still a federal system with states acting as sovereign entities with powers and responsibilities. One of those responsibilities is for disaster relief. FEMA is there to provide guidance and resources, but disaster relief is supposed to be deployed at the state level. This is one of reasons why the National Guard has responsibilities to individual states.
Hawaii has never seen any wildfire or wildfire conditions like this before: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/10/climate/hawaii-fires-climate-change.html
Of course there should be preparations to counter climate change as it continues to aggravate situations like this, but I don’t like the excuse where the feds can blame the states and the states can blame the feds when shit hits the fan. It has become an excuse for inaction. Hurricane Katrina, Texas ice storms, California wildfires, the Kentucky floods, this could have been sorted out looonng ago.
Why do we make the choice to keep things this way when they always lead to disasters?
The problem is that the alternative is having the federal government immediately intervene in any emergency, which states would likely complain about.
I guess the problem then is I care about having a government that doesn’t want to kill me or leave me to die, then. Excuse me, I should have been caring about civility within our decaying governing structure while people roast alive on the street! Oh you’ve made me see the light, you sure have.
I’m not trying to convince you this is correct, just explaining the politics behind why the situation exists. Or maybe you want a strongman who will protect you until they don’t.
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I was noting that the failure of the disaster response seems to be due to local government officials failing in their job.
What is the responsibility of a larger government entity for the governance of cities?
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Nafo, the government attack dogs, are going after anyone talking about the sheer disparity in aid to Maui vs Ukraine.
I think Ukraine has exposed to a lot of people that the whole narrative they’ve been fed that there’s just no money to solve social problems is complete bullshit. Turns out there’s plenty of money but the government would rather spend it trying to weaken Russia than actually help its own people. We’re already seeing a growing backlash happening in Europe, and recent polling in US is showing that people are starting to turn against the war as well.
Its sad, I pray for all the victims. Its all over the news in America.
We have to be clear about the fact that this was not merely a “tragic accident” it was a crime. This was mass murder by the settler state on a colonized people. The neglectful policies of the colonial government of Hawaii compounded on the effects of climate change which the US is doing everything it can to accelerate and which they know will disproportionately affect indigenous populations and poor people.
but its a wildfire, its natural…its not manmade.
It could and should still have had an emergency contingency plan. The neglect is deliberate. There have been many natural disasters that resemble this. Hurricane Katrina comes to mind. The neglect was a form of deliberate cruelty at that time, as well.
Whether or not the fire was set by someone or started “naturally” the blame still lies on those who created the conditions in which it could get this out of control and result in so many victims. If you allow an entire island to turn into a tinderbox and on top of that fail to prepare an adequate response then you are responsible for the fire and the destruction it causes, regardless of where the first spark came from. The people who have the most blood on their hands in this incident are those who sit thousands of miles away in their offices and make policies or run companies which continue to contribute to global warming.
we cannot blame the gov, wildfires are too dangerous to send anyone there. Itd be a death sentence.
We can probably send Biden in there if like we get 10 people to carry him
CHINA IS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD AND EVERYONE SHOULD ASPIRE TO BE LIKE THEM. ITS NOT BAD TO HAVE LABOR CAMPS OR SOCIAL CREDIT SCORES.
ITS NOT BAD TO HAVE LABOR CAMPS OR SOCIAL CREDIT SCORES
Okay, let’s go see about these so-called “labor camps” and “social credit scores”
Social credit system: China’s “Social Credit Score System” - Fact or Fiction?
Xinjiang “labor camps”: Deep Dive: Adrian Zenz & Claims of “Coerced Labor” in Xinjiang Chinaare you ok? do you need a glass of water and to lie down maybe?
Or the world’s biggest manufacturing base, world’s largest economy by PPP, no recession in over 40 years, 90% homeownership rate, elimination of absolute poverty, world leader in green technology, leader in automation technology, etc., etc…
when the least deranged liberals visits your community
I was browsing all and saw your cute post. Then I looked up what this sub is.
So you are serious then? You all go out of your way to praise China for free? Weird hobby imo.
Yeah, we support governments that actually work for their people here.
And do you have any opinion on the labor camps?
Yeah, I think that prison labour camps US runs are disgusting and the fact that people like you project these atrocities on China is doubly so.
The same country that accuses China of having “labour camps” (though that’s a new one gotta admit) is the country that has the highest prison population in the world in absolute numbers as well as per capita. The only country for which the term “school to prison pipeline” applies, and for which it was created. The only country that overly jails their minorities – their Black population – so that they can benefit from their labour renting them out to companies while the prisoner gets 18 cents an hour for that labour.
That country has no right to talk about human rights until they fix their own mess, and this goes for their citizens as well.
Labor camps are cool and good. Reactionaries like you should be given a chance to serve society and reform through labor.
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Natural disasters are great for the economy, i am not joking unfortunely.
I wish our government even pretended to give half as much of a shit as china’s
Indeed, my favorite part is when people argue how Chinese government does all these things to ensure that public is happy so that it can maintain political stability for itself, and I’m like yeah that’s how things should work. The government should be primarily interested in ensuring that the public supports it, this isn’t some gotcha.
It shows how neoliberalism has rotted people’s brains. The government making things better is bad actually as it is an attempt to gain favour. Anything other than managed decline is unthinkable.
Unless it is bending over backwards to subsidise privately owned business, then it is fine and good to pander actually. Gotta make sure that the same handful of people keep getting obscenely richer.
China saved people from flooding, but at what cost.
So I’ve noticed the propaganda about China has shifted over the past ten years. It used to be “China is a hyper-capitalist hellhole where everyone works for 2 cents an hour and you need a gas mask to breathe.” Now it’s “Yeah, China is fixing their problems, they’re building ultramodern infrastructure and unrolling impressive social programs, BUT IT ALL COMES AT A COST.”
maoists are still stuck on the first one
Maoists websites in 2076: “It’s now impossible to deny China is socialist, BUT I’M STILL MAD ABOUT THE GANG OF FOUR”
Once a capitalist hellhole, always a capitalist hellhole dontcha know. There’s no recovery from revisionism. Ever.
I recently tried looking up what the MSM says about the homeless population in China and how they try to help their situations, basically every site I checked was like “yea sorry to say but they’re doing well. We disagree with what they’re doing, but yea😔their centers for feeding and clothing the homeless and trying to work with them to get them housing and occupation/education opportunities are successful, sigh😞” it’s crazy to read. Like the Economist was the only one being like “uh China bad, they HAVE homeless people in their country.”
At the cost of a disproportionate amount of casualties among Party members. It is the duty of every CPC member to render aid in times of emergency, even at risk to their own lives.
Recently, a deputy mayor in Shulan City, a Political Commissar of the PLA, and a senior Party Member engineer were swept away by flood waters while directing evacuations and flood fighting from the front.
When I think of governments helping their people, I think of Beijing 👍🏻
China’s been busy working on doing things like eliminating poverty, creating public infrastructure, providing healthcare, housing, food, and education for all citizens. Chinese government practically eliminated poverty, building infrastructure having used more concrete in 3 years than US in all of 20th century, building 27,000km of high speed rail in a decade.
China has also been doing things like ensuring that everyone has housing with 90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world.China’s been improving real wages (i.e. the wage adjusted for the prices you pay) that have gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country, and making sure people have high social mobility.
Congratulations on being unintentionally correct.
Tell me something, if China is so great, why do so many Chinese want to immigrate to the US, where they can get a better education and a better job and provide a better life for themselves and their family?
Where did you get the notion that many Chinese want to immigrate to your shithole country? For example, 80% of Chinese students, including the US, return home. If things are so bad in China and so great in the west then why are they coming back, and why are thousands of scientists fleeing to China from US?
Maybe because by having a headstart of 2 centuries in industrialization and modernization along with pillaging and imperializing most of the globe for the last century , the US has accumulated a ton of riches and a global cultural hegemony that makes citizens even in a rapidly developing nation like China want to go there , especially for richer western-phile ones for whom America might provide a better living. And of course as i said western cultural hegemony and global media dominance make it seem like the American Dream is still a thing and that the grass is greener at the other side. But still your point ,even without this nuance, is losing steam. Chinese migration numbers to the US has been rapidly falling ,as are Chinese enlistments to US collages and schools, with the number of Chinese people repatriating multiplying over the years and the common feeling being “US kinda sucks after all”
For the same reason many Americans dream of Europe, Southern Europeans of Germany, Europeans that move to the States or Switzerland, or even say Central Asians that move to Russia, people in the countryside move to the city, etc.
There’s the promise of living richer and having more or simply having it easier. There’s nothing else to it and an improvement from Migration doesn’t even necessarily have to come true.
