look I don’t have enough wifi to look up electoral results and french people won’t talk to me, but some of the meals I’ve had in alpine refuges this week have been the best meals I may have ever had

I am also so wine-drunk and so exhausted from being the fastest hiker I have encountered on the TMB. These may influence my opinions

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    I could be wrong, but the French people I’ve met have been the most resistant to going vegan than any race I’ve even met. It’s like all the pigeon and frog and goose they’re eating causes them to be unable to eat tofu.

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      Can confirm, vegans are an ultra minority here.

      One explanation that I find interesting is that all the people who have the right mindset to go vegan in the US do find animal products that are produced by actual farmers in France. In the US that’s impossible from what I know. So basically if you hate cruelty you can buy chicken at the local farmer so you know they had an ok life before slaughter.

      I know that veganism has a definition of animal rights that go beyond “ethical farming” but veganism is also least present in the countries where people are actually confronted with animal death for consumption at an early age. The state of the USian food industry makes it so much more obvious to just cut animal products because they’re all produced so horribly

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        Americans worship the constitution, europeans worship their local cuisine. it’s dumb but everytime i talk about veganism to someone here they act like i’m talking about bombing their hometown shrug-outta-hecks

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    Italian food is 10x better.

    Honestly in terms of everything I’d argue Italy is better than France. Prettier country, better food, better wine, more interesting history and culture. Idk why people jerk off France so much when Italy is right there, I’d travel to Italy over France any day.

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    Out of like classic western foods it’s pretty good, lots of focus on fresh bread, wine, and cream. Personally I think it’s pretty overrated but I think a lot of westerners with underdeveloped palates are happy to land on the sort of rich and creamy bases that a lot of French food has. I do think that it really has created a concept of high-class dining that seems to preclude the use of animal product (I love cooking and it wasn’t until I start cooking more Indian and Asian food that I realized that a lot of my ideas of incorporating meat and animal product into my diet was simply due to this).

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        Yeah really I think it’s not good that this cuisine that’s so meat/diary focused is elevated to this status of being sort of revered. Like conceptually I think French food is all about taking these base flavors that were available in the west and figuring out how to dial them up to a 10, and you can still keep that spirit, but the sort of reverence for how is it has to be done “right” keeps people from experimenting.

        And yeah people also just suck. I did a French night at my house with my roommates and decided to do ratatouille in the style of the movie and I had one friend just fucking hate it and shit on it. And then he said he hated French food and I told him I could’ve easily just done meat in a wine sauce and you’d love it but you’re not even giving this a fair chance. Like try not to be pissy because we didn’t have some stereotypical meat centerpiece

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    It’s not hard to have good food when your definition of good is “I have covered this thing in a butter sauce”

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    French food slaps. Shame it’s overly pretentious a lot of times

    Italian food is the most overrated shit ever. America needs to convert all its Italian restaurants into French ones tbh

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        Lol yeah… I’m allergic to grapes, so I can’t eat at like any french restaurant

        though frankly, I have enough allergies I generally don’t feel safe eating at any restaurant

        I do like the bastardized french cooking I make for myself at home though, using rice wine, coconut cream, and vegan butter

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    It really is amazing how much they managed to accomplish with flour, milk, and the occasional egg.

    It makes me wonder what could be accomplished if chefs spent 300 years making the fanciest food possible out of, like, some seed or nut or tuber.

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    French food is true Fatboy Food. It’s like the yank who salivates over a triple bacon burger knew what herbs were.

    Its for sure better than anything else in northern Europe but thats not saying much.

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    French people have good food, but the whole palette of Chinese cuisine is far more diverse imo, very much not afraid of a char and a skewer. French food is interesting because of how much a single item and it’s products are used in any given dish, but overall flavor profile is not acidic enough imo.