I was looking for information on insect vision for a report I’m writing and came across an internet article. The first thing I noticed is that there was a picture under the header that the article called a mantis, but the anatomy was all wrong. It was covered in ocelli, for one.
Then I started reading, and as someone that has used chat GPT before… Yeah it was clearly written by an algorithm…
This is the site. https://healingpicks.com/
Look at the pics closely and you’ll see they’re messed up.
How long until the whole internet is just this shit? This is why there needs to be rules and shit about this, I don’t care if it stifles the ‘entrepreneurial spirit’ of AI or whatever. The droves of lazy copy and paste style news and ‘top ten’ sites were already bad enough, but this shit is bringing the internet to a new low in quality.
I can’t wait until this shit is banned by China or something.
I used to think the cyberpunk genre trope of finding information online being some difficult task requiring a trained professional to be quaintly anachronistic, but the proliferation of AI generated nonsense has given the concept a new life to the point that “ok yeah soon enough it really will take a skilled professional with up to date detection tools to actually parse through this sea of literal nonsense won’t it?” actually seems like a realistic future.
And yet all the discourse on it gets narrowly focused into the useless dead end of fucking property rights, a fight that’s lose-lose for the public, win-win for business, and does nothing to stop ad farming/well poisoning/astroturfing spam bullshit at all. Like the property rights thing needs to be solved by making generative AI a poison pill that prevents a work from being copywritable at all and is retroactive poison against it as well (Disney used a deepfake AI in Star Wars once? Star Wars is public domain now, because fuck you; a script used AI autofill? The entire property and all licenses attached are now public domain, because fuck you), and the rest has to be solved by criminalizing ad farming spam and making the use of generative AI in it an escalating factor that turns it into a more serious crime.
What I know from playing Cyberpunk 2077 is that being a fixer is half figuring out Google results and half putting together slick 3D powerpoints and putting them on a datashard in a fancy little box that you present ceremoniously to someone
The other part of your job is knowing a guy. Tbh, full time job.
How do I get the job of just being the guy who others have to know? Sounds like a sweet gig
Know a lot of guys who would stick their necks out for you. No joke, this is how a lot of underground networks work.
Get s job managing technical people. It’s not s necessary job or even moral but you basically just have to know which knowledgable person can usually do something best and you get paid well in this dumb system. I know all my managers have had this exact gig.
A Cyberpunk fixer is just a venture capitalist for violence.
in the cyberpunk franchise’s universe there’s actually the blackwall on the net, which is a firewall meant to keep AIs away from the net. it’s interesting because the people responsible for the blackwall is netwatch, which works closely with corporations and is kinda a corp itself i think. in real life, corporations and capitalists are accelerating the AI takeover of our internet. kinda shows how even cyberpunk (the genre) writers cant even make fiction close enough to how fucked up the reality of capitalism really is.
It’s not really a plot point but Phantom Liberty makes a point that Netwatch happily looks the other way for the NUSA and large corps fuck around beyond the Blackwall, and the main quest of the base game makes it clear they are also lying both about the nature of the Blackwall and its efficacy.
Also, the Peralez quest line implies that AIs are manipulating human behavior very directly. There is layers to the lore if you look deeper, but the game puts so much emphasis on style over substance it’s easy to miss it.
Those AIs are more like intentional cyberweapons turned into eldritch horrors (leftover from one of the apocalypses that have happened in the timeline) than just nonsense factories trying to get ad money. Elsewhere, however, there’s a reference (I think on the radio) to an “AI author” that’s supposed to be award winning and extremely prolific, including a blurb and summary to convey to the player that it’s clearly just generating nonsense, so your point about how even their attempts to satirize what was clearly coming fail to be as shitty and absurd as the reality is dead on and something I’ve thought about myself too.
Another place they fall short is advertising: there’s less of it and it’s less intrusive than real advertising. Although that’s honestly not surprising: the artists and writers they had could only devote so much time to making awful memetic spores, and had concerns like “style” and “humor” to think about, whereas real advertising has large dedicated teams working round the clock to churn out the most heinous and infectious memetic spores imaginable.
Disney used a deepfake AI in Star Wars once? Star Wars is public domain now, because fuck you
Im gonna be a netrunner
An archive.org backup from like 2019 is going to be the low-background steel of human knowledge
libgen, sci-hub, etc
Journals are already being poisoned with fake llm generated scientific artlices. The implications are really frightening. Science is already facing a few crises.
Even in legitimate cases, I know for a fact one of my PIs uses ChatGPT to write big chunks of his manuscripts and fixes the details and adds the data. Anything written now has a good chance of having bits of AI in there at the least
I can’t wait until it snowballs into itself and AI is using AI generated text for its own models and gets shittier.
The internet is going to be useless lol. I should learn how to read/find real books in a library to find info.
I’m told this is already a problem for LLM model training. There’s so much algorithmicallyl generated garbage now that they can’t scrape the internet for training sets without feeding garbage in to the garbage machine and getting even noisier garbage out.
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I had a gig for awhile training LLM models for exactly this reason. They wanted human made content to train the models with. Problem is, many of the human trainers are using ChatGPT to get the work done faster. So even the companies going out of their way to avoid using shit content, are using shit content.
Its almost like the capitalist need for churning out constant quick production is bad
They’re publishing books written by AI too
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Yeah I eat quickly thats the same thing right
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Kojima’s prophecy from MGS2 was that AI would create a version of the internet where all the trivial stuff is filtered out from the “truth” so human society doesn’t regress in the then-new social media era.
…instead, we got a nightmare inversion where AI turbocharges the creation of trivial and outright hallucinatory content that slowly overwhelms and annihilates all sentience on the internet.
Maybe we’ll be finally be forced outside
Only to find there is nowhere left outside to go
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The difference is in Kojima’s art, that “AI” is actual AI and not overly bloated statistical models trained on their own bullshit.
Like you say, we’re so much more doomed.
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Yeah. When I say I want to live in a cyberpunk dystopia, I don’t mean that I want to live in some hellscape. The hellscape part is a given at this point. I just want cool body mods and for trench coats to be cool again
god MGS2 was amazing
I wish more video games that are works of art like MGS 2 would be made…
I think current internet is the beginning of the problem kojima envisioned needing a solution. I could see search engines requiring sites be “published” or some other BS. Rather than silence wrongthink it gets tossed in with all the spam and filtered out.
How long until the whole internet is just this shit?
They’ve been the majority of top results from before when chatgpt was a thing. Usually if you search up a release date, or a comparison between two products it’s bot generated shit. Hell, they seem to have gotten worse. Probably because more mainstream places do it now, or they’re just cocky and instead of spec dumps they’re doing harebrained stuff like letting the AI write that the higher megapixel camera is automatically better.
The LLM industry is going to crash and burn so hard and I’m all here for it. A bunch of techbros hyping up what are just big statistical models was never going to last.
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Less LLM articles but “AI” shit has made finding art reference material so annoying. Search results are 50% sponsored ad links and a good 10% are shitty stable diffusion prompts. Even worse if you’re looking for generic scifi fantasy bs, then it feels like 70% of results are peoples ai robo waifus sometimes
Sci Fi art has gone downhill. Now it’s gray powersuits with a little neon blue lights thrown in. It’s so corprate and stale.
Mass effect esque generic corpo scifi aesthetic is so dreary. There was a glut of it even before “AI” was a thing, now it can be even more easily mass produced 😒
Now for where it’s really at, I hope to emulate even 1% of the style and inspired design of Jean Giraud/Moebius. He also was a big influence on Tom Parkinson Morgan/Abaddon, a current fantasy & scifi artist with a hugely unique style I love.
I miss the prog rock style airbrushed fantasy art
You should check out Ten Earth Shattering Blows. Abaddon broadcast it on Twitter some time ago. Weird fantasy, Moebius inspiration in the artwork
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Big covenant aesthetic fan though. Iridescent purple everywhere
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Oh the “scary foreigner” coding vibes around the covenant? It’s bad, folks. The visual design of halo 2/3/reach covenant though? Some of my earliest motivation to pick up art. Always cared way more about the aliens than the ubiquitous jingoistic humans anyway.
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For old sci fi stuff, have you ever gone to a used book store and looked at the old sci fi covers? A lot of interesting art ended up on the covers of cheap pulp sf back in the day.
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I warned everyone this was going to happen and nobody believed me.
Being right doesn’t really make me feel any better about it though.
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Unfortunately I’m not convinced that the fact it’s worse will make it less able to survive. It’s so much cheaper than paying a contractor minimum wage to write copy that I think it’s just gonna reach a good enough point and be here to stay.
the only thing keeping me from sharing your pessimism as that these models have a built in ouroborus function. because they have to eat data, as more and more of the internet becomes ai generated horseshit, the models themselves will essentially eat themselves
I need to grab a copy of Common Crawl and live in the 2019 internet forever.
Warn everyone that bad things are happening
the bad things happen
no one addresses the cause of the bad things
repeat cycle
die
The life of a leftist
you’re missing “be called a fearmongering alarmist” between the first two
Ooh also people using the fact that the world hasn’t ended to prove you’re wrong
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Microsoft going all-in on LLM is just a win-win to do sneaky layoffs and destroy Google by making search absolutely worthless.
What gets me is that it would take 5 min to vet these articles and make minor changes, and they’re too lazy for even that.
That said, cheap content mill crap was already 99.9% of articles. Most content is written purely for SEO>
Yeah I hate hate hate the centent mill and this just seems like it will make it worse
Shinigami eyes extension but for AI content could be a useful browser extension. Enable people to opt out of even clicking links that has AI content or allows AI content.
Or alternatively, what about going whole hog? Something that functions like adblocker except ai-blocker. Remove the content from search results and being seen as linkable content entirely.
That would be nice to have
I can feel my pillow brainly become more smooth as I keep reading
"Pillow Brainly can be shaped and molded, giving individuals the opportunity to optimize their brain’s performance and capabilities. "
“However, it is essential to consider potential side effects and risks associated with altering Pillow Brainly. Intense or improper training methods could lead to fatigue, cognitive overload, or even negative changes in brain function. Therefore, it is crucial to approach brain shaping techniques with caution and seek guidance from experts or professionals.”
For a brief moment, I thought we’d done away with websites that were just random walls of text attempting to take advantage of early stage search engine crawlers.
I’m assuming someone has already mentioned the problems this causes when googling health concerns, but have y’all tried looking up animal advice recently? I was trying to find some info on a rare parosphromenus species I’m working with. In the old days, this would have taken me to some niche forum threads full of posts from dedicated conservationists. Instead I found dozens of articles with care requirements listed that would have killed the fish in a matter of weeks.
At present it’s still pretty easy to recognize GPT text when you see it, but it’s enough to fool web crawlers and by the time they roll out GPT5 it will probably be a lot more difficult for humans to tell it apart.
Hopefully GPT5 is less prone to confidently spout bullshit
it will spout it just as much, it will just get better at covering it up and making it seem more human-like bullshit
