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    Good communication skills. Being able to tell someone else what you mean so they or anyone else could understand. My boss is beyond awful at it makes getting anything done a struggle at times.

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      This. Weirdly enough autistic people seem to struggle less here. Perhaps because they tend to be more literal in their choice of words?

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    Basics of money.

    Like putting away one third of your money every month, keeping a budget, learning when to splurge to maintain self control (budgets not too tight) and learning to live below your means at any cost.

    The magic part is the other half of that equation. Money grows in it’s own (though slowly) and putting some away for later starts paying for its own pretty soon.

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      I highly doubt even half of adults, even in some developed countries, have the spare income to put a third of it away

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        I agree, but assume everybody spends 30% less. The demand goes down for luxury goods. And things get more affordable. Disposable income is about what you can live without. And although I’m obviously not speaking about the poorest among us, most middle class people spend too much and live in debt because they want to keep up with the Joneses.

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          I’ve definitely noticed this in the usa. Where I live this is less of an issue fortunately… I might be a little guilty of this though

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      I’ve started casually consuming history content. Othering is basically the #1 social activity for humans unfortunately.

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    Cooking your own food. No, it’s not hard. No, it’s not unaffordable. And no, it won’t rob you of all your free time.

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    Critical thinking skills.

    It just astounds me when people who should know what this is and how to practice it, don’t.

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      I find it weird this isn’t a standard part of education yet. I would be ashamed to lack those skills

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      Eh, it depends. I don’t know how to sew, except to fix a hole in my sock. Couldn’t make a coat, never needed or wanted to.
      My mother can’t use a computer besides checking her emails and finding a movie to watch, which is all she needs and wants to know.
      Now, if it’s your job to use one effectively and haven’t got a clue? I expect you’d end up in management in no time.

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    Looking up the information online (beyond just googling it in your native language).

    i.e. Trying out the results in other search engines, when looking for the information about something in a foreign land, or something the specific nation is very good at; try using the local language (and use the online translators to search it and read it).

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    Apparently a lot of older people were never taught algebra. I have a lot of math in my life so I find that weird.

    A basic skill that I lack is the habit of keeping things clean. I do my cleaning in bursts, which can be counterproductive because my space is messy between those bursts. It’s a basic skill, and one that I’m working to improve, but it sure does not come naturally to me!

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      Think of everything you do as a circular process. It starts with a clean state. Progresses to using something and making something dirty, and it should end up where you started, so you complete that line by putting away stuff and maintaining the surfaces you used.

      Some processes involve breaks for people, like eating and taking a nap, but then you get up and while making a coffee you complete the circle.

      When you get advanced, these circles start to run in parallel and intermesh and that’s fine if you can manage completing all of them regularly.

      For me the hardest part is managing impulses and sticking to the process. It avoids emotions about lengthening the process later on (needing to clean up before being able to make food again).

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    Knowing how to swim or ride a bike. It’s not too common, but when someone tells me they can’t, I’m quietly kinda shocked.

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      socioeconomics plays a large part here. I learned to swim at the ymca, but schlepping my silly ass to and from swim practice meant parental involvement.

      bikes? learning to ride a bike in the suburbs is natural; learning to ride a bike when you live in an apartment building - hell keeping a bike from getting stolen is difficult when you don’t have a garage.

      imho, these are both easy to understand when you view through a larger socioeconomic starting point: we don’t all have the same opportunities and resources.

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        Race also plays a large part of it. In most cases, if your parents know how to swim, you do too. But many black people don’t know how to swim, even if their parents know how. Not because of a lack of transport or means, (though that could certainly play a part) but because their parents didn’t want to get their hair wet to teach them.

        For those who don’t know, ultra textured hair is a very special beast, and takes a lot of specific care to keep it looking nice. And getting it wet tends to be a big sin unless you’re specifically washing it.

        So all the black parents never took their kids to the pool to teach them how to swim. Not because they couldn’t afford it, but because they physically didn’t want to get wet. So swimming knowledge gets broken from one generation to the next. So the black people who know how to swim are typically the ones who go out of their way to learn on their own, or who have non-black friends who taught them.

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          Yep it’s a classic symptom for me though. It’s often not nice for neuro people to have it pointed out to them, and it really isn’t nice when people do it to me. It’s embarrassing and taps into horrible memories from school.

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            If you spell something incorrectly and someone points it out (as long as they do this in a respectful way) why does that trigger you? You can clearly spell perfectly well so if you spell incorrectly on the odd occasion and someone tells you this it doesn’t imply something bad. If anything, you can improve your spelling for the future. 🤔

            Just asking, please no hate.

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              I akshuly no a gy ho rites lik this, bekaze hys brane litrly kant komprihend the difrense betwen fonetiks and speling.

              Just by talking to him, you’d never guess anything was wrong. He’s eloquent and well spoken. He can read just fine. But watching him type emails is an exercise in patience. He’s in his late 30’s and it’s not something that remedial classes or correction by his peers could “cure”.

            • 🇨🇦🇩🇪🇨🇳张殿李🇨🇳🇩🇪🇨🇦@ttrpg.network
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              There are a couple of words you might want to look up. These are “dyslexia” and “dysgraphia”.

              For the latter, no, they cannot improve their spelling for the future. It is literally impossible and correcting them constantly is a huge drain on their self-worth.

              (P.S. Good on you for asking, however, instead of lecturing.)

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              Thanks for asking. Neurodiverse people are often labelled as thick and/or lazy at school, I was one of them. I had times where I was humiliated by teachers in front of class etc for making errors, and faced ridicule from students. Parents and teachers would flip on me for making mistakes, and I just couldn’t stop making them. It all really damaged my self esteem, relationship with parents, and education.

              There’s other reasons that’s just the main one. And it’s fairly common with neurodiverse people IME

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                Thanks for replying. These experiences sound like people weren’t treating you with respect when correcting your spelling. That’s obviously pretty shitty.

                But if someone does respectfully correct your spelling would you still be upset and take offence at them?

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                  What are they trying to achieve correcting someone like that? IME they always do it publicly (so not through friendly DM), and often say it with ridicule.

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    Empathy. It shocks me how many “adults” have a toddler-level understanding of their relationship to the world (as in it doesn’t revolve around them) and society (as in we have responsibility for each other). So many “adults” sound like screeching toddlers whenever there’s a hint of someone else getting something they don’t get. It even reaches the level of “I don’t like this movie so it shouldn’t have been made” as if the very existence of entertainment or education or whatever in a field they themselves don’t prefer is a personal affront.

    And this isn’t even a right-wing thing. The feminist National Action Committee in Canada was turned from a potent and feared political force to a laughingstock by ostensible left-wing women deciding that their concerns over daycare trumped native women’s active murders among other intersectional issues.

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      Something that bothers me about a lot of people’s sense of empathy is that they’re only able to employ it by directly relating events to themselves. It’s like a stereotypical “How would you feel if this happened to your daughter?” thing, where people can only extend empathy as far as a situation that it’s possible for them to get into.

      I also hear this a lot around disasters, whether they be natural, terrorist attacks, etc. If you’re around somebody who has been anywhere near the location of the event, get ready for the “Gosh, that’s so awful. I was only there six years ago, it could have been me.” Can’t you just fucking care about the wellbeing of things that aren’t you? Feel bad because a bad thing happened, not by making it about yourself.

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        I don’t see what’s wrong with that. That’s also empathy, just not everybody follow the same way to feel it.

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        where people can only extend empathy as far as a situation that it’s possible for them to get into.

        I wonder if there is a distinguishing term for this.

        Empathy = The ability to put yourself in someone else’s shoes (no matter how different they are from you)

        ? = The “ability” to imagine yourself in a situation that someone else, who’s very similar to you, experienced.

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        I lost most of mine during Covid. The amount of selfishness by people during that time has made me want to never be empathetic towards them… and there were A LOT of selfish people.

        • I have to confess I lost all empathy for people in the west over COVID for a while. While we were being hit with the heaviest and largest quarantine in history, cowering down in terror in our apartments, I kept one thought in my head in the first two weeks: “We’re suffering so the rest of the world has time to prepare and fight back.”

          Then all y’all didn’t prepare. Didn’t fight back. Instead broke quarantine restrictions because you needed a fucking haircut.

          I mean even ignoring the clown-pants-wearing CDC, the sheer utter shitfuckery of the average person freaking out because they had to wear a couple of fucking grams of paper over their mouth and nose, squealing like stuck pigs and generally acting like entitled shitheads over it, not to mention the people who not only broke quarantine, but fucking bragged about it on social media (like the bridal shower that turned into a massive cluster of cases), just had me gobsmacked in disbelief.

          So when Wuhan opened up again and people did things like celebrate with a massive pool party that sent shockwaves of (typical) hatred at the Chinese around the world for daring to celebrate after living through the worst quarantine in history and coming out whole, I decided all y’all chucklefucks could die for all I gave a shit about.

          Took me a few years to shove that rage back down and clamp it into a red-hot ball deep in my heart.

          Now I feel sorry for people suffering again.

          Except Trump supporters suffering at the hands of his idiot policies, I mean.

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        Selfishness can be trained away, lack of empathy not very much it seems.

        Happily we store all these non-empats in position of power.

        • I think empathy can be trained. Children in general (I mean very young children) have no empathy. They’re vicious little sociopaths. But if they’re gently introduced to empathy as they grow, by the time they’re, like, 5 they will have empathy. (Those who were not taught to be empathic by 5 will never be able to develop it.

          coughMuskcough coughTrumpcough

          But you can lose empathy over time. Trauma can make you lose empathy. Fury (c.f. my above rant about COVID-19) can make you lose empathy. Tragedy can make you lose empathy. THAT kind of empathy loss, however, can be re-learned. It’s not even all that hard. The world just has to stop beating up on you a while, or you just have to meet someone who has it worse than you do to snap back.

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        It’s akin to a skill, after all. Like humor. Having either one does not make someone good or bad. They’re just gimmicks in the end.

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      I think overall, most people are just too dumb. I mean you could always say that, regardless of how smart the population actually is in absolute terms, simply based on variability. But still, so many things can be traced back to this. Of course, smart people also do really dumb shit, just less often.

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          If everyone is the same, why do some consistently do far less stupid shit than others? That is not something the society defines. Some are literally too stupid to see how their actions directly lead to their own harm. No need to look at “complex” things like voting trump as an immigrant with the wrong skin color and then getting deported.

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            I believe it was Einstein that said “don’t judge a fish by its ability to ride a bicycle”, I’m probably misquoting somewhat.

            Anyway, I think what the person you are replying to was trying to say that everyone has things that they are stupid at.

            For instance, I can’t dance other than either specifically spelled out instructions like waltz or like an epileptic on crack cocaine in a rave.

            I have a lot of other things I’m bad at but that’s just the squeakiest wheel to grease.

            I honestly feel like these people are trying to say something and don’t have the skill needed to say it.

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              Not being good at everything is something completely different. Dumb is when someone says things like “English is God’s language because the Bible is written in English”.

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    How to reason through solving a problem or fixing something. Not necessarily being successful, but just the process of thinking about possible things to try or steps to take.