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Metropolitan Police @metpoliceuk · 6h There are a number of events taking place in London this weekend.
Anyone attending should be aware that officers policing these will act where criminal offences, including those related to support of proscribed groups or organisations, are committed.
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Saw some reports the cops are telling people they can’t even display things like “Free Palestine”, shit is going downhill fast
“such as flags”
So wait, is there a Palestine action flag, or are they saying it’s illegal to have a Palestine flag?
The UK is completely off the rails right now.
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Who do you think funds their propaganda?
I’m so sick of takes like this that are borderline nazi ZOG bullshit.
agreed. Isreal, the tiny nation that could never have existed without the backing if the West, is not, and never has been in charge. Even the people actually paying for the propganda are based in the US (Adelson being the biggest example)
Also that
The Americans have never needed an excuse to go do some genocide, and the rest of the
are US allies and thus don’t need one eitherOf course they wouldn’t, but British media is filled to the brim with pro-Israel propaganda, is it not? I wouldn’t think it would be controversial to say that it might have at least some impact on forcing politicians and the public to maintain support for the genocide, but maybe I’m missing something here.
The difference is that it’s primarily the US in control and by extension groups like AIPAC because the state of Israel’s goals aligns with US interests. The claim wasn’t that there was zero impact. The state of Israel is an easy stand-in for “the Jews” in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. It’s important to remember that Israel is only able to stand because of the US (and sometimes its European satellites) funneling money to it
Much thanks for the detailed response and I agree with all of that.
No definitely not also that.
Insane clown country
They should make another group though with a similar ideology and plan of action.
They already have and they’ve named it after some zionist politician lol
Beautiful lol
Literally hours after the ban, actionists smashed up a supplier of Elbit systemsin Scotland and simply claimed they were autonomous. The only real difference is they’ve stopped wearing red overalls that were Palestine Action’s calling card, and used hivis jackets instead.
IMO these actionists are PA in all but name. Note the “drop Elbit” on the wall, which is the core campaign demand of PA. As long as that goal carries forward and actionists continue, the government has failed.
https://www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/5283601/cromwell-tools-glenrothes-palestine-graffiti/
There’s video of the action but it seemed to have been wiped from instagram since it was under a Pro-PA account.
Here’s news on the org naming itself after Yvette Cooper (zionist home secretary) https://www.thenational.scot/news/25291394.new-direct-action-group-yvette-cooper-emerges/
Ya line to hear it!
Thinking of putting up Palestine stuff in my windows just to dare them to come get me.
as long as it isnt support for PA or displays its logo, you have every legal right to do so.
Of course anything construed as support for PA post-ban online could be used if your devices were seized, but that’s a lot of resources the cops are only willing to use if they think you’re an organiser or actionist. Stay safe!
Okay do the american flag next and the nazi flag then, you won’t.
Trying to limit our – I mean, their freeze peach? What are you, a bigot?
Courageous move by Keir Starmer, in the Yes Minister sense.
Seriously though it’s just such an absurd overreaction. They hemorrhaging off their own politicians! They’re arresting 84 year old upper class priests!
I think it’s a massive misstep by the govt. They are pushing PA organising underground for the moment, but dont seem to acknowledge how it will just re-emerge with a new name and new spokespersons just like National Front did.
All the while they’ve publicly and openly shit the bed trying to look tough like a school prefect who got picked on a few too many times. It doesn’t make them look good to the fascists, their own base, or anyone really.
Courageous move by Keir Starmer, in the Yes Minister sense.
I don’t think he expects to get re-elected anyway.
oh he will get re-elected, no different to how the neoliberal and fascist caucus won reelection in the US for over a generation.
Who’d vote for Reform-lite when they can vote for Reform?
most polling orgs are predicting a reform win
they are the overt fascists
Direct actionists have just started calling themselves “unaffiliated” or “yvette cooper”. the org also seems to have decent opsec and never had any members beyond its founders and loosely-organised cadres that did workshops in a few cities.
I imagine a few actionists will get charged if they have email or phone comms that link them to PA before the ban, but the UK courts are nothing if a bunch of sticklers for rules and will probably be lenient (as with PA pre-ban) if cases come through the system. Proscription orders cannot apply retroactively.
the risk will be to regular folk who will be harassed and arrested to break up Palestine marches, other solidarity events like fundraisers, and organisers of direct action training/workshops.
Considering the Filton 18 is already being held without trial under terrorism charges, I wonder how much difference it will make to deter or punish actionists. Because if the UK govt never needed proscription to indefinitely hold these people, what is their real goal?
In bad country
So like, that means a UK person can’t retweet something that praises them or something like that or they’ll have to pay a fine or something?
But in the anglo world they’ll still be getting shared around, so a lot of UK people might do that by accident thinking it’s fine, can that happen?
Up to fourteen years in prison if they want to make an example of you.
Yup. Of course these laws are arbitrarily enforced because that would involve rounding up thousands of people with more bark than bite.
They don’t care for the lone poster on twitter, but they DO care about organisers and people putting out feelers to become actionists. The rest are selectively harassed or made examples of every now and then to make examples of people.
Courts are backed up as it is, and prison spaces are low, so they’re being strategic right now.
The question is, what happens if too many people start doing things they can’t ignore.
Proscribe these nuts
How long before someone puts on a Guy Fawkes mask and starts throwing knives at cops?
Coming Soon: Getting UK streamers arrested by making them read out Pro Palestine Action donations.
