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Thorngraff_Ironbeard [he/him]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

Star Wars and its consequences...

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Star Wars and its consequences...

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  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    For my own sanity, I refuse to believe this is not a bit.

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      It’s a bit. Checked the guy’s posting history. Here’s another banger:

      https://www.reddit.com/r/IRstudies/s/fIT5ovLwYu

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        Thank you for your through provoking response. I have not considered the existence Air People (Aetherocracies ). I will continue not to.

        incredible

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        Anyway, while I was explaining my point she rudely hits me with the Thalassocratic stare (Sea person stare)

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          when someone says something so inlander that you just gotta hit them with that Thalassocratic stare

        • a_blanqui_slate [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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          Bronze age collapse confirmed.

      • CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml
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        Apparently geopolitics follows the plot of the 3rd gen pokemon games.

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        Good to know.

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    1984:

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      I was desperately trying to find a way to view deleted reddit posts, but couldn’t figure out a way to make it work. I must know what the idea was.

      • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        Change the domain from “www.reddit” to “reveddit” – note that you have to remove the www. subdomain while you’re at it. That will work if the post/comment was indexed before being removed, and only if it was removed by a mod or admin. Self-deleted stuff is gone forever.

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          I tried that one, but it was giving me some chud “THE COMMUNISTS ARE TRYING TO SHADOWBAN US” shit and asking for an API key that I was too lazy to bother with lol

          • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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            Ah, yeah; Reddit scrapers were probably a casualty of the Reddit Pushshift API enshittification measures

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        I don’t know how I know this but it was definitely George Floyd

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          dead-dove-3

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    https://www.reddit.com/r/jedi/comments/17g5gzu/update_joe_biden_jedi/

    I (32M) am a researcher in international development, and made a post last week about Joe Biden being a Jedi, and unfortunately I dont think a lot of people agreed. However this is okay. Academic disagreement is really important to having a lively debate about Global (Galactic) Politics.

    I also have a change of heart. Much like Ben Kenobi, I have a mentor. Professor Ballard and I had a lively discussion on this topic. Continuing with the aid (force) debate, I think that we can look at it like lightside (aid to Israel from the Global Elite (Jedi Council)) and darkside (aid to Hamas from the Dark forces(Witches of Dathomir)). This analytical framework has a lot of explanatory power, and really aids in constructing a foundation for understanding Regional Politics.

    Even though Joe Biden is a “Catholic”, I know he supports Judaism (Jediism) in the Middle East (Tatooine). When Air Force One (Warp Speed) landed in Tel Aviv (Alderaan), I really thought there was a new hope for a different ending for Israel than there was for Alderaan. If we flip the theoretical framework around, we may see that the structural threats to Israel have similar plans for Alderaan as Abu Obaida of the Al-Qassam Brigade (Darth Vader and Stormtroopers), even though they are Muslims, unlike Vader who is a Sith.

    What do you guys think? It is important to understand our world through the lenses of theory. In this case, Star Wars.

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      We’ve got a poster here folks che-smile

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      aid to Hamas from the Dark forces(Witches of Dathomir)

      michael-laugh i am fucking sent

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      Let him cook

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      oh man, I was worried this was real, but i feel safe knowing this is shitposting.

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      🤮

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      from the Dark forces

      unbelieveable that dark forces isn’t the star wars reference

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    This is a bit, right? anakin-padme-2

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        Still pissed they made a guy who was too extreme about fighting genocidal fascist and then named him after Che.

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          He’s originally a clone wars character who is running a resistance movement to rescue his king from the CIS lol. The more I think about it, Andor was a fucking miracle and season 2 will probably be trash.

          Giving him a Darth Vader wheeze in Rogue One is some weird ableist horseshoe theory shit, though.

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      anakin-padme-3

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      Definitely

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    aid (The Force)

    This is 100% a bit. Not a great one but definitely a bit.

    • Thorngraff_Ironbeard [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      One must hope

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        soypoint-1 you mean a new hope ??? soypoint-2

        • Thorngraff_Ironbeard [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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          Noooooo rage-cry

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          kelly

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    Hamas (Empire)

    …

    I, John Brown, am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land can never be purged away but with blood.

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      That one always confused me. Like, there is no good amount of evil, right? But people all across popular media prattle on about evil being necessary as though it makes any sense.

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          I always hated that grey jedi shit. You cannot use your magic powers to hurt people for your own selfish goals just litte a, as a treat. The whole narrative around the force, at least in the better stories, is that the dark side is inherently corrupting - the more you use magic to hurt people to get what you want, the easier it gets to cross that ethical line.

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              This is why it’s vital to remember that Maria saved Star Wars in the edit and Lucas didn’t even direct Empire or Jedi. Through the magic of fanon and death of the author and contempt for IP law I can just pretend Lucas never said that.

              Plus, Lucas was constantly making up new shit and retconning things. I firmly believe he was just making the story up as he went along.

              But yeah god I hate the “father son daughter” bullshit. Like why the hell would you even do that? It’s so dorky and out of place with the entire rest of the story. ; p

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          Every actual “Grey Jedi” in the actual setting is either

          a) A light side user who thinks the space cops are full of shit. (Ashoka, Bindo or b) A dark side user attempting to be all edgy but who is actually full of shit (Kreia)

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            Chris Avellone writing Kreia as a Jedi south park contrarian is 100% to blame for the folks UlyssesT is describing lol. Yeah, she’s clearly the villain, but these kinds of people were never media literate enough to wrap their heads around that.

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              “Hmm I think Darth Betrayal has some good points about why doing good things is actually bad!” - a shocking number of media illiterate people down through the years.

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              HP setting’s fucking nonsense. literally would only take one wizard to say “hey asswipes, magic is real. here is literally infinite bread. if they try to wipe your memory of this i am literally just going to transform into a fucking bird or something, fly somewhere else, and do it again. let’s go kill every world leader.”

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              If Star Wars had better writing and consistent leftists on the writing team, there’d be room for Liberation Ideology Jedi

              This was apparently the original concept for Qui Gon and it’s still supposed to be true in the background that he was like this and the council hated him for it, it just frustratingly never actually showed up in any actual media

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        I think they had to retcon the dark side philosophically because of the whole balance thing. In the original trilogy it seemed more like the dark side was just fear and anger and hate. In the prequels they added stuff like passion and ambition, which are good emotions in moderation.

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          A generous reading of the prequels is that the jedi were wrong, and their fossilized view of the force is what made them blind to the Sith operating right in front of their faces.

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            Yeah, the Jedi council is pretty dogmatic and set in its ways. Also, more than a little stupid because none of them ever stopped to ask “why the fuck would we want to bring balance to the Force? We have a huge temple on the Capital World and the Sith are in hiding somewhere on the Rim.”

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              One of the things I liked about The Last Jedi is that Yoda sort of says “Yeah, we fucked up bad, the best thing to do is let Rey take the wheel and start over with the benefit of our guidance but without our dogmatism and institutional trauma.”

              Also Luke admitting he never actually read all the Jedi books. I thought that was a really funny moment.

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        You can largely blame Disney for that one. Lucas has been extremely explicit and direct that the dark side and the sith are a corrupting influence on the natural balance of the force and the universe the Jedi serve.

        Anakin’s entire fall was a decision to place his own selfish desires over his greater roll and duty as the chosen one and hence: it would forever dominate his destiny. Hence it took a supreme act of selflessness and of sacrifice to bring the force back into balance.

        People got confused because “well guess balance can only mean equal parts light and dark” and Disney just rolled with it.

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          He also got tricked into being evil by Palpatine vague notion that he could stop Natalie Portman from dying in childbirth if he was more evil.

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              Lucas having half formed ideas that he didn’t know how to develop is the prequels

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        Luke is the chosen one who brings balance to the force by getting rid of vader and the emperor. People are just bad at media.

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          No. Anakin is the chosen one, and he’s the one who kills the emperor. His final redemption brings the force back into balance by making a grand sacrifice to let go of his own selfish desires and save his son.

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            Good point!

            I really like that in Star Wars there are parallel military and spiritual struggles. The story doesn’t pretend that defeating the Emperor and Vader will resolve the military conflict on it’s own - That’s up to the rebels. They effectively take out the deathstar on their own. And then there’s a separate, parallel struggle between the force users, and it’s ultimately Luke’s resolve and compassion and Anakin’s moment of letting go of his hatred upon seeing his son’s strength in the Light that resolves the struggle.

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    researcher in international development at florida state

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      Getting that degree in advanced gusano studies

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    Wrong. The Luke Skywalker parallel is some old Vietnamese veteran who merced US soldiers during the war and was instrumental in bringing down some US base.

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    They do this with every media they like, but at least this is a bit

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    Media literacy is dead

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    remember when the US went to Vietnam to blow up the death star?

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    when your understanding of politics is based on vibes.

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    it would make far more sense to call Russia the empire.

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      Idk, that seems equally contrived. Look at the amount of civilian casualties from almost two years of war in Ukraine and compare it to one month of Israel bombing Palestine.

      Russia aren’t good but they’re not blowing up planets of civilians to make a point.

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        it would also be reductive and silly but Russia is at least a large military power with vast resources which makes more sense as a comparisson

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