• OffSeasonPrincess [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    Venezuela has lots of well-armed, militant ppl whod instantly start bombing american “investments”

    Iraq too turned “uninvestable” to lots of US companies during the insurgency

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        The Venezuelan government is not exactly Impressing rn, but if you think the Danish military is better I don’t know what to tell you. And there is no real native greenlandic military.

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          Yes, but you need infrastructure and people to run mines and oil pumps, Venezuela is inhabited, with roads and electricitty and pleasant all year round, fucking Greenland is none of that

          And it wont be that hard to make a deal with the current government. Hell it’s what it was gonna happen sooner or later. Sure, fucking 10 years of economic sadism later makes the deal way sweeter for the Great Satan, plus it fueled these last twelve years of right wing shitstains in the rest of latin america

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            The Greenlandic government is quite eager to train people to work in the mining sector, including having a combined high school mine work education track and a pretty impressive mining engineering university program.

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        Well, it’s just my opinion, but look at the populations, both absolutely and in terms of density, and also most critically, consider the attitudes of their respective governments. There are obviously people in Greenland who despise US imperialism from the bottom of their hearts, but what support do they have? Very little compared to Venezuela and its militias and paramilitaries, for all its poverty, and in Greenland such people are much fewer in number as well.

        I don’t say this to write off the indigenous people of Greenland as incapable of self-defense, I am just confident that Greenland is functionally a softer target so long as NATO is cowed by the US.

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    60 thousand people with no friends or land borders in the north atlantic vs 30 million people with friendly(ish) neighbours and relatively porous borders on the equator. The US can depopulate Greenland entirely if they want to, which the pillaging companies see as insurance for them

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    They want Greenland so they can blockade Arctic sea trade that has opened up with climate change and provides a back door for China and Russia to ship goods and oil without being subject to existing US imperial naval enforcement. Since the Earth is a sphere the northern routes will become the shortest and most profitable shipping routes by far.

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          They are going for the stranglehold and they will squeeze tight. They are losing power everywhere but neeeeeed the imperialist unequal exchange and expansionism on a material, existential level. Where else is left? Europe is about to become proletarian.

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        theres also useful minerals, i could see the usa trying to do a state controlled infrastructure buildup to import hundreds of thousands of americans (contractors and troops) to support naval bases there with mineral extraction included. with how europe is structured they cant really do this sort of direct effort.

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    Greenland is about Rare Earths. A lot of the hype and security state agenda surrounding Rare Earths is driven by the pretense that you can just mine magic rocks and use them to make computers. From what I understand a lot of these industries rely on the kind of massive refining capacity that only full blown industrial economies even need. Rare Earths in China, for an example, are often the result of the massive iron industry that is refined out of Inner Mongolia. The Iron-Steel pipeline is the main show there, the rare minerals extracted are a byproduct.

    So, in short, Rare Earths are downstream from the US Gov’s grift. Whereas it is the US Gov that is downstream from the dictats and timetables of the oil industry.

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    Greenland is kayfabe people keep trying to project a sensible motive onto; Trump is vain and doesn’t understand the mercator projection, he wants to make Europe kowtow, he wants a legacy of growing US territory. it really is as stupid as it sounds but the fascists finally crowned their emperor and they have to go along with his ddmentia whims

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    Venezuala has a much higher risk of war (irregular?) destroying all their new stuff. Or it might end up nationalized, like what happened to a lot of the oil companies stuff years ago, since the Venezuelan government is basically the same as it was under Maduro.

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    I unironically think straight up map painting is a big part of it. Greenland is very big and looks even bigger than it really is on the least woke map projection, the Mercator projection.

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    Decades of sanctions on Venezuela means that things like their oil industry need hundreds of millions to billions of dollars in upgrades to even begin to be exploitable at larger scale. Also, a fuckton more people with decades of reasons to do a fuckton more damage to any attempts to exploit Venezuelan resources by the USA.

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    I feel like even trying to squeeze coherent reasoning out of this is giving it too much credit.