President Donald Trump acknowledged having called federal prosecutors in California to probe the state’s primary election results, claiming without evidence on Tuesday that his intervention resulted in Republican Steve Hilton advancing to the runoff in the gubernatorial race.

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        Don’t know why you’re being downvoted. You’re right.

        When law enforcement (not just police, but the whole ‘justice system’ behind them) refuses to enforce law, crimes become legal.

        I’ve yet to see any of DJTs election interference face consequences; even with him openly bragging about it.

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          When law enforcement (not just police, but the whole ‘justice system’ behind them) refuses to enforce law, crimes become legal.

          People become illegal. If you ain’t part of the in-group then you’re The Enemy.

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          People don’t get that it’s not an actual crime for him because he cannot be prosecuted as president.

          People seem to have inconvenient thought amnesia.

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            That’s not what that ruling actually says and the government investigating Joe Biden and his family makes it clear that only applies to a sitting president taking part in presidential matters. The ruling effectively says active investigation/prosecution can’t happen while in office only after they leave office and presidential duties are only able to be strictly defined after a president leaves office and an investigation takes place.

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                You get that not being charged with a crime ≈ unable to be charged correct?

                He’ll probably die before he’s charged, his admin though they’ll be the ones to end up in prison or finding their way to a long drop with a short fall.

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                  At the end of the day it’s the same thing. Laws are meaningless. It doesn’t matter what words you wrap around it to win an argument online.

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                  You get that not being charged with a crime ≈ unable to be charged correct?

                  No, because that’s a lie.

                  Actually, no, wait: I think you just wrote ≈ when you meant ≠ .

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            Having (temporary) immunity does not cancel out the definition for a crime

            EDIT: I briefly forgot about the Trump versus United States lawsuit. Immunity is not temporary afaik.

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              Shitty SCOTUS rulings don’t make it not a crime either. Dred Scott was the law of the land at one point, too.

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              Only for “official acts” which we all know what will happen when a case comes before Uncle Clarence Tom and the rubber-stamp-SCOTUS.

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              It is temporary. The ruling says sitting president and investigating Biden says even the admin doesn’t accept that it’s total immunity.

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            People don’t get that it’s not an actual crime for him because he cannot be prosecuted as president.

            People don’t get that because it’s simply not true, in multiple ways.

            First, that is not law; that is an opinion written by the Office of Legal Counsel during the Nixon era that said a sitting president could not be prosecuted.

            Even now, after the hideous 2024 Supreme Court decision that says all presidents have absolute criminal immunity for official acts, it says nothing about unofficial acts, nor criminal acts committed prior to or after a presidency, hence Todd Blanche’s recent efforts to get blanket immunity for him and his organization for everything they may have done prior. Note the language:

            The release does not stop at the IRS or the Treasury. It sweeps in every executive-branch component—DOJ, FBI, SEC, FinCEN, any agency—for any matter that could be characterized as “Lawfare” or “Weaponization.” The federal government, by contract, has agreed never to pursue Trump, his family, his trusts, or his businesses for anything that meets that definition, forever.

            Why would any of that be necessary if nothing is actually a crime for a president?

            Also, there is no law anywhere in the US that says “this is a crime unless it was undertaken by a president, in which case it’s not.” That is just asinine.

            “Election interference” is not a crime because it’s just a phrase. The crimes have specific names: electoral fraud, voter impersonation, voter fraud, vote buying, etc. and absolutely are crimes, no matter who does them.

            People seem to have inconvenient thought amnesia.

            Yes. You do. These may help:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_immunity_in_the_United_States

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_interference

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      Election fraud. “Voting” fraud or “voter” fraud is the mostly-fictional problem he’s trying to use as an excuse.

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      no no you don’t understand. there was voter fraund until our god empire donald trump made a phone call and fixed it! thank god the election wasn’t stolen by the democrats!

      /s just in case

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    Remember when Clinton got impeached for a blowie? This mother fucker INTERFERES WITH AN ELECTION and nothing happens

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    Ah yes just like he tried and failed to do with Georgia? Trying to strong arm them into finding the votes?

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    Why bother reporting this? We know he’s lying. He literally lies about everything.

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      Of course he’s lying…and delusional…and losing his grip on reality…But still, the one who wouldn’t stop crowing about voter fraud openly bragging about committing election interference (whether real in its effects or not) should be cause for alarm…

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        There’s a growing number of people who insist we shouldn’t bother talking about trump’s crimes and that’s a bizarre trend, which we’re seeing here.

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          I would guess, hoping for the best, that the thinking would be not to dignify him with the platform, somewhat like not naming the criminal in a report so as to not encourage copy cats or false clout. I think some might land there in good faith, but there are times when silence just won’t do.

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      That’s not a certainty.

      The only time he’s not lying is some of the times he’s bragging about breaking the law, so this one might be true.

      Given that it’s one of the state where his minions HAVEN’T yet taken over the whole election apparatus, though, I’ll concede that it’s unlikely.