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Dort_Owl [they/them, any]@hexbear.net to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 天前

AI Fiction Is Easy to Detect Because It's Stupid and Bad, Research Finds

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AI Fiction Is Easy to Detect Because It's Stupid and Bad, Research Finds

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Dort_Owl [they/them, any]@hexbear.net to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 5 天前
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  • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    There’s just an ineffable quality to it, like it’s pure mimicry of form without substance, stretching a thin skein of rhetoric overloaded with that insufferable “prestigious” literary style but instead of obfuscating actual meaning it just hides a gnawing void that tears at your mind as you try to process its tangled prose.

    I hate it so fucking much, especially when someone uses it to garble up a story they actually wrote because they think it “improves” the prose.

    • insurgentrat [she/her, it/its]@hexbear.net
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      I’ve seen it called semantic ablation

      • Letztertod [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I prefer Hayao Miyazaki “It’s an insult to life” can be applied at many things but especially here

        • insurgentrat [she/her, it/its]@hexbear.net
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          He was referring to a computer generated movement animation https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/hayao-miyazaki-artificial-intelligence-animation-insult-to-life-studio-ghibli-1201757617/

          • Letztertod [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            Yes I know, I remember it was about a computer generated animation about a figure in pain.

    • Dort_Owl [they/them, any]@hexbear.netOP
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      deleted by creator

  • Enjoyer_of_Games [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    A+ headline.

  • Ildsaye [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Just as LLMs for coding can do syntax but are no engineers, fiction LLMs can turn phrases but are no storytellers

  • insurgentrat [she/her, it/its]@hexbear.net
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    Also the stories look like poo when you graph them.

    • KuroXppi [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      LLMs can’t even shit out a good Bristol stool chart

    • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      skibidy prose

    • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Woke no longer wants graphs that look like vulvas

  • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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    i love reading whole ass articles about studies about shit that should be obvious to anyone interacting with the thing

    • insurgentrat [she/her, it/its]@hexbear.net
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      Anti-intellectual Twitter-arse take.

      It’s obvious balls fall down. Knowing precisely why and how they fall is immesurably valuable.

      • comrade_pibb [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        sorry sweaty, it’s the right of the individual to reduce the entire world to a series of thought terminating truisms

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          Instead let’s run the world through a Rube Goldberg ass LLM pipeline to tell us the truth

          Diagram from the storyscope paper

          Treating this as science is a far greater danger to intellectual endeavors than random takes.

      • LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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        Okay? That’s why i ask Google’s search llm 1000s of inane questions costing google 20 cents a pop, so it can tell me how balls fall down in 2000 incorrect ways. It’s the only way to find the truth

    • Dort_Owl [they/them, any]@hexbear.netOP
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      Journalism is so cooked, folks

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    Waa a study written in partnership with Google DeepMind and the author used AI to implement her code and edit her writing.

    "I am a big believer that AI can help or hurt writing, but usually helps when not used to create more internet ‘slop’.”

    Cool catgirl-flop

    • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      I see that so much on forums recently

      Me: Why are you posting slop OP?

      OP: I’m just using LLMs for spell checking.

      The post: 1000-2000 words structured with headings (usually more or less the same headings) and m dashes for what is usually a 100-200 word question.

      I’ve also seen someone proclaim that they ran their slop through a deslopify slop tool to make it less sloppy.

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        I regularly get clients pasting the entire LLM output into emails, including the preamble where the LLM tells the client how good its output is

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    To be fair most human fiction is bad as well

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      As a bad fiction and bad music connosseur, Bad human slop can be a lot more satisfying to experience than llm slop because the idea that something terrible was done with passion, is very entertaining.

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    What about derivative? As someone who has read and written fan fiction, I worry that our craft will be the first to be invaded by generative AI. Want your two favourite characters from two different fandoms shipped? AI can make it happen. Or you could write it yourself but “ain’t nobody got time for that.”

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      Look up the recent drama with people getting caught with invisible Claude markup html tags in their fanfiction on AO3 from copy and pasting output from Claude right into the site’s rich text processor, it’s already widespread unfortunately

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      “ain’t nobody got time for that.”

      There will always be folks who enjoy the making at least as much as the consuming. And until such time as machines are themselves living the human condition, the best fanfics will always be made by people.

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      Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s

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        Detroit-style pizza for only $6?

        Hail Caesar!

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        My Braesar fic!

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          Ceasar was with the guys at the senate. They were surrounding him, giving it to him everywhere. All the hunks were there, all of them taking turns giving it unto Caesar. Though he was having the time of his life, Caesar couldn’t help but wonder, where was his twink buddy, Brutus? …

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            Et tu booty

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    So it reads like a Hollywood screenplay?

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    If this the research where they just asked a couple different LLMs to rate the texts?

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      The study is named and linked. The methodology is partly described.

      • chgxvjh [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        StoryScope

        Yes

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    I always knew dream sequences were hackneyed garbage; now science has proven it barthes-shining

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