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China’s wages grow by an average of 5% a year, 7% for the poorest workers. Compounding, wages double every 15 years.
https://tradingeconomics.com/china/wages
Real wage has gone up 4x in the past 25 years, more than any other country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw8SvK0E5dI
The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf
From 2010 to 2019 (the most recent period for which uninterrupted data is available), the income of the poorest 20% in China increased even as a share of total income. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SI.DST.FRST.20?end=2019&%3Blocations=CN&%3Bstart=2008
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I feel like they’ll dismiss whatever you say with some 19th century type screed about scheming orientals to explain why you should distrust trust any fact about China which even slightly challenges their worldview
Over 90% of Chinese people own homes, versus 65% of Americans. Also they don’t have property tax.
Damn China did all this?
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Fucker is 80. His shitty opinions literally don’t matter. Empire will keep doing empire things until internal contradictions and resistance from within and without shake it apart. Theres no point trying to recruit him to the resistance and nothing he does will meaningfully obstruct it either. Just ignore him, honestly
i mean it probably isn’t worth the trouble, but in a situation like this you’re not posting to convince him, you’re posting to convince the audience
Eh, true enough. Certainly it’s best to at least mark that there’s disagreement and not just let them spew their nonsense unopposed. But I strongly believe a flippant dismissal (“sure, that’s why everyone in Washington is scared shitless of them overtaking us”) is better than graphs and Reddit arguments. That energy is better saved for family members who might have revolutionary potential - younger folks who’re looking at a poorer future than their planets had etc
Chinese Democracy
The overwhelming majority of people living in China say they are living in a democracy.
Most people in the United States say they do not.
These findings are part of a new study published by the Denmark-based Alliance of Democracies Foundation and Germany-based Latana data tracking firm. Part of the latest installment of the annual Democracy Perception Index published Monday, the study explores public opinions of democracy among 52,785 respondents across 53 nations and territories, including China and the U.S., surveyed between March 30 and May 10 of this year.
When asked whether they believe their country is democratic, those in China topped the list, with some 83% saying the communist-led People’s Republic was a democracy. A resounding 91% said that democracy is important to them.
But in the U.S., which touts itself as a global beacon of democracy, only 49% of those asked said their country was a democracy. And just over three-quarters of respondents, 76%, said democracy was important.
www.newsweek.com/most-china-call-their-nation-democracy-most-us-say-america-isnt-1711176
https://www.allianceofdemocracies.org/initiatives/the-copenhagen-democracy-summit/dpi-2022/
This one is my personal version of just pulling a gun on the person you’re arguing with
Ask them
WTF Happened In 1971?
And draw an arrow that is a few years off. They will love that.
just post the most inscrutable “get ready for the chinese century buddy” memes you can find
post them to hexbear too I wanna see them
I never have enough at hand
If you truly wish to humble him, don’t talk about China, don’t talk about any foreign country at all, get him to focus on his own shithole.
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poorest place on earth 20 years ago
this was true 70 or 80 years ago, but was it really poorest in 2006? I doubt it
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I wouldn’t even bother. If you have to get involved just list everything the us has ever done and ask them to come up with a list even a tenth the size.
They won’t be able to
The first step to this is to make sure they understand that Chinese people are human beings. They won’t care if the U.S. is “worse” if it’s done by ‘the enlightened good guys’.
They won’t care if the U.S. is “worse” if it’s done by ‘the enlightened good guys’.
It’s depressing how accurate this assessment is.
Maybe, but don’t meet them on their terms. Just repeatedly ask them to come up with a bigger list. It’s a stupid fucking game, so play like an idiot
China has a 90% home ownership rate, when he says ‘that doesn’t count the goverment can take it away at any time’ hit them with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain_in_the_United_States
Just post nonstop slammer edits
