• wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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    Holy fucking shit, not during the stupidest fucking administration in the history of the world NOT DURING THE STUPIDEST FUCKING ADMINISTRATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

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    This is the kind of existential dangers that AI poses. Not skynet, no rogue AI escaping, no AGI that decides another fate for us… it’s going to happen because of a stupid human mistake as we abandon our critical thinking abilities. One day we’re going to launch a nuke, or blow up something in the wrong country, not AI, us, blindly following the hallucinations of a billionaire’s toy.

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    Jesus! I can completely see the Terminator style thing happening. An AI can easily infer that this would be the US response if it provided this information and a malicious Skynet style one can already start global conflicts. They need to stop using this technology for such purposes.

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    Anyone letting a black box that cannot be audited make decisions should be immediately fired and barred from any leadership position for the rest of their lives.

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      look who is in charge. We can’t trust they didn’t make this call themselves and just blame the ai ffs.

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    I bet there’s some degree of sensationalist reporting here. It’s a bit too reminiscent of WarGames for me to believe this actually happened.

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      War Games was a computer planning planet destroying nuke attacks because it was taught to play chess and not tic tac toe. it needed to learn about pointless victory. This is a bunch of jackasses in a room buying a thinky box asking it questions and taking the answers seriously enough to go to war relieving themselves of the burden of thought and common sense. this isn’t War Games, it’s a classic Star Trek episode except Kirk never shows up to teach us that you can’t let a fucking computer program run your fucking military intelligence, because that’s INSANE. Why would you do that? you need multiple human eyes on everything going on, you can’t let a fucking language model do it for you… my god… it’s children doing their homework with AI, except their homework is the apparatus that used to enforce the rule of law on a global scale. granted, that was always a lie as it’s more the gun that enforced colonial interests, but still. a gun that decides it need to start shooting random people who could win a war against us depending on the lines drawn and the time frame is a pretty dangerous thing to let go.

      • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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        Petrov is a man who took enormous risk in the name of common sense and humanity. He should be honored by all people.

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          I think it’s pretty wild that not only is there a man who saved the world, but most people don’t even know his name.

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      “This reminds me of a movie I once saw, so I’m going to believe it didn’t happen.” LOOOLLL

      What a world you must live in.

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    oh my fucking god

    just dial the doomsday clock to 1am, because we’ll probably miss it anyway if it’s up to a few morons and glorified predictive text, both seemingly in “fucking kill everything” mode

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      It doesn’t help that the people currently in charge are fucking stupid, trigger happy, and emotionally insecure.

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      Right it’s not that it’s a killer sentient machine, it’s that it’s a faulty statistical model that outputs incorrect stuff all the time and credulous morons believe it uncritically (or even automate a response based on that inherently inaccurate output).

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      The only solution is to give the firing codes to the AI. That way we don’t acccidentally use them.

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      Yeah the more these AI companies are making AI seem the scary boogeyman, the more probable it is some disaster is going to happen because people put too much stock into it. Like the school bombing.

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      it won’t be AI’s fault, it’ll be capitalism’s. Still, that being said; I hope it happens and we all get what we deserve.

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        I’m with you. When we allowed trump to get elected for a second time a imply because bargain, his opponenynhad a fucking vagina, i gave up. Bought a car that is fun ton drive be and gets 10 mpg, and started actually enjoying my life while I still can.

        Fuck these fucking fuckers. They cant be bothered to vote, they don’t deserve a functioning world.

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            To believe that man has any intentions behind is actions is wild. He’s easier to steer than a toddler with sugar treats. Someone told him to do it, everyone else complained, he tripled down to own the libs. He has no long term plans there, someone else might, but unless you can tell me who…we cant really assume assumptions. My guess is Putin told him to do the Greenland thing to destabilize nato

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            Nah, it seems much more likely to me that he’s all about the resources there and making money from them, as well as controlling the and projecting power from the entire hemisphere around US soil.

            Ballistic missile defense may have been something he heard from someone, but I seriously doubt he makes strategic considerations and decisions like that, at least as a or the primary aspect.

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            Occupying Greenland and the Canadian arctic was almost entirely about detecting bombers coming over the pole. Subs and ICBMs made those bases useless. But Trump could literally think it’s 1965.

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      A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?"

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    I wonder when does the AI also hallicunate the sources such as webpages, pdfs, reports to prove its hallucinated point.

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      Not far. Current LLMs have kinda stubbornness. They cling to their own conclusions even after you told them they are wrong. So if you ask them for proof, then most times they come up with something that’s convincing.

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        When- they don’t have “stubbornness“- they have a weights set (a weighted probbility table) and a training model (a text file filled with compressed text coordinates) that the llm cant write to to give positive feedback to the weights. It’s less of a matter of “convincing“ and more of an issue of “making the resulting statement logically concurrent with the probability table thats inbuilt into the system by injesting stack overflow vote talley, reddit posts voted most popular” - that makes it hard to “convince”. Since making those weights is very expensive (an energy intensive), the developers usually incorporate the old model into the new one. TLDR: yet again, lazy programming, google up: the y2k date folks in the 70’s.

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          It’s not “weights” they dont weigh anything - they’re parameters.

          See how obtuse thst sounds? They do have a stubbornness, we all know it’s just silicon chips and copper. It can still be stubborn like a stripped screw can be stubborn.

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          another point. the ‘diversity’ in the system is running the model 10k times within the same model, that’s like saying you have a brain trust of 10k experts, except it’s just 10k copies of Gary. they seriously lack creative skills and abstract thought processes because they’re a very complex monoculture with no diversity in the models. and the reason that don’t have 10k unique models running is because that would be incredibly complicated and time consuming and this is a product to sell, not a need being filled.

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        You know the thing where AI companies describe their alignment direction as “Honest, Harmless, Helpful”?

        The only one that’s marketable to the idiots buying AI services is Helpful. So that’s always top priority even when it goes against the other two.

        Average decider wouldn’t stand an “assistant” that sometimes answers “I don’t know”. So instead agent providers train their already hallucination-prone model to be 100% confident in whatever it says. Who cares if it’s true if it looks like it is?