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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to World News@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 1 year ago

I expect we'll be seeing more and more calls for austerity all over western media going forward.

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I expect we'll be seeing more and more calls for austerity all over western media going forward.

www.telegraph.co.uk

☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmygrad.ml to World News@lemmygrad.mlEnglish · 1 year ago
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The welfare-addicted West is too decadent to rearm itself, let alone Ukraine
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While Russia’s might grows, Western Europe can find only pennies to spend on defence
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  • lorty@lemmygrad.ml
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    In the case of shells, the problem isn’t money, it’s lack of production capacity. Even the mighty USA, owner of the largest military-industrial complex in the world, can only produce 28,000 rounds of 155mm per month – less than 10pc of what Ukraine needs – and this with its factories on 24-hour operation.

    Maybe libs should read this.

    Who am I kidding, they’ll still call anything that says the west isn’t the best Russian propaganda or whatever.

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      amazing how all the mainstream western media is full of Russian propaganda all of a sudden :)

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      Hear me out, the part where it says “While Russia’s might grows” seems pretty propaganda to me. Those poor morons are being cut off from world trade and their shell production capacity is still below their own demands in the Ukraine war even after they ramped up production 2.5x and produce 7x as much as the USA.

      Plus, their plane jamming and other attacks on EU nations they’re not even at war with doesn’t seem like responsible foreign policy in the slightest. Even ISIS-K is invading Russia and more of their neighbors keep joining NATO.

      It’s the opposite of growing in power, they’re about to fuck around and find out.

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        One of the wealthiest nations in the world which won’t even provide free school meals to children: “we need to cut welfare and spend more on war!”

        Libs: those damn Ruskies are gonna find out now, fuck yeah!

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          Lmao, does talking about the flaws of a random nation make you feel better about the militaristic dictatorship losing a war they started over mineral resources to a tiny neighbor?

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            I’m talking about the article in the OP published by one of the leading right wing UK publications you daft removed.

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        It’s the opposite of growing in power, they’re about to fuck around and find out.

        COPE HARDER, NATO bootlicker.

        copium

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          The irony

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            It’s not ironic for the silverware to call the kettle black.

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        Rule number one. When you run out of banjo, stop picking.

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        You realize that “world trade” is not just Europe/NA?

        Tho you’re right on it being propaganda, it is fascist propaganda to push for more military spending in Europe.

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        Pro-Russia propaganda by the British? 🤡

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    The welfare-addicted West

    The poor are strangers even in their own country

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      Always were.

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    • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      LMAO

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        That’s certainly a take

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      a right removed if I’ve ever seen one

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      Funny, I know some folks who legit think that

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      Same author, no surprise.

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    I mean the EU is pretty straightforward about their members having to do austerity policies the next years. I think Belgium has to cut like 30+ billion euro. Our public systems are already falling apart due to lack of funds. I expect a mass call to privatisation across the entire EU in the coming years. US 2.0.

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      That’s right, Europeans will finally get to enjoy the same kinds of freedoms US workers have been enjoying.

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        Luckily unions are still a thing

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          Once upon a time we had unions here too.

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          Indeed, people are going to be rediscovering the reasons workers need collective bargaining in a hurry.

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          For now.

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            I dunno we must not act helpless. Our unions have over 3 million members. That’s over 60% of all working people. They can really organize a lot of people in a short time.

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              I’m not suggesting acting helpless. But if they can breakup the benefits and gains the unions won in past victories while the unions exist, then it does suggest that either they can break the unions themselves or they can render them so weak that it won’t even matter if they exist.

              That does mean people need to organize and take action, but the best moment to do that for non-revolutionary unions is probably before the gains are lost.

              Otherwise, European unions can end up in a similar situation to unions in the US.

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      How much more you reckon before we finally accept we need to divest from the yanks?

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        European countries don’t really get to choose. It’s a blood pact they signed when they chose to be American proxies against the barbaric asiatics rather seeking peaceful coexistence and redevlopment after WW2.

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    Same people will tell you the EU is not at war with Russia.

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    Read the headline as “warfare addicted” and thought “hey that’s unusually honest”

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      lol

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    Haha remember when you had to go to niche fascist websites to read about how The West has fallen into decadence and the underclasses must suffer and die so that we can rebuild our glorious might to defeat the omnipresent Enemy?

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      That niche looks nearly 1938 huge now.

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    is militarised austerity edible?

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      What was that slogan from back in the day? “Cannons instead of butter”

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      Some inject it right into their veins, dunno if that counts

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    “It’s for Ukraine guys, you wouldn’t want thet ebil orcs to win would you”

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    Hmm…

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      lol people are starting to catch on

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        Not just any people, Telegraph readers

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          you know the narrative is collapsing when…

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      magnifico

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    Well, the empire has got to bleed itself somehow

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    looks at picture at the top of the article… noticing that all of the places where there would usually be a patch are blank

    Hey! Somebody got smart enough to ask the Ukrainian soldiers getting their pictures taken to take off all their (questionable) patches…

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      lol I didn’t even notice that till you pointed it out

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      It’s kinda funny how they thought no one would care about the patches for such a long time

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        Back when the conflict started for the first few weeks here (Central Europe) on TV every program that featured Ukraine soldiers showed them with brown scotch tape on their upper arms. After a while they no longer gave a shit. Probably because they thought that the Wolfsangel would be unique enough for the commoners.

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      Also that man looks old.

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        burned through the young in two years, now they’re stuck with the older folks…

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    Found a new emoji.

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    LMFAO “while Russia’s might grows” bro is delusional.

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      The only people who are delusional are the ones who don’t understand how powerful Russian army has become over the past two years. Maybe educate yourself by reading what people with a clue have to say on the subject https://rusi.org/explore-our-research/publications/commentary/attritional-art-war-lessons-russian-war-ukraine

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        They can’t even win against a small nation like Ukraine after a drawn out 2 year long war.

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          A weird way to say that Russia is currently winning a proxy war against all of NATO as the article I linked clearly explains. I guess if you had any reading comprehension you wouldn’t be making these imbecilic comments in the first place though.

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            Them winning has yet to be seen, but using your homeland’s full military force to win a proxy war isn’t exactly a flex, either.

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              Lol you think they’re using their full military force??? 😂

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              Doesn’t sound like you have much respect or hope for Ukraine. It had one of the strongest militaries in the world and has been supported by the world’s most militarily advanced countries before and during the war. It’s not like, let’s say, a war against farmers armed with AKs living in rural communities in a desert, the mountains, or a jungle – you know, the kinds of enemies NATO/allies take 20 years to lose against.

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              😂

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          What do you consider a big nation, mate?

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            I think Ukraine’s 36 Million compared to Russia’s 147 Million puts things pretty well into perspective.

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              Alright, so not so much small as smaller than Russia. Of course that means there are only 10 or so nations that aren’t small. How absurd it is then for NATO to be losing to tiny Russia…

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                Ukraine isn’t a part of NATO, lol. If they were, the USA would be on Russia Shores from the Pacific, and Russia would be invaded by the other 5 NATO members who share a border with them at a minimum, potentially including Turkiye from across the Sea who alone have a top 10 standing for military and they have already backed Ukraine’s membership approval.

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                  I’m talking about the article. The United Kingdom isn’t Ukraine, and yet they’re talking about how they, the rest of NATO and Ukraine are losing to Russia at arms production.

                  Though the lessons translate to a hot war too. If you don’t have bombs to lob, you have to stop lobbing bombs.

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      Why do we even bother talking to these people… like this one is clearly not in lemmygrad on good faith

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        Because they’re bots and a bot administrator whose full time job is to shill for dictatorships.

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          Did you just call yourself a bot?

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            Looks like a funny Freudian slip from that smug liberal

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      We got a live one fellas

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        I don’t think so, these seem like AI generated reddit comments. 0 originality.

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          I would’ve thought so too if I hadn’t met enough of these irl already

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            Ah, thankfully I don’t live in the US, so I don’t have to see them live. Sounds incredibly obnoxious.

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              Ah, thankfully I don’t live in the US

              Neither do I, yet I still encounter these types 😬

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