I miss cycling. I live in the middle of goddamned nowhere, so driving in mandatory to get anywhere relevant. I hate that this is the case, but there’s just about fuck all I can do about it.
I will comment that I take issue with bikes being “cheap”. If you ride a bike even remotely seriously, your bike is not cheap… It might not be expensive, but you quickly realize why cheap bikes are cheap.
If you ride a bike even remotely seriously, your bike is not cheap… It might not be expensive, but you quickly realize why cheap bikes are cheap.
Spot on. I’ve got about $3k into my bike, but it’s not a fancy race bike (it’s a steel fixed gear), so I invested in bombproof parts that could end up outliving me. Once a year I’ll replace the tires/chain/brake pads, service the bearings, and strip/regrease a few parts, so the running cost is maybe $15/month. If you’ve got a road bike with a 2x drivetrain, or if you’re paying people to service your bike that might go up to $30/month, but still negligible compared to a car.
I live in Utrecht, The Netherlands. I can’t park anywhere, my bike will be removed if not stalled in a bike parking spot. I do need insurance, my bike was 4k. There are bike traffic jams sometimes. The rest is all true. No parking fees, no road tax, etc. Just a bit wet sometimes. But my city has one of the best, if not the best bike infrastructure in the world. It’s stupid it’s not standard everywhere.
“Equipped with this tool, man outstrips the efficiency of not only all machines but all other animals as well.”
Ivan Illich on the bicycle. Energy & Equity
It’s the symbol of freedom because kids in north America are locked up until they start to drive. Since you can’t walk or cycle without risking your life, parents have to drive their kids everywhere until they are old enough to drive. This then is perceived as liberation.
Of course car centric infrastructure is the reason you need to be driven in order to be safe. It’s the product of decade long lobbying by the car industry.
Freedom is not having to use cars. Having the choice to use cars or other methods of transportation.
Plus a car takes a bullet much better than a bike
Well I guess that’s another problem Europeans don’t have, but we’re not here to take your guns away!
Plus a car takes a bullet much better than a bike
I guess cars must feel like parole to kids who have been locked up.
I grew up in a place that was not even big on cycling, just not a hellscape like the US. We would go on crazy bike trips and barely find our way back home at like 14.
Some are. But unless they are in a truly rural area, that is just not true. According to recent numbers 80% of people in America live in urban areas.
Those urban areas, while often not designed for bicycles are a lot more frindly to bicycles then true rural areas. Saying kids are trapped untill they have a car wrong most of the time. Yeah they may have to bike or walk a few miles to get anywhere but that’s not a big deal.
The people living in true rural America truly do not have the ability to do so. But again, that’s less then a quarter of the populations and likely far less then a quarter of all kids.
We have a culture that prioritizes physical comfort above most other things. A car is more comfortable so that is what most people what to do.
I have lived in urban, suburban, and very rural places. Rural is my favorite and most comfortable to commute on bike even if some things are a long ride away. The concept of what’s “too far away” is very different depending on whether you ask someone who is afraid to get on a bike, vs someone who actually rides.
The people living in true rural America truly do not have the ability to do so. But again, that’s less then a quarter of the populations and likely far less then a quarter of all kids.
Counterpoint: I lived in an extremely remote part of Vermont (population 400) for a couple years without a car, and I got around fine on my bike. The trick was living close to my work, which was easy since housing was dirt cheap. That said, getting out of town was difficult, as the buses (Greyhound) were notoriously unreliable. I also got random people buzzing me in pickups screaming at me for existing once in a while.
So for people criticising with rain, wind, snow, and groceries - none of these are nearly the issues you think they are, and there are a wide variety of bike configurations and gear that address these challenges.
The real issue is having to share the road with cars. I’ve just had too many close calls, and the growth of self-driving vehicles makes me more nervous to be on the road than ever.
Because of cars I hate being on the road whether in a car or on a bike, and every car that passes by automatically makes me tense up these days. I hope a new Carrington event makes all of them useless.
Yes, weather is just a matter of gear, and these days the wet and cold weather gear is amazing. The best bike gear isn’t cheap, but it’s much cheaper than the typical repair on a car when something breaks. Panniers are an easy way to carry a lot of groceries with minimal effort. If someone has a huge family there are also cargo bike options. But, of course, with modern American cities, there might not be a grocery store in a reasonable biking range. There used to be mom-and pop grocery stores all over the place. And, in Europe it’s pretty common for there to be a small grocery store within a 5 minute walk of your house.
But, North American roads are designed only for cars. Bicyclists and commuters pay taxes to maintain roads, but the roads are built for cars and trucks. To really feel safe on a bike, you need separated bike lanes. You build those, and people will use them.
In many places in North America, a bike lane is merely a thin strip of pavement that’s centimetres from passing cars, and in the door zone of parked cars. Even in good weather that’s dangerous. In bad weather it’s truly awful. But, people still use those bike lanes. In fact, some people even bike and share the road with cars where the bike lanes don’t exist. That should be a clue that people are dedicated to cycling, and if you built actual good bicycle infrastructure, a lot of people would use it.
Bitch it’s negative 40 I’m not taking a bike. I’m not walking. That’s insane.
Most people aren’t driving in that weather either. Temperatures like that happen very rarely even in very cold places.
Well just keep on burning your fossil fuels, and you won’t have to worry about it getting that cold again :3
You are part of the less than 1% and probably not the target audience.
I’ve made bike commutes in those temperatures, and yeah, I would say it’s dangerous and most people shouldn’t do that unless they’ve got some kind of fully enclosed, motorized bike with active heating.
It is worth noting that with proper winter gear, since biking is more physically demanding than driving, it is possible and likely that most winter bike rides will cause you to generate enough of your own body heat that you might actually feel the need to remove your jacket. At negative 40? Absolutely not. But I’ve done so at temperatures as low as zero.
And to be fair, you shouldn’t be expected to drive at temps as low as negative 40 either. If you’ve got a long car commute and your car breaks down in the middle of nowhere, you are dead. At least with a bike-centric lifestyle it pressures you to prefer jobs that are closer to home, so it might actually be less dangerous.
Where the fuck do you live that it gets -40?? Antarctica??
Negative 40 (yay, I don’t have to clarify whether it’s Celsius or Fahrenheit!) is navigable. Take proper clothing!
Source: living and walking in a northern city
until it’s not, i wouldn’t want to be out in that at all
anything past like -10 is crazy cold
I don’t share the road, I take the road. You will overtake me like you would overtake a car, plus it gives me the space I need to swerve around the craters in the road. Some roads are bumpier than Paschendale.
Vehicular cycling is a bad meme
I used to do that, then a car flew by and damn near killed me.
People generally don’t like losing their license here
Could have fooled me, given how utterly stupid motorists routinely get every time they drive around bicyclists.
Traffic accidents happen so frequently it is one of the top causes of yearly deaths. Humans are not responsible enough to deserve to drive.
That’s exactly how I arrived at this theory. Went on a particularly nice bike ride last summer and suddenly remembered that feeling of freedom I got from owning my first bike.
i grew up in Barcelona with a bike.
never in my life I’ve felt that sense of freedom.
even with a car. not even close
sore bum tho
some pay lots of money to get someone to get their bums sore.
so another bonus
With an appropriate seat, this is not a problem, even in regular clothes. For longer rides, bicycle shorts are recommended, which are padded to avoid saddle discomfort.
Recumbent, like being in a recliner on wheels.
Get a better seat.
Soft seats actually cause more discomfort. You’ve been warned
Or use more lube
Plus, as we’ve seen, it is much easier to escape the secret police on a bike
Unless the secret police have bikes as well!
The American ones don’t
I’ve seen a couple cops (RCMP) on bikes in my city. They definitely didn’t seem to be really comfortable on the bikes. Would definitely be easier to lose them in a bike chase than a car chase.
Cops dont like work, moving, being away from car.
real freedom is heelys
I don’t miss falling on my face… that would probably hurt a lot more now than it did two decades ago.
You guys have zero understanding of America.
The only way this will even get started is if there’s a push for motorcycles over cars. Thats a good middle ground.
People in every city between LA and New York will laugh at you for trying to use a bike for daily activities. Shit is just too far apart. Which is fine with me, I dont like neighbors, im loud and dont like people watching me in my yard. Probably autistic.
Mmk but it sounds like you prefer a more rural, removed from city kind of lifestyle, so yeah it would make sense to still have cars in those situations. But more dense areas like cities and towns bikes still absolutely makes sense, adding to consideration trains.
People in every city between LA and New York would greatly benefit from better public facing transit, and would laugh at the idea everyone is going to begin riding around on motorcycles.
I agree.
However I cant think of a single person in my life who would choose public transit even if it was available more. Im sorry but the ugly truth is, it’s dirty, smells, loud, and the people on it are often on drugs (notice im not saying we need to deport and kill homeless people, some people think im saying this but I am just speaking from experience here). Public transport is not the utopia people think it is. Unless you have security and 24/7 cleaning, humans will ruin it (like everything).
This tells me you haven’t been to Europe
Noy yet! Im sure its much better there. There’s really no hope for American public transport. Too many assholes.
Well I haven’t given up hope
Sounds like a skill issue on your part.
Mostly the urban design skill :-)
If you’re not actively trying to push for designs that promote more walkability and bikability; and instead contributing more to our motor-centric nightmare, then please do everyone a favor and quit your job.
My city is expanding too fast and is too spread out. They refuse to design it better so there’s nothing I can do. Suburbia nightmare roads here.
Like I said, you can quit and stop being a part of the problem.
Car go fast
Snow and rain, but mostly snow.
Hills. I’m 60, and not getting younger, my knees are going.
Some people just can’t. But, when I could, I did.
I love the deluge of people trying to convince you to use a bike anyway. I’m getting old and live where it can hit -20° or worse, with snow and ice. Cold is almost half the year. There’s no fucking way I’d ride a bike for almost two hours each way in the cold when I have to go into the office, over a nice heated 18 minute car ride. Plus every day I bring a bag to and from the office, and some days 2-3 bags of stuff I pick up to bring home. I keto on that here or when I was on Reddit and some asshole will inevitably be like “YOU CAN HANDLE THE COLD AND ICE AND FOUR HOURS OUT KF YOUR DAY UR JUST WEAK” and those people are bad people I don’t like.
ride a bike for almost two hours each way … [or a] 18 minute car ride.
That’s the problem we want to fix.
I am SOOOOO with you when it comes to that sentiment. I shouldn’t have a 18 minute car ride that’s also a two hour bike ride. That’s fucked up.
Have you thought about getting an ebike instead? My old folks got a pair and it completely changed the game for them
Telling Grandma/grandpa to use an ebike in the snow or in lethal wet bulb temperatures isn’t a real solution. It’s great that it worked for your folks but it cannot work for mine.
The air can be so saturated with water that you cannot evaporate sweat which is the primary way your body sheds heat.
It is unsafe for anyone, let alone the elderly, to travel in these conditions unless you have a vehicle with climate control.
Yes when that happens don’t leave the building, whatever reason. Transportation is inadvisable. But that happens rarely.
You don’t even have to be old. Ebikes are car replacements and can tow children, groceries, and furniture with ease. They flatten hills, get you to work on time and without sweat, and significantly extend the realistic travel radius around your home/work/last transit stop. Expect to pay pennies to recharge it, rather than two or three figures for a full tank of gas.
Any fitness benefits you get are just a cherry on top. Ebikes just make it so much easier to skip the car trips in your village or city.
“tow furniture with ease” is complete bullshit lmao
Have you seen the new electric motors coming out? 120 nm of torque is a lot.
My ebike has 80nm of torque, and that’s enough to hit 21% grade hills at 9mph. On flats, that’s enough to lift 235 lbs and do a wheelie, haha.
It doesn’t necessarily mean fast, but it does mean it can haul gear.
tow a couch with a bike and tell me its easy, e bike or no
also i have a couple decent e bikes and theyre sick but i straight up would never move furniture with them lol
Depends a bit on the furniture, a couch wouldn’t even fit in my car. But a futon or some leather barstools? Absolutely.
Also family and groceries.
I wouldn’t ask my 9YO on a bike at 7:30 am on winter to go to school everyday. Also no family trips. The place we go to the most is on the other side of mountains 3 hours away by car.
Groceries would have to be more regular. I currently fill the car and go like once a month or month and a half
I know this might sound pedantic but I will try to write with love. 90% of the world population buy groceries weekly or more often. Many European countries buy fresh food on the daily. Yes, from the grocery downstairs, or across the road. Car centric urban design fucked you up. It’s built for the car, not for human beings. Your perception and expectations are completely out of wack with normal human existence.
For example, Costco style mega stores are not a thing in almost all of the world. No, no one needs a 3 year supply of mustard for a family of 4. Most businesses don’t need a heavy duty truck, why would a middle class family need one just to get to the school and office. You don’t need a 4x4 for the two trips a year you take to the mountains, on an asphalt road.
It’s all bizarre, it is all out of proportion. But it is not a personal failure, oil corporations and car manufacturers created this weird mar on the planet that is suburban sprawl and car dependent infrastructure. We just live with the consequences.
I wouldn’t ask my 9YO on a bike at 7:30 am on winter to go to school everyday
Why not? In a lot of the world that’s pretty normal.
When I was a kid I walked 30-40 minutes to and from school in the winter. I would have preferred to bike, but they didn’t clear the bike lanes. In places in Europe they make plowing the bike lanes a priority, so everybody can count on being able to commute by bike.
The place we go to the most is on the other side of mountains 3 hours away by car.
You shouldn’t have to rely on a car to get somewhere that’s that far away. It’s more reasonable to take a train to get that kind of distance.
Groceries would have to be more regular. I currently fill the car and go like once a month or month and a half
Do you not like fresh food? Do you ever eat fruit or vegetables? Or meat that hasn’t been frozen?
You’re aware that families in europe go on family trips by taking the train across the mountains? That’s part of the problem, you americans don’t like to think far beyond your horizon (cars). Or maybe you just can’t imagine what a city would look like that is built for pedestrians and public transportation.
I’m from Latin america. There is a single train that goes through my city and has only a few stops. I’d love to take the train. It just doesn’t take me where I need to go. Heck I’ve been looking for an excuse to take one for months
Ah sorry, maybe my restriction to the US of A was wrong, I apologize for expluding central/south america that seems to have the same problem.
You can just take some other transportation for long trips.
Cars and bikes take you wherever you want, whenever you want. Cars are just faster.
Other transportation methods don’t go whenever nor whenever.
Cars are not perfect. And for short trips don’t make sense. But they are the most useful.
The only level head in this thread lol.
Im convinced most people on here live in a closet sized apartment and buy 1 bag of groceries a week. Its sad.
I just used my car to go 3 blocks away and I’m so disappointed in myself.
Also the way back was like 10 blocks
If you measure in blocks and not miles, youre already likely in bike country! Im at least a 15 min drive from any grocery. So an hour bike.
I don’t measure in miles because I live in a metric country. So I used blocks that we all understand.
I have a lot of options for gfocieries nearby. They are just more expensive than the large sellers. ( 3 in a 2 block radius)
I used my car today to go about 2km away. I picked up a couple heavy packs of drinks, a box of litter, and and five bags of groceries. The travel maybe cost me 1USD. There is no fucking way I could lug all of that home for my family with something that isn’t a car.
I am not disappointed in myself. I just have to play with the cards I’m dealt.
Cars are also a major contributor to the climate crisis and exacerbates social issues like increased anxiety via noise pollution and social isolation.
Wheels with spikes work pretty well if it comes to hard packed snow and ice. Normal mointainbike wheels work well enough for me in the snow though, I was always just a bit careful and nothing ever happened so far.
So many thoughts on this from an American perspective:
- Bikes as a standard in all cities and towns, make it walkable and bike-able, I believe this is possible and will benefit everyone.
- High-speed rail for those bigger gaps. Period.
- Cars for those who still find it necessary or prefer rural lifestyle.
…easy as 1,2,3!
Bikes are cool and all, but no AC. And no good for a 40 mile highway commute. I also enjoy comfy seats and being able to easily and comfortably transport multiple people with a nice sound system etc…
And no good for a 40 mile highway commute.
Your infrastructure sucks.
You’re not wrong, but am trapped here. 🧐 Bikes will still never be as comfortable or have entertainment like a car unfortunately. There’s just something different about driving and playing music.
What’s even better is sitting in an even-more-comfy chair, listening to a better stereo system… at home.
What’s interesting is that when everybody went to remote work during the pandemic, lots of bike commuters would start their day with a ride to the office and back, because the ride itself was fun. I didn’t hear of car commuters doing that, or people at any time enjoying the process of commute driving. We have to add plush lounge chairs and entertainment systems and sensory-friendly interiors to cars to make the experience somewhat palatable, and even then, the distraction of a phone is irresistible for many drivers. Hell, the tech bros promise that they can even automate away the actual driving part, and people are excited by the prospect.
Sounds to me like a car will never hold a candle to a simple bike as far as enjoyment.
Headphones exist.
And confort of trains will always be categorically better because you literally only have to get in and do nothing until you’re there.
I feel like you’re arguing with someone that’s actually on your (our) side here… Trust me, this doesn’t sound like the guy that agrees with an extra lane replacing a sidewalk, or the guy that hates the tram line that takes up a lane…
We should consider not being this aggressive in our speak with someone that’s actually a friend…
Just dodge the screaming homeless people, tweakers and the occasional pile of vomit.
Transit quality is region dependent. If you’re not fortunate enough to live in an area where transit is well looked after it is not “categorically better.”
This is true but it only shows that transit is seriously underfunded and treated as the bad step child in many areas, something which could theoretically be changed easily.
You are absolutely correct there.
I do my best to vote for better parties man, but I am out-numbered by the stupids who think the answer to fixing problems caused by conservative governments is to elect more conservatives.
During a year where there was a transit stabbing every other week, our mayor took a trip on transit to “combat the perception that transit is unsafe.” She had a full police escort… They’re more concerned with optics than with actually solving problems.
Cars do have the advantage of seats being comfier. I say this as a person without a drivers license that enters a car maybe twice a year.
Having to concentrate on driving does seem worse than just being able to sleep though
Headphones are nowhere near equivalent to good stereo. I don’t hate bikes, I just think cars are better and more enjoyable to use in general. I’m a bit lazy, also, to be honest. I don’t want to have to exercise to get wherever I’m going all the time.
There are bone conducting or open ear headphones if you need music.
A car is comfortable, yes, but a bike is too. If it’s not it’s the wrong bike for you - or your bikefit sucks.
Yeah im sure all the trams and busses go exactly where I need them to.
Also, you cant carry anything with a bike outside of a few grocery bags.
Im all for bikes. But cars are insanely useful . what needs to happen is banning of anything larger than a Ford focus, special license required for a pickup (unless its a tacoma size) and better infrastructure supporting bikes and cars together.
Me driving around in my 99 miata is the least of our car problems. Its soccer moms in 100,000 pickups that they are almost always driving alone and never hauling a thing.
My town is 200k, and there’s no way you could bike around it, there’s no shoulders or sidewalks on most roads. Thats a problem of city planners being absolute dumb shits.
By those metrics, a tram wins.
Cars are obviously good for long distances but maybe cars could be banned from city centres (perhaps with exceptions for disabled people who rely on cars, and goods vehicles should probably be allowed). For getting around a city, people can use public transport, or bicycles, or their feet to walk.
Also in cases where cars are used, electric cars are probably a good idea because it results in cleaner air.
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I wish our downtown banned them. They take up the whole damn downtown and are way too big now for the original main street.
My town is too spread out to not use any vehicles, and we have 2 huge interstates going through it. Not bikeable.
This doesn’t work if you have any distance to go. I spent 8 years without a car, and I’ll never do that again. I love my bike, but no.
That’s… What you have trains for. If you have proper public transit, that need is covered. Oh, and you can get shit done while you’re on the train. Or sleep. Or relax.
I really wish most places had better public transit.
A major city near me ends public transit at midnight, despite most late night venues being open much later than that… And their transit system is “good” by comparison to what’s in cities nearby me, and I’m still a 15 minute drive from any of them (at least). It would take me most of the day to commute to the nearest major city by bike/public transit.
Still… I wish.
Because you lived in a car centric shit hole with no backbone rail.
Fucking car brain infrastructure blindness is so reliable. Like you can’t see the massive constant costs of car infra, you think the roads never need repair and fuel just fucking appears, engine repairs aren’t orders of magnitude more expensive than anything else, and there’s no opportunity cost to other modes of transit, but laying an inch of track or cutting bike trails is just so fucking expensive. You are the problem with the world. You are why we have climate change. You are why everything is so fucking shit and everything everyone owns spies on all of us.
Please stop. Please just fucking stop. You can’t see shit, your experiences are not valid, your instincts are the products of ad campaigns, and you are reliably aggressively spectacularly incorrect in harmful ways. Please stop having opinions, stop voting, stop speaking on any topic you are hostile to the concept of understanding.
If you’re determined to never think or observe, please defer in matters of reality to those who at least try.
This is some high tier deranged posting.
Nice.
You know how LLMs have a context window and use it to predict the next word? This guy’s brain works like that, but with a context of emotion instead of words, and it can only store 3 tokens.
Oh? What doesnt track?
The words tracked. You just seemed to have gotten stuck in a feedback loop of emotion where your rage reminded you you were angry, which made you more angry.
Cool. Tell me what I’m wrong about and how.
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Their mod log really says a lot lol
Oh I would love to read that—is there an easy way for me to see that? I only use Voyager, so I’m a bit of a noob here.
Found this through Google: https://lemmy.world/modlog
Seems to only show a few of the actions though. Might be because .world gets defederated more often.
Yeah, mostly without citing the text or attributing anythibgvto an author, but what’s that got to do with what I’m saying here?
They have 5,297 comments within the last 5 months.
That’s 35 comments a day for like the past half year.
I browse at work and am chronically online but shit, that’s still a crazy amount.
That’s… really something. Their posts are unhinged.
What are your faves?
schizo-posts
No need to add the ableism in there.
Pretty sure there is. Not much of an ad hominem without it.
Yeah that’s fair, didn’t mean to be like that but a mod didn’t like it and deleted it so I can’t edit. Just used to using old internet slang, and I often forget there’s places here that really don’t like that kinda thing—my apologies.
Dude that is some insane response there.
How so?
Edit: oh shit, you got nothing, do you?
I feel this comment in my bones.
Lol, same! Or, you know, thwt’s just the various metal pins in them from when i had to be scraped off a crosswalk all those times because some asshole was drunkenly looking at their phone and I have huge numb spots and bulges(uwu?) in 3/4 limbs
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This doesn’t work if you have any distance to go.
Many parts of the world don’t require people to go more than at most 10km for almost any reason, ever. I assume you’re American, in which case you’re totally right. Broken country designed only for cars.
I mean it’s not really that it’s a shit country designed only for cars. It’s also a rather huge country that you can travel quite a ways to get to whatever you’re needing to do.
The USSR covered 11 time zones, and at a less severe latitude the sun would not have set on its continental mass. It was and ts successor is more rural than the united States. For all the many many many many problems it had, this was not one of them.
This is a problem, like school shootings, that Americans choose to have. Presumably because Americans are orcs.
You are wrong, everything you believe is propaganda lies, and you are hostile to even the idea of understanding the real world because you value your delusions more highly. Stop spreading lies.
This entire thread could be bound in hardcover and published under the title American Realism.
Other huge countries have trains for this.
I mean we have trains also but just like those countries also have cars and infrastructure we also have cars and infrastructure. The amount of time it takes for a train to go from point a to point b is quite often much longer than what it takes for a car to get to point a to point b. They’re oftentimes where I work 3 to 400 mi away in a single day I can literally get up in the morning drive out there do a job complete it and drive back and be back at my house by that evening. There is no way on a train I could get up make it out there with all of my tools completed job and make it back to my house at any time in a single day.
I mean we have trains also
No, we really don’t. We used to, and then automotive companies bought our country, killed all the passenger trains, and redesigned every city to require cars.
Yes, the idea that America has trains I think really betrays that this user doesn’t really know any other type of infrastructure than broken car-centric bullshit. Not blaming them, that’s just what you get in America.
I mean we have trains also but just like those countries also have cars and infrastructure we also have cars and infrastructure. The amount of time it takes for a train to go from point a to point b is quite often much longer than what it takes for a car to get to point a to point b.
Not actually correct with high speed rail. Also, you’re talking about a work vehicle which is obviously a different category from a commuter vehicle and not at all the subject of this post.
Motorbike.
Vroom
That’s what made me an ebike evangelist. Someone on hexbear once described cars as using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. Most of my car trips were a walnut. >50km, but Colorado’s topography and weather made biking so miserable that I’d drive 2km to a grocery instead of biking. Adding a motor changed everything for distances like that. No matter how windy is I have a tailwind, no matter how steep it is the landscape is flattened. I ride home after a 10 hour shift in 35C heat doing hundreds of squats and it’s refreshing. For longer distances I still need my car but trips like that are so infrequent that I could rent a better car as-needed and still save money.
I mean on average I drive anywhere from 100 to 400 mi a day for what I do for work. And then my trips that I take can average 8 to 10 hours or more. And those are done several times a month as well. I went from going absolutely nowhere because I didn’t own a car and I only relied on bus train and bike to doing about 60 to 70,000 mi a year.
That’s a really extreme outlier case similar to why I still own my car, living in the American West and wanting a road trip vehicle. Hopefully you can find a job that doesn’t keep you sedentary for that long. A 400mi drive hurts like hell.
No I could easily have a job like that, I run my own company and I have freedom to do whatever I want to now and it is so much better than when I was sitting in an office staring out a window all day long. That was a slow death. 400 mi for me is nothing it’s literally a day’s work. Hell even within the city that I live in there’s days like last Friday where I drove almost 400 miles in a single day.
