• Infamousblt [any]@hexbear.netM
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      That’s the thing we really need to drive home. This specific battle was won, but the war is still on. All this proves is what the working class has already known for generations; when we fight, we win

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        Prior to WWI, routes were the most common way people died on battlefields. It wasn’t during charges into muskets and cannons. It was when one side panicked and literally got stabbed in the back as they tried to run away.

        People really don’t like dying and will avoid doing dangerous things that potentially get them killed. But when the panic sets in, they stop thinking and are in pure survival mode. This results in complete disorganization where an organized opponent has an opportunity to do as much damage as possible.

    • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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      That’s basically getting fired in politics. The government version of the golden parachute. Demote the person to some previous or otherwise far less influential role because it would be too damaging to the political brand or government to outright get rid of them. That’s why Mike Waltz is in the UN after the signalgate leaks with regards to US military operations in Yemen. It’s how institutions counter the Peter principle. Corporate with the golden parachute type deals, government with these demotions.

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    They’re likely replacing him with White House Border Tsar Tom Homan, who argued way back when he was helping Obama deport 3 million people, that children and parents should be separated as a deterrent. Won a medal for that shit. When he worked for Trump he got to start making that happen.

    Helped write Project 2025 and hangs out with Proud Boys.

    They’re replacing Bovino with somebody worse, at least until they can find an actual werewolf to take over, so Homan can return to his job in the White House of watching ICE blooper reels with Vance, Noem, Hegseth and Rubio, laughing heinously at CCTV videos taken inside child concentration camps

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        Homan is probably more of a career bureaucrat, so he’s probably there to enforce stronger discipline among the agents while still carrying out the core missions, make the agency’s operations more efficient, and move through this current political crisis. Its possible, even likely, that Homan had criticisms of the way the agency was being run by Bovino, because the shock doctrine being employed by the admin is backfiring. Moderate conservatives have been on an anti-trump trajectory, its in the air if not already settled in to a lot of people. The murders in Minneapolis has shocked even more of these people who make up a significant chunk of Trump’s base.

        There’s always two sides. This version of ICE under Trump is a way to create the one crucial element that the fascist right has been lacking: the friekorps (in the 20th century context). In Europe there were all these soldiers who were traumatized during WW1. As fascism began to ascend from the mid 20s - early 30s, there was a nascent army upon which could be built an oppressive force for the ambitions of the Nazi party. In the USA we didn’t have much of this, little rural militias are prevalent but not enough to seize power. So ICE is a way to train people to be fascists in more than just ideology, it trains people to fight, organizational discipline, and let’s the admin work out the kinks. To a large extent, they want these ICE soldiers clashing with resistance, in order to train them. They’ll catch enough of the proud boys and militia guys anyway, dont have to deal with a thousand little armed fiefdoms.

        The other side is that it trains us as well. And no matter what, theres going to be more of us. So there’s a balance to be struck. Carry out the mission, but dont accidentally create an effective counter force. I think there is an understanding among some more strategic minds, that resistance could be much more organized than we are, and the reasons we aren’t more organized are ideological. They can’t give too many people a practical impetus to organize collectively, so they’re sending the bureaucrat. Bureaucracy hides injustice behind laws, and cruelty behind orders.

        They need to scale back the appearance of mayhem without scaling back the mayhem itself. At least thats what I think is going on.

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      I was honestly thinking that. Trump loves xinternet because he is tall and has aura. Bovino literally assembled a personal guard of five foot three soldiers to make himself look taller, and Trump probably hates the optics of that.

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    Noem at risk too. Trump’s systems moving to separate him and his team from the policies and people they created.