The truth on the other hand, is the unshakable reality that has driven every sanction, every sabotage attempt, and every assassination plot since 1959: Cuba is a threat only to an idea. It is a threat to the imperial doctrine that a small, poor nation in America’s ‘backyard’ must not be allowed to choose socialism, to provide free healthcare and education, and homes to live without the permission of Washington.
For this sin of self-determination, the crime of building a society where capital is not god, Cuba has been punished with the most enduring economic siege in modern history. This is not an ‘embargo’, which I consider to be a sterile, political term. It is a total blockade, designed to constrict and cripple. It is enforced by a plethora of laws with names like the Helms-Burton Act, which terrorises foreign companies from trading with the Island and allows the US to seize ships in international waters. Its goal, as US politician Robert Torricelli once admitted, was to…
‘Wreak havoc’.
America: ill do it again
The fact that there has not been a unified Latin American defence coalition against the US formed is crazy to me. Us in the USA want (and more desperately need) liberation from our leadership.
Isn’t that why usa/cia do so much to keep them disablized?
B-b-b-bingo
The fact that there has not been a unified Latin American defence coalition against the US formed is crazy to me.
There has been one. It’s just composed of imperial powers and their corporate proxies.
The defense coalition existed to intercede against slave revolts, anti-colonial nationalism, and Communist uprisings. It has been very successful.
Us in the USA want (and more desperately need) liberation from our leadership.
Join the club
Wanting and having the will to do what needs doing are different things.
That is true. A significant number of people are though in Minnesota. I am working to spread the GS to other states but I am very far away from Minnesota.
Charity begins at home, mate.
What the US is doing right now? It goes further back…
Ebough damage has been done in these last decades. This is dangerously becoming a full blown USA genocide of the Cuban people. It’s unacceptable.
“People in socialist countries starve because we starve them”
Why the quotes?
I’m saying the US basically says this.
I had no problem with Cuba. Nice place to visit in winter. No Americans.
“One of”. This is US history we’re talking about - the bar is in orbit.
And because all of this shit they have been throwing on the Cuba, they can claim socialism doesn’t work.
Small Island nation resists the world’s largest and most advanced military for 70 years. Develops state of the art health care system, modernizes energy and transportation, becomes a global tourist hotspot, all under US blockade
Socialism doesn’t work
Exactly!
And yet Cuba has higher life expectancy than the US lmfao
That can change quickly once US intervention goes hot
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Your joke is “haha Cuban people dying to sanctions is fun”? Not funny at all.
I would say resisting the 66 years of unceasing hybrid warfare from the biggest superpower in the world right next door is pretty good sign of resilient and working system.
That’s definitely a bonus for them
I hope and pray that the Cuban people stand together and persevere. May this be the final nail in the empire of evil.
I guess this is the best approach.
Add that to the endless list of war crimes that shithole empire did/does to rest of the world.
What what whaaaa??? I thought the US was a force for supreme goodness up until the millisecond that Trump became president.
This was most definitely the turning point. And just who were George Dubya, and Clinton, and Reagan, and Nixon, and goddamn Kissinger, and Robert McNamara, and the Dulles Brothers, and all the slave owners who founded the country?
A shining city upon a hill, manifest destiny, exceptionalism. Well-meaning promoters and protectors of democracy forever and always. Just what would the rest of the world do without you?
/s in case anyone actually needs it.
I think, based on conversations I have with people in real life and read online, that the people in the US haven’t challenged the 60 years of propaganda about Cuba, and believe it a totalitarian nightmare dictatorship.
I have a close friend who went to Cuba for ecological research (did you know they still have intact reefs) a few years ago, and when they would tell people they were going to Cuba, the most common reaction was a fearful “that’s scary” and a confused, almost accusatory “why”.
I don’t think they realize that everyone else can just go to Cuba, it’s only the blue US passport and a bunch of old white guys, and probably now more Cuban Americans, with their fear of communism and land reform stopping them from enjoying a very nice bottle of state owned rum and an experience of how other people live.
I’m glad other countries have been stepping up to help the people there, the Cuban people deserve happy and comfortable lives, and we clearly don’t have the appetite to stop starving them of that right now. Until we shake that propagandized view, I don’t imagine that will change either.
Obama I think floated an end to the shitbaggery during his second term. Like anything he proposed, it was stonewalled.
I think he actually lifted the travel embargo and aimed to normalize relations but the bazillionaires and still angry exbazillionaire diaspora faces started melting so 2016 was the end of that.
It is essentially genocide.
I don’t agree on this, but I do think it’s shaping up rapidly to become one. We will see in a couple of months, but any tropical cyclone or natural phenomena has a huge destructive potential in Cuba right now.
Please provide a definition so we can frame your argument.
I don’t know about that. Genocides don’t usually take 80 years, as the population grows. I don’t think that fits the description.
Genocides don’t usually take 80 years
Found the Israeli
Zionist.
Time period is irrelevant.
Intentionally disrupting a countries ability to prosper and sustain itself with the end goal being loss of lives of those citizens is still genocide.
Bombs or starving. Doesn’t matter the method.
Killing off civilians of a state is genocide.
Attempted genocideScrew my previous comment.
As FunkyStuff says, It is a genocide unquestionably. Millions of lives have been lost around the world due to US sabotage warfare (which the libs love to call “sanctions”) that uses the US hegemony power to strangle countries by any means necessary, all for the benefit of a fascist political agenda.
Cuba has received some of the harshest of the hybrid warfare from America. The fact that you are equivocating about the warfare tactics of a fascist society reflects poorly on you, no different from “but actually”-ing the actions of nazi Germany in the middle of WW2 (while also being factually wrong about your points).
The fact that Cuba can survive and thrive despite the genocide is a testament to their resilience. But a state, and a nation are not one entity. All the extra lives that could have been saved had Cuba been allowed to develop under normal external conditions do not come back to life because the population managed to grow.
That’s not how it works. If there’s an organized effort to exterminate a group of people because of their immutable characteristics (in this case nationality) it’s genocide. You can be guilty of the crime of genocide even if you don’t kill a single person. The US embargo absolutely meets the criteria and has already caused thousands of excess deaths (as well as underdevelopment) over the course of decades. It’s like Gaza, blocking off a group of millions of people from being able to get anything from the rest of the world and restricting the flow of basic necessities. They don’t have to kill any specific number of people for that to count as genocide, it just is.
Yeah I suppose it is better to have made an actual argument instead of just “owning” the commenter, and you are correct, it is not merely an attempted genocide, which would be something like a guy in the government trying to organise a genocide but failing to organise and accomplish anything.
Ok shitlib
This kind of ad hominem is not going to convince undecided people of your view
Not a Lib, loser.
What you say you are doesn’t matter. It’s what you believe and do that decides what you are. And you are running defense for the US genocide using the same tired talking points that are used to deny every genocide.
What we say or do or are doesn’t matter. Your need for strawmen does.
“strawmanning” is a rhetorical fallacy where you point out the logical conclusions that are to be drawn from a person’s statements <- you, an imbecile <- An actual strawman, but just barely.
Learn what the logical fallacies are if you want to throw them out, you moron
Im not the one conflating decades of “embargo” (still fucking horrendous btw) largely dictated by the economic choices of shipping companies whether to serve cuba or the U.S. (hint: companies that make money will choose the profitable option) with the recent extreme escalations by the Trump admin which are attempting to tighten it into a full blockade (which I shouldn’t need to tell you since they’ve been really fucking overtly vocal about their actions and intentions)
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The Cuban embargo made good political sense to pressure the Soviets when they were trying to use Cuba as a nuclear base to bomb us from, and any country would have done the same, in the face of the same threat.
- yeah the evil Soviets just wanting to bomb us for no good reason. Hey, when did the U.S. try to put nukes in Italy and turkey again? Oh, huh
) Dawg there’s a memo from the office of the secretary for inter american affairs from 1960 detailing the specific plan for the embargo to cause hunger, desperation and consequent counter revolution. Translation: “we’re going to starve Cuba until they do what we command”
The cuban missile crisis wasn’t until two years later. They intensified the embargo FEBRUARY 1962 and the missile crisis didn’t begin until the END of that year. But yeah sure uh the missiles after the fact totally justify an overtly stated goal of starving civilians for political change (hey what’s the definition of terrorism again btw)
going off about MAGA nonsense as if Joe Biden did anything to end the embargo
Oh my god, liberal. Liberal! Liiiiiiibeeeeerrrrraaaaaaallllll! As if your “actually putting missiles in cuba would have justified starving them” statement wasn’t enough confirmation on its own. Christ
Heh-heh, America isn’t the only place with ridiculous propaganda.
The Cuban embargo made good political sense to pressure the Soviets when they were trying to use Cuba as a nuclear base to bomb us from, and any country would have done the same, in the face of the same threat.
If you werent a lib you’d know that the US and NATO were the escalating/aggressing party, shitlib.
I do know that, and I also know that the whole thing was over and all bombs removed from both Turkey and Cuba by 1963. The embargo continued to keep Russia from re-arming Cuba, and it worked. However, after the fall of the Soviet Union, it should have been lifted. Continuing it has been cruel, and dumb, and both Republican and Democrat presidents are guilty.
For those who say it’s a hoax, look up videos of any Cuban on YouTube and turn on the subtitles.
Name a worse diaspora than Cuban Americans. Israelis don’t count
South African
colonialistsdiaspora in piSSreal is borderline the most Satanic of the lot out thereVenezuelans in Spain
Iranian diaspora gives them a run for their money
The Hawaiian diaspora is the most severe in the entire world when viewed per capita. More Hawaiians have been forced out of Hawai’i than any other group of people have been forced out of anywhere else
Plus the US quite literally holds massive amounts of Hawaiian lands that were seized when the US overthrew the Hawaiian monarchy, and could easily return that land to the Hawaiian people, it just chooses not to do it. Mostly by refusing to recognize any Hawaiian leadership and treating them on par with how other US native people are treated. If native Hawaiians had a recognized government the way indigenous peoples on the mainland do, the government would have to turn that land over. So they refuse to recognize
I think they meant in terms of behavior and attitude toward the homeland, but I can be wrong.
