No warning, not even a “Don’t do it again email” - I had a work account, that was logged in on my works laptop, I made a comment critical of Netanyahu, and the Gaza genocide, which got that account banned from /pics. This was months ago, then I made a comment on pics, on my main account. That’s it, gone, banned.
I even have another spare account, from 2008, logged in to that, that’s banned too. FFS!
No luck on appeals, so I guess no more reddit, ever again. Anyone managed to get around this?
I was just permabanned for calling Ann Coulter racist, because I “promoted identity-based hate or attacks.” Because apparently saying racism is bad is… Bad. After I appealed this obviously wrongful ban, I was permabanned again for literally no reason. When I appealed that ban, they swiftly responded saying my appeal will not be granted, without ever saying what rule I even broke.
14 years down the fuckin drain. The biggest thing keeping me on this mortal coil is the promise that one day I will read Steve Huffman’s obituary
they ban your digital fingerprint, not just your ip. the only way to go back is make a new account on a different device/browser and never log into that new account from your old device
but do you really want to go back?
i also had multiple accounts (main acct was 14 yrs old) banned for hurting conservative fee fees. don’t miss it one bit
Yes and no, I guess, I don’t know… I used it every day for almost 20 yrs, It became part of my daily routine. I’m really liking it here though, it feels way less ‘shouting into the void’ and more inclusive, kinda like early reddit.
it feels way less ‘shouting into the void’
Very much so.
Two things killed Reddit for me.
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Bot bans for basically everything.
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Over-saturated to the point that your comments almost never get interacted with. So…what’s the point?
Same here! I used to leave comments in the early days of Reddit, but then it became clear that many posts I was replying to were just karma farming or bots.
Seeing that made me just stopped using it as anything other than a content aggregator, and only through the 3rd party apps.
When they basically killed API access I moved here. It doesn’t have the niche communities that are on Reddit, but when I need information from those I just search it up.
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Welcome to the fediverse! I too have had my IP permabanned from reddit for hurting conservative feefees.
the fingerprinting is pretty extensive, your browser size, screen resolution, computer components,etc. it would have to be a new device, IP,a nd different browser, and or long term success requires you to use paid methods.
All of my accounts have been banned, but my wife is able to log in fine from the same IP.
they ban your digital fingerprint, not just your ip.
I only use Reddit at work on my work desktop. Over the last handful of years I’ve gone through a shit ton of Reddit accounts, but they last weeks/months until I say one of the many, many things you can get bot banned for on Reddit, which I inevitably do, because I am not nice to fascists and I don’t care if I get banned for being mean to fascists.
So I’m not sure about the IP thing.
I’m statically assigned an internal IP, so that never changes. And my public IP should also remain the same for weeks/months as far as I know.
It would be interesting to have a network admin’s thoughts on this. Am I somehow being assigned a new public IP on a daily basis? That’s handled on the ISP’s side. Does my workplace have an agreement with the ISP to change public IP’s every day? Cuz sometimes I only make it a day or two before telling a fascist the only good fascist is a dead one and getting banned.
I use the Brave browser and only use private windows. When I’m banned I clear the browser, making sure everything, including cookies, are wiped. I re-open the browser in a private window, create a new throwaway email account, use it to create a new Reddit account, and I’m back in until, like you, I hurt conservative fee fees.
I always thought an IP ban would be bad for their business cuz then one person could get a multi-user computer banned and Reddit would lose users that way. Not that I would put it past Reddit to make bad decisions. I’ve been watching them do it for almost two decades now.
Network admin here, your internal IPv4 address doesn’t matter, external people don’t see it. Your work likely has a static block of external IPv4 addresses and it’s possible that they are rotated through over time so your effective external IP changes slowly. This depends on how big your work organization is and how your network admin set things up
But could it be rotating external addresses literally every day or two?
Like I said, I only make it a day or two with some of these accounts before I say something I typically know will get me banned and I just don’t care. Then I’m back in with my new account. It’s fully functional. I check to make sure I’m not shadowbanned. I get activity on my posts. And those accounts can be good for months.
I just don’t see how Reddit can be IP banning if I’m able to do this.
Yes. It’s Port Address Translation with a pool of external IPv4 addresses
Interesting. It’s an extension of NAT.
So you would have to purchase a pool of external IP addresses from your ISP?
So, technically, if you had PAT on your home router, which I’m not even sure is a thing, and purchased external IPs from your ISP, you could cheat Reddit’s IP ban, assuming they actually have an IP ban in place?
But regular external IPs get cycled every few weeks/months, right? So wouldn’t anyone with a Reddit IP ban be able to get back in with a new account once their external IP naturally cycles?
I mean if Reddit banned based on more than IP, like my computer’s MAC address, then any new account I created would be insta-banned for having the same MAC. I’ve been using this same computer for a few years now.
MACs are not seen by Reddit - that’s layer 2 info that only your ISP sees. All they see is your external IP. Most home users don’t have a static IP or static pool and can likely get a new IP - that’s called a dynamic IP. As to your point about IP ban evasion, they are used to home users having dynamic IPs so they probably don’t depend on IP bans at all - likely client fingerprinting (cookies, user-agent string, other browser identifiers) and usage, like what subreddits you go to
they do banned abused PUBLIC type IP, that people use to evade with. so thats why they have to look for IP THAT IS MORE niche.
i suspect they are less likely to ban large public IP used by businesses, institutions like schools,etc. over a individual, they probably put them in special category.
i had a same thing going on, although i was using public university computers to do it, which is probably why they dint initially block all of them until last year. different IP, and device was confusing them. if they however detect same positng pattern, or writing style they will catch on quickly,
on another forum, i heard they “trust” iphone, google email, phone made accounts over a desktop now. it did make sense seeing as how you can have a burner device with loads of account and not get banned for having that many. of course adding some IP/proxies, anti detect in the mix.
Your company may use a NAT network. NAT network can be described as a VPN but in a more local and trusted form. What I mean is that since migration from IPv4 to IPv6 is still going on, many internet providers use 1 public IPv4 address for like hundreds of their users, thus providing both additional security/anonymity and cutting costs on equipment and its maintenance. Thus, your company may share the same public IP address with a thousand other users securing it from being banned so easily. You can check this fact by go on sites that show your IP and then compare it with the IP of a router. If they are different, then most likely you are using the NAT network.
I really hope you deleted every activity on your 14 year old account because reddit will hold on to your data (even if you delete your account), sell it, and use it to train their AI. Something which they got from you for free while denying you access to their services after you committed time (14 fucking years), paid internet and all that. I wish every single user they permabanned did this. Reddit would collapse in less than one week
i used an auto app that went in and edited the comments to be random word gibberish
it took like a week
Poison the data. Love it
some mods hate those auto gibberators, so i got notifications from some subs that they deleted and banned me from the sub–on my site-wide banned account lol
“some” not all. Use it for the ones that work. For the ones that do not allow, you may manually delete your comments or replace them with random single words so it overwrites whatever backups they have.
In a war of man vs machine, Man always wins
Do you need new IP/ISP too?
TBF you’re just AI training material to them.
Not very diverse (read “useful”) training material if they ban everybody expressing a POV that the asshole troll mods don’t like.
Training material doesn’t need to be diverse when the AI models are intended to promote very specific ideologies. It’s probably better to limit the sample size to “approved” discourse in those circumstances.
This is where the smart money is. They’re clearly massaging the input with this, every time.
Fuck u/spez Enjoy your free time
This was the best thing that ever happened to you. Don’t look back.
I will always love the fact that the comment that finally got me permabanned was for telling a MAGA knuckledragger that he wasn’t just licking boots, he was deep throating them. Meanwhile, r/conservative, an actual fucking Russian psyop operation, is allowed to continue to exist. Reddit in a nutshell, especially after Trump was reelected.
My 13 year old account with 250,000 comment karma was instant permabanned for saying “it’s ok to punch a nazi”.
That’s when I stopped caring about Reddit and just kept creating new accounts to say whatever the fuck I wanted.
Yep, that’s the phrase that got one of my accounts banned a while back.
That’s odd, I commented in a thread about the killing of that French fascist that it’s not enough to wait for the state’s permission to kill fascists if you want to stop fascists, and all I got was a 3 day suspension.
250000 comments is mental illness.
That’s not what comment karma is, Doctor.
Karma. Not comments.
My highest rated comment before I was perma banned was 16,000. Just one comment. I was on reddit for 15 years.
karma, not comments lol. someone with that many comments is likely a bot, and wouldve even get that much before being banned.
I still haven’t gotten banned for saying Kirk got what he deserved. They just deleted that comment. But I edited another comment repeating my original comment, and that’s stayed up. /shrug
Good fucking riddance to Reddit. You might have been the last real person (not bot/AI) commenting on anything over there.
Why would you have a “work account” for Reddit?
OSHA compliance with nsfw materials.
Years ago, I had a work account that answered troubleshooting questions in the company subreddit. It was actually pretty great for that, because active users could get their answers quickly, but also the answers were preserved for future users. Our corpirate site had a community page, but it didn’t have 0.01% of the daily views the subreddit had.
I left that job years ago, though, and I don’t think the sub is as active as it was.
Work account for recruitment, we used reddit to recruit people, seems odd I know, but you can get some decent nerds from those programming subs 😂
i assumed work account , as advertising on the site. some non-propaganda spammer will do this, but they use other ways evasion.
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Guy gets his 19yo account perma’d
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Tons of Wordword#### accounts with hidden post/comment history flooding reddit and render common subs unusable
Reddit: Fuck you and your two accounts, man. We hate multi-account users here.
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It’s actually quite a horrible feeling, initially. I was there from near the beginning, through the glory days to the enshitification. Got banned from a sub by an overzealous mod on AskUK. Then perma-banned for ‘ban-evasion’, simply for using another “throwaway” account, which was common practice for years.
Now I’m on Lemmy I’m never going back, even if I could (which is harder than you might think).
Yes, this place is way smaller, but I’ve met almost no dickheads or bots in the year or so I’ve been here. It’s nice. I had a gander at Reddit the other day and it reinforced my affection for this platform and utter disdain for Reddit in general. They’ve absolutely wrecked it.
Same here. 2 weeks ago out of nowhere I got perma banned after 10 years because of an ICE comment. I said since they didn’t get paid, nor will get their sign on bonus, that in 3 years they will be back sucking immigrant cock behind a Wendy’s for money. Apparently that is inciting violence. Suck a cock until you choke spez. Anyway it’s better here except missing some niche subs that don’t exist here.
I said snitches get stitches in regards to someone burning a Tesla dealership and the news asking for tips.
Inciting violence.
Count your self lucky the local authorities haven’t come to your door to question you about such a comment…
Oi mate I heard you posted hurty wordy on the internet
That would be possible if your were living in the UK…ain’t that right bois?
they did you a solid, bud
This one. You’ll miss things but overall you’ll feel cleaner.
“Anyone managed to get around this?”
Nope. They banned all my accounts. Even ones I never post with.
Thing is. I moved recently and got a new computer.
Never even accessed these 3 alternatives on my current PC or IP to link them to the banned one.
But they had been used on same PC and IP like 5 years ago.
So that means they keep that info. Also my alt accounts were only banned a few months ago but my main one was banned 1 year ago.
I just happened to try to use an alt a few months ago and found it was also now banned and so were 2 others I haven’t used in about 5 years.
I can’t see how they can be sure this is the same person. Unless Reddit is linked to some other site and when you log in there, Reddit knows because you gave them your email.
This is one of the reasons I hate Discord. I made an account ten years ago and forgot about it. In the meantime I built a new computer with completely new parts, fresh install of Windows. Then a few years later someone wanted me to join Discord and when I went to make an account, I was already signed in with this old account I’d forgotten about! It really freaked me out. The best I can figure is that gmail is linked to it so since I’m constantly logged in to gmail/YT, I was automatically signed in to Discord when I went back. I hate that creepy crap with a passion. Discord has some bad mojo voodoo going on.
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I just went back to Discord. First time in years. And it knows who I am! Oh god yuck.
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It’s definitely Gmail/YT. I just went there using Firefox and Discord doesn’t know me.
I had different emails for all those accounts. On some reddit info page it says it uses “current” Ip address and device screen resolution info to link accounts to each other.
I think that might be a lie. They have to be keeping at least 5 years of data . Maybe even older.
I also change my IP address all the time.
They must be tracking some other identifying info. Like device sign in name (Google account/windows login) or something.
I don’t know but I was very surprised they found all my accounts so easily and banned them all.
You said those old accounts hadn’t been used ever or in a long time didn’t you? IIRC, a year or so ago, I think they went through and banned unused/dead accounts to prevent account selling and hacking. So that could be unrelated to the recent ban.
Ah . Maybe. I had not used them in a few years for sure.
Although when I tried to login I received a prompt the account was banned.
Fuck Reddit and Fuck Spez.
Anyone managed to get around this?
Didn’t even try. It was the impetus I needed to finally leave reddit. I’d also been on there for a long time, and i was putting in an hour or so each day. It wasn’t really doing me any good, and when I adjusted I felt better to be away from it. Lemmy scratches the itch but is small enough that it doesn’t consume much time. I do more reading and gaming now when I’m free. Years spent on reddit and big karma numbers are a sunk cost that makes it hard to leave.
I recently got perma banned from a community I’m very passionate about. No warning, perma ban for something that imo is not that controversial (I called a politician a spineless fuck) when I attempted to contest it, the mods muted me. Fuck reddit.
Take my updoot for calling that politician a spinless fuck
You have to be very bland and innocuous now. Even calling a 3rd person an idiot is enough to get your comment deleted so you have to constantly check yourself “Is this comment boring and milktoast enough to survive?”
I had an account for over 10 years and also left. I left over the recent issues with Discord as well as Reddit, Meta, and Google. I figured it was time to get off of them, honestly they did OP a favor.
I find fewer and fewer reasons to go to it. I mute many of the annoying subs from my feed. I avoid the ones that are just echo chambers. This leaves a pretty small list and they are getting very repetative.
