This is my third time to the office. Im waiting for the Doctor to come in and whie waiting in the examination room, I spot this. I start flipping through it, and I am getting upset.
I wait for the doctor to come in. I immeditely ask him, hey what it this? why is it here? He blew me off and just said “oh its just an opinion piece” and I said, yeah, but who put it here, do you believe in this? And he just shrugged. I said, Im leaving, that is so wierd, thats weird to have in a doctors office. And I left. Ill never go back to that place.
I need a doctor who believes in science. You wanna be christain thats fine, but this literally says,for christain nationalism. gross.
Putnam CT, USA if anyone is curious. I want to post the photo in google maps reviews, but I am afraid to, even with my google account being a burner. Yes, it’s the red pocket of an overall blue state, but, I just, was not expecting to see this.
Bravo for accepting the inconvenience of actually leaving and making the statement.
In aggregate, it changes things from the bottom up.
I did appreciate the doctors deafeated expression he wore apon his face and I walked out.
If he denounced it, or explained something…maybe… but, he blew off my concern and shrugged. No. Plenty of other doctors around, I was driving pretty far anyway.
Lol. Maybe this wasn’t the first time.
Yeah, because despite it all, I am still open to and sympathetic to folks who genuinely have just been duped somehow. It definitely gets harder and harder to buy that folks are oblivious the more time that goes on, but I’m never gonna make the mistake of pushing someone back into the fascists’ arms because they think I’m not willing to accept them.
Yeah, you are GURANTEED not to get the best quality care at a doctor that believes in Christian Nationalism. It’s not the 50’s anymore, but they are trying to bring us back.
Christian nationalism did not exist in this sense in the 1950s. What we are calling Christian nationalism is toolism of big business and they’re Unholy alliance with the religious right. The evangelicals, the baptists, the calvinists, they were never political before like the '70s to '80s I forget something about Newt Gingrich and a bunch of assholes.
Lol
I hate the break it do y’all but doctors and specialists are some of the most ignorant motherfuckers you’ll ever meet, outside their field that is. Same goes for nurses…
Doesn’t mean they ain’t nice people that id trust my life to, I just wouldn’t listen to them for anything outside of the field they are in.
“It’s just an opinion piece.”
Sure, bud. The magazine exists to advocate theocracy.
On the cover:
R R Reno, right wing theologian and editor of the rag.
Matthew B Crawford, can’t find much about him other than he’s at UVA’s center for advanced studies. Looks like his writing was chosen for the rag rather than written for it.
Glenn C Arbery, former president and current professor at Wyoming Catholic College, the college is labeled “conservative” by some sources.
Christian Smith, theistic author and professor at Notre Dame.
In my experience, doctors for me have been either blue hair free healthcare for all progressives or George Bush republicans with no in between.
“George Bush Republican” and “Christian Nationalist” are two entirely different camps in my head.
And in my experience. I have family distinctively, unquestionably in each camp and not the other.
I’ve never seen a Christian nationalist doctor is what I’m also saying. It’s kinda wild that they wouldn’t have issues with their license; having anything like OP’s image in a waiting room is a huge professional liability.
Ah.
having anything like OP’s image in a waiting room is a huge professional liability.
Is it, though? I’m not familiar with medical licensing, but technically how would it impact their ability to practice medicine?
A patient can build a case against them based on discrimination. If the doctor buys that magazine, that’ll come out in court, and even if the lawsuit doesn’t stick, it’s a waste of money. With that kind of thing hanging around, they’re basically asking to be sued.
Ah, I see.
…Yes, I can vividly imagine that being used in court.
I think that says a lot; that a practicing doctor would have this and not even see it as discriminatory. It’s been normalized that much, apparently.
There’s a disturbing amount of full on MAGA doctors who’d be flattered to be accused of being a Nazi in LA. The funny thing is they’re not even white.
LA has a bigger population than a majority of whole states. Even 0.5% of their population is a significant number of people 🫣
Truth. It’s a region the size of Belgium with the population of Mongolia. That’s a god damn megalopolis, if not a nation-state on its own.
You should report this to the state medical board. They take such reports seriously.
Not to be a downer, but I seriously doubt anything would come of a report. The provider could have bibles in every room in the practice, with weeping jesus hanging on every wall, and still not violate any rules. Providers can now refuse to treat based on their moral grounds (read - pharmacists not filling scripts for the morning after pill, birth control, etc and more.)
As utterly disgusting as this is, it’s not illegal.
Edit to add - what’s even more surprising is that someone paid $6.95 for that rag
This is the kind of info I was hoping to get. Ill look into it. I still dont feel good and need to find a new doctor now too. :(
I worked with physicians on an almost daily basis during my hospital IT career. Believe me when I say this is NOT an unusual thing. Some of the most whacked out RWNJs I’ve known were MDs. It should scare you shitless.
People should be skeptical about professionals that we consider to be of higher character and intelligence. Plenty of them have f’d up ideas and objectively unscientific views. Doctors, lawyers, commercial pilots, engineers, higher ranked military officers… people you’d assume hold themselves to higher standards.
They’re just people. As long as they’re not nuts and pass the right tests, a flat earther can become an engineer, anti-vaxxers become doctors, right-wing nutters everywhere.
Case and Point: Ben Carson.
It’s a bit unfourtunate that I think in my search for a new doctor… I will have to ask their belief. Im going to search for an atheist doctor…
I do believe this was the typical exam room for my lady doctor. Her family is from India, and I dont care that there were her family memeber photos on the wall, and Indian art on the walls, I didnt care she had a cross on her neck. I though it unique or maybe she was trying to fit in with the demographic, or whatever, but this is a hard line to cross.
The male doctor I was seeing on the off sick visit… coward at my questions, and this doesnt help the situation, nor my confusion. Who’s was it? he didnt answer. so, I dont really know.
It does scare me shitless, and I want an atheist doctor now, full stop
Name and shame
went to edit it, and fucking deleted it. oops
just wanted to add, if I ever doxx myself, just know, my credit score is about 300, I dont have a bank account, and if you show up tp my door I will simply force feed you supper and snacks until you roll away back from wence you came ;)
Dude did you not check their ratings before you went? 3.1 is a major red flag.
Another hint is look for “LGBTQ+ Friendly” in the listing. That’s the easiest way to determine whether or not a doctor believes in science.
So, most of the reviews are for the only brown lady in the place. She was lovely with me, this is a racist area, so…I ignored them. I did notice she had a cross on her neck, but thought not much of it. Until today, I saw some dude, O’neil. Idk who’s room it was, but either way…
learned my lesson, both you and my husband are right lol
Ooh that’s a good point; I didn’t factor in that the general bigotry of the local community would play a factor in ratings… Not really an issue when you live in the city.
But yeah the “LGBTQ+ Friendly” label is very helpful for finding businesses that are progressive and treat people like human beings.
Sucks that you’re stuck in an area full of bigots…try to leave when it becomes affordable/convenient.
Is it strange that in my point of view as an European, it’s weird as fuck that a doctor (or anything) has an “LGBTQ+ Friendly” tag?
That literally should not be a thing - every single doctor out there shouldn’t at all care about their patient’s sexual orientation and if they do care, leave it at home and act like fucking professionals at work.
I mean, I can see some specialities having doctors signal that they’re experience with things relating with gender transition, but beyond that, doctors as medical professionals have a professional duty to treat everybody the same independently of sexual orientation (and race, gender, religious beliefs, nationality and so on).
Further, doctors practicing Descrimination on their patients should be struck down as medical practicioners.
Isn’t there something like a Medical Order in the US? What kind of fucked up medical training system you have over there?
I have always interpreted that kind of tag as basically stating “we’re not bigots and we don’t send profits to bigoted political candidates in the community” more so than anything related to the business or practice specifically.
I’ve seen it mentioned for behavioral health places, and it makes sense to me in that case. If you’re going to be seeing a psychiatrist, or going into rehab, you’re probably gonna want to be sure that they’re not bigots
I can understand it if you want a therapist who is familiar with helping you through gender dysphoria. That experience in navigating those complex emotions would be useful.
Otherwise, I hate how in this shithole of a country doctors put their own religion and prejudices before their patients and the patients well being.
It’s a Google Maps feature, not a doctor thing. Does that feature not exist in Europe?
or gender neutral bathrooms.
I’m from the area and we always called it Dey Killem, because if you had a heart attack, you were better off trying to make it to Manchester hospital.
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Funny, when i search for this clinic, it has only 1.5 of 5 stars on Google
that explains alot, bet the yelp said he was wierd.
This has serious Obvious Plant vibes.
Using the term nationalism like it’s a good thing. Holy shit Batman.
One thing that’s not a dog whistle; they openly admit to being Christian Nationalists.
Seems a lot of the right wing “dog whistles” are more of an air raid siren. They don’t need to be subtle - a horrifying number of people build their whole identity around things like racism and religious superiority. The louder the whistle, the more support they drum up from those evil shits.
There are no Dog Whistles any more. That was when being a treasonous racist pedophile was something you weren’t proud of and wasn’t socially acceptable, so you had to communicate with your douchebag buddies under the radar.
MAGA Has given them permission to let their Traitor flag fly, and they are too stupid to understand that this won’t last forever, and the punishment will be a bitch, so they are demonstrating to the world just how ugly they are. At least when this is all over, we will have no doubts as to where the problems are. They’ve made it easy to improve society with a little thinning of the herd.
They’re typically used in real life situations, for example, when trying to figure out whether their coworkers are like-minded. Once they know they can get away with it, though … I have a few coworkers that will talk right-wing talking points practically non-stop. Another coworker and I have considered reporting them to HR, but all that would do is put a target on our backs; or at best, get them to silently hold a grudge against us. And it takes a lot more than office drama to get fired where I work.
I fully support stupid business owners wearing their shitty politics on their sleeve. Cuts their business in half and virtually ensures they’ll fail.
So you mean your former doctor. Good. Fuck that wackadoo bastard.
When I moved to the rural South I discovered half the businesses have crosses in their logos or big bible verses on the building’s outer walls, and yes, doctors had Christian shit in waiting rooms. Well, sure as shit, it meant they were the ones who would cut a corner and mark up a bill at the end. Shake your hand and call you their brother. Just avoid, just get up and leave and stop going to that place. It’s a warning sign every time, and every time I wish I’d have listened to my gut when I do go in.
Well, sure as shit, it meant they were the ones who would cut a corner and mark up a bill at the end.
That sounds like Moral Licensing at work, especially when you consider the bible-thumper context. This is the same reason why food-service workers (table servers mostly) learn to fear the after-church lunch rush.
Note how there is a piece highlighted on the cover against Notre Dame, a Catholic university. It isn’t simply being Christian that these people want.
No shit.
Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all worship the same God, and often respect each other’s important figures as at least prophets.
If one of the three ever “won” and replaced the other two, the very next act would be going after a minor branch of their own religion.
The details they squabble over are already super minor, and basically come down to speaking different languages.
It doesn’t have anything to do with religion, it’s the power structure and people abusing others faith to convince them to do horrible shit.
It has everything to do with religion. without these made up stories, not a single justification would be left for all the shit these people have done over the years. zero.
If it wasn’t religion, they’d exploit something else.
You still think the people in charge of these movements actually give a fuck about the movement.
They’re just looking for a way to manipulate people. Religion might be the most common right now, but there’s other options that work just as well.
not a single justification would be left for all the shit these people have done over the years.
Do you not know what racism is?
The justification doesn’t matter because it’s always bullshit. Getting rid of the justification doesn’t solve the problem, it just replaced it with a different justification.
What you’re advocating for is perpetual whack a mole that doesn’t solve anything.
Fascist will use whatever rhetoric, belief, religion, creed, etc to their advantage. It is about power and manipulation.
Having said that religion, particularly Abrahamic ones, are complete garbage with or without fascism.
Modern day racism in the US traces it roots back to Christianity. There is no denying this. It is a garbage religion used to create servitude and slavery.
If it wasn’t religion, they’d exploit something else.
It’s gonna be harder to exploit something that is not based on “trust me bro”. Exploit what? Science? Fine. Reason? Ok.
Religion is THE tool for exploitation. You can lie to yourself, and that’s what you’ve been trained for (Yes, I assume you are at least somewhat religious. Only religious people defend religion).
Do you not know what racism is?
I do. And its origins are deeply rooted in religion. Lots of litterature about that.
So I’m not saying it’s a magical bullet. But if we stop teaching people shit like “faith”, we may have fucking chance of making it. Religions are not defendable anymore, it’s a cancer, and it must be abolished.
I do not respect religion.
Do you understand that they are saying the “trust me bro” is going to come from somewhere else, if not religion? Elon Musk and his claims over the years are a great example.
I highly recommend you give the South Park episode “Go God Go” a watch. It’s pretty funny.
Elon musk fandom is religious. It’s full blown religious thinking. That is exactly my point.
It’s gonna be harder to exploit something that is based on anything other than “trust me bro”.
I legitimately can’t tell if that’s a typo or a real opinion…
But either way, I can’t see this being productive.
Just so you’re aware, most of the Nazi ideology is based in a form of science and reason, yet it spread hate like nothing else. Eugenics is a way to use science to to fuel hate towards people for whatever characteristics you choose. Science is not immune to this abuse. Sure, it’s not as common as religion, but it’s something we will always have to look out for. Don’t think you’re immune because you don’t follow a religion. That’s how you end up believing this other shit that tells you you’re better than others.
eugenics is not science. it’s trash. pretending you do science to impose religious thinking on people is not science. It’s religion however you call it.
Interestingly, the magazine’s editor (who’s credited for the “For Christian Nationalism” article), is listed as Catholic in the magazine’s Wikipedia page.
First Things is a “Catholic” mag. but they’re generally considered on the far right of the spectrum. Hated Pope Francis, think Notre Dame is a liberal haven, etc.
just once I wish the catholics would bring back old school punishments for members of their religion who reject the pope.
Oh I’m an idiot. I thought they were mad at the cathedral.
“I like cathedrals that don’t burn down.”
or the COLLEGE.
Many “advertise” their faith discretely, look for crosses or a tiny Jesus fish on their signage, business cards, building, etc.
I’m always grateful whenever a business puts a Jebus fish on their signs and in their ads so I don’t have to waste time doing business with them. It only took a couple of times letting outspoken Xtians work on my stuff before I realized it was all a ruse to get gullible idiots into their stores to be f’d over.
