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“Imperialist EU”… Do they no longer understand the meaning of words?
Jill Stein is a sellout traitor too.
Fuck tankies and their delusions.
a sellout traitor
What on earth do you think a distant fourth place contender sold, exactly? What do you think she got in exchange, even?
There is exactly one person who was a close friend of Donald Trump, who convinced him to run in the primary, who supported him financially and encouraged suffocating media coverage, and who ultimately propelled him into the general election.
So to take Bush down, Clinton’s team drew up a plan to pump Trump up. Shortly after her kickoff, top aides organized a strategy call, whose agenda included a memo to the Democratic National Committee: “This memo is intended to outline the strategy and goals a potential Hillary Clinton presidential campaign would have regarding the 2016 Republican presidential field,” it read.
“The variety of candidates is a positive here, and many of the lesser known can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. In this scenario, we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party,” read the memo.
“Pied Piper candidates include, but aren’t limited to:
• Ted Cruz
• Donald Trump
• Ben Carson
We need to be elevating the Pied Piper candidates so that they are leaders of the pack and tell the press to [take] them seriously."
This is the woman all you liberal dipshots were ride-or-die for ten years ago. She single-handled elevated her CLOSE PERSONAL FRIEND, Donald Trump, to the GOP nomination and then to the Presidency.
What does this have to do with the traitorous Jill Stein?
A scapegoat is an innocent individual or group unfairly blamed for the mistakes, failures, or wrongdoings of others. People or institutions use scapegoating to deflect responsibility, manage public anger, or protect those actually at fault.
This has literally nothing to do with the traitorous Jill Stein.
Can we still call him a fat pedophile?
It’s hyperbolic but they do that all the time for their own team. Got my comment deleted when I called out that lady who is saying we need to put “rich zionists” into concentration camps. The reason they gave: zionism
Well I have to admit, it is somewhat demeaning to Russians.
It’s a running joke in American politics for Democrats to shit the bed in a dozen winnable states, then spend the next four years insisting “The tiny fringe third party candidate stabbed us in the back!” This, while cozying up to the most toxic reactionaries the US has to offer.
You can do a national tour with Liz Cheney and Jeff Flake for the last three months of your campaign. You can spend half a billion dollars on that weird Las Vegas globe thing, running annoying ads that only other DC consultants pay attention to. You can mirror Republican policy on issues Americans absolutely hate. And you can bend over backwards for the most horrid stew of reactionary oligarchs.
But it’s still always those damned foreigners, those stupid independent voters, and the insidious Internet Leftists who are to blame when you lose.
Idiot Junior tweeted his own e-mails arranging Russian kompromat in exchange for sanctions relief.
Two of The Idiot’s campaign managers were convicted as foreign agents. Two.
He immediately fired the FBI director for investigating his ties to Russia. The next day, Russian officials secretly met him in the oval office, and the only reason we know about it is Russian photographers posting photos of them laughing it up.
But a connection? Nahhh, that’s schizophrenic fantasy.
Ironically, ML’s global rule 1 references its code of conduct, which says
Respect that people have differences of opinion and that every design or implementation choice carries a trade-off and numerous costs. There is seldom a right answer.
That‘s hilarious. The admins‘ version of respect is to delete the comment they disagree with and leave a smug reply.
It’s called hypocrisy
Stuntobor: “It’s not hypocrisy if I do it, that’s different.”
Still not sure if the tankies actually believe their own nonsense, or if it’s some 4chan-esque facade that Trumpers get a kick out of posting under some insufferable ‘blue MAGA’ persona.
I mean, they’re Trumpers either way, but do they actually realize that?
probably drank the same koolaid as magats would. they even use the same PC buzzwords.
Tankies are tribal loyalists whose chosen ingroup is leftists and alleged leftists. They do not understand the latter distinction. Like all conservatives, their stated ideals are ad-hoc justifications. Claims cannot contradict, in this worldview, because claims are not evaluated; they are only a card-shuffling word game to establish superiority.
They think that’s all you’re doing. They think that’s all there is.
I don’t know, but we need to make a distinction between their users which are generally really cool, and the leadership which is a bunch of boot lickers to Russia and China.
While definitely more exaggerated in the leadership, it’s definitely the users too. Not every .ml is a trumper, but a huge portion of the trumpers I’ve run into here are .ml …I’m guessing the divide is in large part due to the process of picking your first instance - a lot of us just threw a dart at a map of the fediverse and settled where it landed, cuz getting started here when all you’ve messed with previously are sites like Reddit is a major pain in the ass. So, some of them are sincerely decent, they just wandered into a bad neighborhood.
There is a base that is really not more insane than any other base necessarily.
I bet half if not more of this group believes that if we only believed in Kamala harder she would have won , it’s not the fault of the democratic party and Kamala harris, it’s the fault of the voters for not believing her enough.
Truth be it was a lost cause from the minute they anointed her, which I called by the way.
Which is all to say otherwise good people can be quite mistaken, and the majority of the users of that ml are cool from what I have experienced.
from the minute they anointed her
She was gaining steam. Idk if enough to actually win without any other hitches, but there were hitches, so who fuckin knows. I was hopeful up until that interview where they asked her about Isreal’s genocide on Gaza, and he response was something to the effect of “we’ll do everything in our power to uphold the security of Isreal” aka US bombs will continue to fall on Gaza.
Even that was still better than Trump, but she lost an insane amount of single issue voters with one breath; meanwhile the Trumpers were cheering for genocide from day 1, so when the blue team gets to choose between more vs less genocide which understandably burns them out; and the red team gets to choose more vs less genocide and can’t push through the corpses of brown children fast enough to hit that ‘more’ button… yeah, we were fucked from that moment on.
…not to say the anointment was a good move. The DNC fucked us again.
Point being that fault doesn’t fall on any one group. Would-be blue voters fucked us by not showing up, the DNC fucked us by propping up a walking corpse through an entire presidency, Harris fucked us by overtly supporting genocide, red voters fucked us for choosing the greater evil, and Trump fucked us like one of his 14 year olds on Epstein’s island by being the serial worst-case-scenario every fucking time.
Collectively, the US failed about as miserably as it possibly could from every single angle.
I’d say the split is around 50/50.
Some truly believe this crap, and the rest are LARPing MAGAts
That’s why I blocked lemmy.ml a long time ago.
Someone who isn’t me had to abandon their first account because of Hex bear and dot ml. They will troll the shit out of you Across Lemmy Outside of their instances.
I’ve blocked lemmy.world for me (it’s been a saving a huge amount my screen space from that degen meme world)
worlds isnt a problem, unless its the politics community. i had to block it, because they are using the same 'anti-semetism" shtick that ISRAEl uses to call everyone that doesnt align with them.
Yeah and nothing of worth was lost by doing it. I highly recommend everyone do so.
I went a step further and stopped using their software (lemmy/jerboa). #piefedgang
Side note, not sure if lemmy does this yet, but piefed merges comments from crossposts so you can view it all on the same page. super convenient.
Cowbee has some pretty bad takes
That’s their only takes.
well thats alarming.
Soon this will be re🅱️🅱️it 2.0.
It’s less of an orangeboi-supportive statement, and more of a “I don’t like it when you neg on Russia >:(“ statement. But it’s no less of an idiotic position for that.
I got banned from a lemmygrad community the other day. The mod called me a fascist pig because I support Ukrainians defending themselves from Russian invaders.
They’re weirdly unwilling to tolerate criticism of Russia or China. The whole thing is a bubble community that cracks down on wrongthink. The irony.
Same but on Hexbear.
I love how you can simply leave the evil imperialist EU when you like to. Just send a notice. Try that with glorious, heroic and just Russia.
Is lemmy the new reddit?
The tankies were some of the first to be purged from Reddit so they were on the ground floor of Lemmy. They are baked in.
im not surprised, conservatives are too pervasive to banned everywhere, especially with the help of bots.
No, because you can keep using it if you disagree with its creators by simply using a different instance, unlike if you disagree with Spez on Reddit.
You mean Spez, the former mod of r/jailbait/, right?
Wait what? Is that for real?
He was added as a mod as a joke (mods can mod anyone without their having a say in it). The guy is cunt enough without misinformation though this one’s been doing the rounds a long time.
I helped moderate a couple of mid-sized communities and users had to actively accept moderation appointment, but maybe that was only true after a certain date?
Yeah I’d guess that was probably after this incident haha. Definitely was early enough days in Reddit when this happened. I opened my account on there a long time ago (13 years maybe?) and thankfully the only thing I really remember about the jailbait sub is it getting banned.
The very same
Ewwww
Pretty much. The Ye Power Tripping Bastards community never lacks for content.
I suppose that some toxic mods from Reddit also infiltrated Lemmy.
Says the .world user. Lol.
You’d think it takes one to know one. How could someone that plays the role so well, not recognize one that’s not even hiding it?
