“Alpha-gal syndrome is triggered when a tick bite causes a person’s immune system to develop an allergic reaction to meat, including beef, pork or lamb.”

  • mechoman444@lemmy.world
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    My friend literally refuses to go above the Mason-Dixie line because he might get bitten by a tick and get an allergy to red meat.

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      I got fucked up by a paralysis tick. My throat swelled to the point I almost could not breathe. Was staying with friends in a remote rural area. Emergency services said It was too far to bother sending an ambulance. My friends were given a phone number to call if I stopped breathing. They would be instructed on how to give me a tracheotomy if that happened. Luckily for me it didn’t.

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      They wouldnt be too smart if they were, because it’s not a meat allergy, it’s an alpha -galactose allergy, which is a sugar present in most mammals that people eat, but also many other foods, like carageenan, which is in many vegan products and medicine.

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        Nothing our little genetic engineering lab can’t fix, crispr is so cheap this days. Ugh, their lab I mean, their hypothetical lab.

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      Iirc there is a good follow up episode on this as well from Radiolab.

      Wild that no one believed it at first. Short amount of time for this to change, eh?

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        I really liked the follow up. Yeah it was the alpha gal free pigs. They did a good job

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      it’s been very well known anywhere within a few states of texas for like a decade, and it’s definitely spreading. The US government needs to get it’s shit together and then wipe that tick off the face of the map the same way they were handling the screw worm flys and the mosquitoes that carry west nile and the other ones that carry dengu fever.

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        Imo I think these ticks are cooking and we should breed them and release them into high beef consumption districts.

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          Put active effort into educating and making animal free food outcompete meat-based meals

          Become a bioterrorist that doesn’t pay mind to accidentally killing kids (and adults) who suddenly get a life ending allergic reaction when having a meal cooked or cross contaminated with any animal product

          “Which way, animal ally man?”

          • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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            Obviously I was being sarcastic. I don’t actually believe we should be spreading ticks around, they can transmit other diseases as well. You could also get the same effect by injecting people with alpha gal.

            But while we’re here lets have some fun:

            shitpost

        • BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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          Idk if they were just biting people maybe, but I can’t help but wonder what effect removing carnivores would have. Education would be better.

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            I think the main problem is that corporate agriculture has already sidestepped the problem by creating genetically modified animals that don’t have the alpha gal molecules.

            If I remember correctly alpha gal isn’t present in humans so our immune system can be programmed to use it as a marker. Most mammals have the molecule present on cells so if their thymus is functioning correctly they shouldn’t be able to develop an immune response to it.

    • rmrf@lemmy.ml
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      Ah yes, no concern for a poorly understood disease because its better known effect “doesn’t scare me”

      Where have we heard this before

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        I mean there are a lot of problems with corporate agriculture being sidestepped here.

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      The world would improve greatly if vegan or vegetarian food had better marketing around quick and easy prep time.

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            My neighbors watched in horror one year when I grilled a lobster alive. They asked in terror : "Did you just put that lobster in the grill alive? I looked at them and said back: Ah yep! You buy them to kill them to eat them.

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                I does not really bother me. I just think it is a shame how much unnecessary suffering there is.

                You could easily kill the lobster before putting it on the grill with a knife.

                Not sure how putting it on alive changes anything.

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                I wonder if you would be like this if you’d get bit by this tick.

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      Real talk: you remember in the ninties when everyone started looking into agriculture in regards to cleanliness and not using sick animals and animal welfare?

      After thirty years of ag gag laws and deregulation, that situation may not have improved.

      You can eat meat if you want to. I recommend a cooking thermometer.

      I’ll have well cooked meat occasionally, but I am not just eating marketing. If I eat meat I know it’s junk food and that it absolutely has to come to temperature.

      Sort of like abstinence education, wrap it up folks you don’t want to know where that thing has been.

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    Do people on the east coast just not care about the diseases ticks carry? I feel like nobody is doing anything about ticks or the diseases. Back in the 80s they used to fly planes a few hundred feet over my house and open the back bay where a cloud of deet would come come pouring out. We’d stand out on the porch and watch and run inside before the cloud hit the ground. They did all that for mosquitoes.

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      Turns out that horrific for the environment and it’s easier to just tell people to stop killing opossums.

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        Opossoms don’t really eat many ticks. The methodology of that study was flawed because they only fed them ticks.

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          so it turns out Statesians eat nothing but donuts. in this proposal to the IRB i would like to investigate…

        • Madison420@lemmy.world
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          They are predators of mosquitoes and ticks, they aren’t supersoldiers of pest control like the study implies they are however a limiter in the ecosystem along with other animals people tend to kill and not think much about. It’s cheaper and easier to educate about not killing x than to eradicate a species and eat the consequences.

      • Tim_Bisley@piefed.social
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        Well I used that as an example of the effort expensed not that it was a good solution. Similar to how opossums aren’t a solution. It’s been mentioned a number of times now they don’t help as much as first thought. Sounds like chickens or guinea fowl are better

    • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
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      so i googled alpha gal tick and this is the first map i found. it is not authoritative it came off social media. but i remember when the map didn’t include the west coast and lone star ticks were way further south.

    • GalacticRobot@lemmy.world
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      They care, but there isn’t a ‘lot’ that can be done. These ticks range is expanding due to climate change, and even with proper precautions (sprays, clothing, monitoring) it still can happen. Lyme disease is a big thing in on the east coast, so they do know about ticks.