• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    Nope, keep throwing that money away like drunken Roman emperors. Eventually they’ll collapse under their own weight.

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    Answer: the Disney corporation will survive just fine with this loss which is a tiny drop in the bucket for them.

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    Honestly I think the bigger problem for theater revenue is less the quality of the film, and more the theaters themselves.

    They charge three months rent for a bag of popcorn, a kidney for the ticket, and the remainder of your life of slave labor for medium soda.

    Even smuggling in the noms, the cost of the ticket alone isn’t worth the experience… the experience being shitty, squeaky seats, the smell of butter, cigarettes, and BO, obnoxious customers who are incapable of shutting the fuck up, and some fucking redneck sitting right in front of you with a 10 gallon cowboy hat that’s obstructing about a quarter of the screen.

    The live action lazy remakes are just icing on the cake.

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      My son is HUGE cinephile, but he has stopped going to theaters. They are far too expensive, and there aren’t even enough good movies to justify their monthly pass.

      So he just pirates everything, which I fully support 100%. He’s a Pirate Nepo-Baby.

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        We used to have a great cinema where I live. They pioneered the living room theater experience. The top two rows in each theater were 21+, waiters came around to take your order. Full restaurant service, reasonably priced.

        Then the owner got greedy and tried to do an IPO. AMC bought it all in a hostile takeover. Now it’s another janky theater.

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      How many millions of dollars in profit were made by Jack Black saying the words “Chicken jockey?”

      Money can be made with movies. Just…not by Disney.

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        Just…not by Disney.

        Except Toy Story 5.

        Also the Lilo & Stitch remake last year made about the same as Minecraft.

        The Moana remake probably sucks, but Disney still makes money.

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    They should give us live action remakes, but R-rated.

    Beauty and the Bestiality: No Ass is Safe.

    Moana: All Grown Up.

    The Incredibles: Come for the Milf.

    Bambi’s Revenge.

    The Iron Giant Dong.

    Lady and the Tramp.

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      If Disney had hired Guillermo Del Toro for the Beauty and the Beast remake, we would have had a masterpiece a la The Shape of Water

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      The Iron Giant wasnt Disney but actually Warner Bros. (Though it was made by Brad Bird who is most known for his work at Disney)

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      Related: in most of Europe, moana is called vaiana. Moana is the protected brand/name of some porn actress.

      So go find “Moana: all grown up”, there is a chance it exists already 😋

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      I can’t help but feel like this entire comment was just so you could drop that last one.

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    Please get it through your heads: animation is good. It can do anythong. Nobody needs a live action remake of an animated movie or show, especially since it’s all full of GC animation anyway.

    Just make animation again and take some risks.

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      Up to this point, remaking classic Disney animated classics in live action has been done for the purposes of imposing a 21st century Gender Studies major’s sensibilities on them. Because you see, there’s a problem with 1991’s Beauty and the Beast. Sure, it was the third highest-grossing movie that year, it was the first animated film to gross over $100 million, it was the first animated film to win a Golden Globe for best animated picture and the first animated film nominated for the Academy Award for best picture…but you see, Belle wasn’t enough of a feminist polymath and the Beast wasn’t enough of a hateful incel, so it had to be redone from scratch.

      Imposing 21st century Bachelor of Gender Studies sensibilities onto 20th century retellings of 16th century fairy tales has been the point. That’s why Mulan is effortlessly perfect and Snow White is half-hispanic, because women can’t learn to embrace their strengths or…be ethnically European. But Moana already had 21st century cynicism in it. Quoth Maui: “If you wear a dress, and you have an animal sidekick, you’re a princess!” What about Moana - or any movie made since Lilo & Stitch - does the rainbow hair crowd have to fix?

      So you end up with a shot-for-shot, line-for-line remake that isn’t as colorful or stylized and thus an objectively inferior visual treat?

      Can I have some of the Disney corporate cocaine? I’ve never had cocaine before and their behavior makes theirs sound great. Can I try it? I promise I’ll make a Sleeping Beauty movie where Prince Charming is convicted of rape and Sleeping Beauty is played by Whoopi Goldberg.

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        Well, as a “woke” progressive punk from Portland who supports supposedly radical concepts like multiculturalism, LGBTQ rights, equal treatment for women, and I guess the libertarian ideal of uh… dying your hair whatever the fuck color you want to…

        I don’t know enough about these live action movies to say whether they are truly pandering to people like me or not (I haven’t seen them and don’t care to). But if they are, they’re clearly not doing a very good job of it because the numbers don’t lie and people aren’t buying tickets.

        Without a doubt, these movies are a soulless cash grab and creatively bankrupt, but are they really making this about Culture Wars, or are you?

        Personally I think all of this culture warrior shit on both sides is a BIG fucking waste of time and we should just live and let live, ideally while protecting people’s human, civil and conditional rights. But maybe I’m the weird one.

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          but are they really making this about Culture Wars, or are you?

          They’re the ones spending hundreds of millions of dollars to depict The Patriarchy oppressing Belle, not me.

          Here’s a video by Lindsay Ellis analyzing the remake of Beauty and the Beast, including a fairly large section criticizing the added feminist talking points and their effect on the overall story.

          Then there’s Snow White and the whole scandal with the dwarfs. See, they initially planned to use live action little people to play the dwarfs, but Peter Dinklage of all people went on a podcast talking about how typecasting little people in that role and calling them ‘dwarfs’ was offensive. So Disney erased the word ‘dwarf’ from the movie, canned the actors and replaced them with awful CGI. Because that’s the bleeding heart liberal method to avoid offending marginalized groups: Erase them.

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            The Disney live-action movies are a prime example of taking the wrong lesson from critiques. Changes to pre-existing stories need to be done with a plot-driven purpose; the changes to Beauty and the Beast did not, the changes to Snow White would honestly have been served better with a Lord of the Rings-style treatment of dwarves what with the beards and mining obsession and all rather than just forgetting that they’re dwarves, and so when they tried to avoid changing anything at all for Moana, they made something that had no artistic purpose at all. In essence, the people behind the live-action remakes don’t know how to make a story, and when the most obvious change is gender politics, that’s what it gets blamed on. The solution is to hire good writers, not ditch the politics - because there is no such thing as art without politics.

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    I guess they won’t be making a Moana Broadway musical. The Disney cycle is broken! There goes the chance for The Rock to win a Tony award.

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      I saw an elementary school production of Moana Jr, and it had more heart, soul and accurate costume design than Disney managed to waste $100 million on.

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      That movie had no right being as good as it is. It’s STILL good, despite the 90’s camp. Or perhaps partly because of it.

      None of the big studios wanted it, because they expected it would bomb at the box office, so it was funded - with only a $7m budget - by New Line Cinema, who had no interest in riding herd on the creators. The lack of executive meddling allowed them to make what they wanted to make. (And, of course, Henson did an amazing job with the turtles and Splinter.)

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      That’s because Jim Henson put more heart and soul into the Turtles than Michael Bay.