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      Just rolling through here like “Do not cite the old firmware to me Witch. I was there when it was written.”

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      (drops to knees and bows down in engineer)

      We are not worthy! But thank you for inspiring the next generation of us.

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        They said pre-PS2, so there was also Dreamcast, N64, PS1 in the years before.

        But 3DO was a really neat device at the time. I remember standing in Service Merchandise watching the demo graphics play and wanting one sooooo much. Then the PlayStation came out a few months later and I feel like that was it.

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          Don’t forget the Atari Jaguar. Pre-ps2 would also include all the sega systems, NES, SNES, NeoGeo, the older Ataris. Leaving commodore and Apple out because they were more PCs than consoles. I think that’s all of them but could be missing some rarer ones.

          Jaguar, 3DO, and NeoGeo were like legends that in hindsight I’m glad I never got because they would have been disappointing most likely. None of them really blew up so only had a handful of games. Iirc most of the 3DO games were those live action ones that were more like choose your own adventure movies. Jaguar claimed to be 64bit but it was because of a technicality that was a bit of a stretch (something like it was capable of 64-bit math but it usually refers to the address width). NeoGeo was a system to play arcade games, so that might have been kinda cool, other than arcade games being the OG P2W platform because so many games were tuned to extract quarters rather than for fun.

          There’s a retro games store I go to every now and then that fulfilled a childhood dream of seeing a sega genesis with both the sega CD (the bit above that might have applied to the 3DO definitely did apply to the Sega CD) and the 32x (which I think was decent but didn’t get popular).

          The Sega CD might (this is more speculative than the rest so don’t take this as fact) have even caused the PS to exist because Sony and Nintendo were working on a joint console that was going to be CD based but then Nintendo backed out and made the N64 instead. Sony, not wanting to abandon the work entirely, then pivoted and just made their own console. It wouldn’t surprise me if the combination of Sega CD flopping plus their games not being very good and CDs adding annoying load time are what made Nintendo back out. It probably also helped Sony direct game markers towards better ideas than FMV.

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            Sega CD might have even caused the PS to exist because Sony and Nintendo were working on a joint console that was going to be CD based but then Nintendo backed out and made the N64 instead.

            That’s Nintendo and Sony, Sega has nothing to do with this. There are known SNES-based PlayStation prototypes. Nintendo then turned around and bungled the deal, consequently invoking the biggest gaming brand into existence.

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              I meant the Sega CD’s performance and reception might have been a factor in Nintendo deciding they didn’t actually want to bring their project with Sony to market.

              That said, I looked at the actual timeline and see that that speculation was incorrect as the Sega CD came out in December 1991 while Nintendo backed out of the deal in June of that year.

              Hooooly fuck @ the story, too.

              Sony had completed a prototype but were positioning themselves to gain control over licensing and distribution of the disc format they were using, which made Nintendo think they weren’t going for a partnership but full control.

              So at the Consumer Electronics Show, Sony did a tech demo of their prototype. The very next day, Nintendo announced their partnership–with Philips, not Sony. This was the CD-I, another console I forgot about in my last comment (that also failed because of its focus on FMV games, including the only Zelda games for a non-Nintendo console).

              Kinda interesting that this one story seems to contain both companies’ full gaming arcs. Sony wanting control over their software ecosystem but being hated for it, and Nintendo wanting to keep control and pulling surprise dick moves to do so. There were no good guys in that story.

              Though back to the original point, it wouldn’t surprise me if the reception of all those initial disc-based consoles helped Sony steer away from shitty FMV games and make sure they had the great games library the PSX did have. But again this is just speculation that could also be based on an incorrect understanding of timing.

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                Check out also Psygnosis’ role in PS1. They had some superhits like ‘Lemmings’, were directly involved in the development of the console, ordered cheap dev kits for it instead of custom workstations, made ‘Wipeout’ which singlehandedly changed the audience of consoles from schoolkids to college students. Under Sony, they were the liaison with third-party developers and stayed semi-independent, publishing other people’s games. Until they were rewarded for all this in 2001 by being relegated to the ‘Wipeout’ and ‘Formula One’ series. (‘F1 '06’ was so goddamn hard that the player could straight up become a support driver and needed to do test laps and display consistency after that. But they lost the license to Codemasters the following year.)

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    don’t be sad that you’re old enough to have played on a real life ps2, or even ps1-- be glad that 9/11, 2008, covid, and 2 diaperman potus terms aren’t the most significant core memories of your childhood

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      What? I had a PS1 and PS2, and 9/11 is one of my earliest memories. ‘08 was also childhood suckery.

      Covid + PedOTUS is a separate generation.

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            i’m old. when 9/11 happened i heard about it on the radio on the way to work. when the DJ mentioned it being passed on to him by his producer, he thought it was a joke or prank call. then the 2nd plane hit, and it wasn’t a joke. when i got to work we all went into the boardroom and watched the news for about an hour, then they cancelled the day for everyone to go home and make phone calls

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                no. i got started with an atari. when i was in elementary school i had a famicom, which is the japanese version of the NES. PS1 came out when i was in high school

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    PS2…Pffft. I had a PlayStation. The indestructible grey box from the before times. I played Final Fantasy VII, Driver, Silent Hill, Tekken 3, Resident Evil, Metal Gear Solid, and Grand Theft Auto. Unless the power was out, you could pop in a disc, read the booklet, and play to your heart’s content. Hell, if we are going to be talking old, how about playing Jeep Command or Pac-Man on the Commodore 64? I need to go back in my dusty coffin and have a nap. AND GET OFF MY LAWN!!!

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      Played Tekken 3 with my friend and his brother on their PS.

      Then we also played SW : RotS on our PS2.

      The PS2 is still around somewhere, but its CD drive sensor is bad, so it doesn’t detect when it’s closed. And thus doesn’t read discs. That was long ago. I need to find it, I think I’m grown up enough to fix one sensor or find a replacement drive.

      I suppose the old game CDs all have scratches too bad to play, so some tinkering is expected to make it work.

      And while there was an officially supported Linux version for it, of what I’ve read about it, it wasn’t of much use even then and was an advertising move (if so, worked on my dad, I remember him mentioning that back then).

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        My PS1 lasted for 10 years of heavy use, but it still wasn’t indestructible. That’s a term I reserve only for the Atari 2600. I dug mine (I actually own two) out of the ashes of my house that burnt down. Only the atari, a few carts (2600 and NES) and my doc martens survived that fire. Its hilarious that they still work.

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    “Are you old enough to have seen the console that had the most units produced over the longest lifetime of any other console, and which is still made in some parts of the world today?”

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        You can take a ps2 off Ebay, and with some pretty easy computering and a hard drive you can have a PS2 with hundreds of games built in. Downloading a terabyte of games is the longest part.

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    Come now, child, it’s time to commune with us, the deep ones. We who witnessed the 8088 and Apple II’s in the computer store, the Commodores, the Ataris, the Coleco visions, we who played Pong on the Atari Home Pong console.

    These children haven’t even danced on a home DDR pad, settling for Nintendo and Microsoft’s weak tracking methods.

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      Uh, I’m not sure what you mean by “settling for Nintendo’s weak tracking method”. There were home DDR pads for the Wii, I know that because I still have one.

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        The WII is 20 years old, they all had dancepads 20 years ago.

        The only ones still running ddr have camera or motion controllers. dancepads are mostly dead tech

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        For some reason I found a USB to ethernet network adaptor on my floor in my dorm room (no idea how it got there, just noticed it under the bed one day) at university and tried it with the PS2 I played using a TV in card for my PC and it just worked. Played some online Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 with it.

        Contrast to today, where my PS5 supports Bluetooth but when I paired it with my Bluetooth headset, it didn’t recognize it and I’m sure that was deliberate to get people to buy Sony’s (or partners) headsets. Which is one of the reasons I probably won’t ever bother with a console again (though Sony has been generous and has provided me with plenty of reasons to not bother).

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      Same, i even modernized him, bought a MX4IO and a 64 mb elf memory cards, two wireless controllers and a HDMI Adaptor who is powered by his own USB port

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      That’s good, take care of it and enjoy it. My Dreamcast GD-Rom finally gave up last year, but some day I’ll replace it.

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    Seeing how old a youtube video is makes me feel older than this. Like I see 16y on a YouTube video I was watching literally 16 years ago and I feel old from that.

    This though, it throws me into a nostalgia loop of man I do miss playing ps1 games on the ps2, spending time with my brother, buying accessories for it like the memory cards and the controllers with extra vibration or the ones with the fans in the handles. Man those were good times. Playing dbz budokai 2 and soul caliber 2. Awww man the THPS games were fuckin’ sick on that. The Matt Hoffman bike games!!!

    Yea it was truly a legendary system.

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      recently i was chatting with some colleagues, i know i was the oldest, bit didn’t expect on how much oh a gap there is. so we talked about some topic and i asked, who still remembers the release of the starters prequels… the answer was that not a single one of them was alive at the time… that moment i grew even more gray…

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    I remember staying up all night long with a group of friends of mine. We took turns driving by Target where one guy worked and he knew they were getting a shipment of PS2s in.

    We formed battle plans based on who wanted the PS2 the most , down to me, who would buy one if there were enough, but didn’t overly care if I had to wait a few months to get one. Since I cared less, and am over 6ft I was dubbed crowd control. The guy that worked there drew the floorplan and showed us where the display was going. Our caffeine fueled plans had us developing different formations and routes to ensure as many PS2s for the group as possible and delay other people as long as possible. And contingency plans if a different customer took an alternate route around the crowd to get there first.

    Once we saw the line starting to form at around 2am we all drove down and got in line and camped out till 6am when the store opened.

    Our plans were dashed, but held in reserve just in case things went south when we learned the store manager was a levelheaded individual. He passed out numbers for each of us based on our position in line.

    I was #12.

    The line never got longer than the number of PS2s they had in stock, so our plans were doubly dashed as there was absolutly zero confrontation.

    It was a fun fantasy for a while though. These were the same kids that had baseball bats and ski masks at the ready when Y2K happened. They patrolled the town at midnight looking for signs that everything crashed and were going to join in if they saw anyone looting. They wouldn’t start the looting, but were ready with a wishlist from various stores. Best Buy was high in their priorities.

    That also never happened. But boy were they ready.

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      I had some friends that worked at a major retailer. When the first shipment of PS2s arrived, a few somehow ended up in a dumpster. They were taken in from the cold and found loving homes.

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    I still have my PS2, and my son and I just beat FFVIII on it. He will learn the old ways

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    I have seen a PS2, never had one. I’ve also seen an IBM PS/2.

    (I have a PS1 somewhere, too. And the first computer I ran Linux on was an IBM PS/1.)

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        Not a very popular computer, but it set a standard that was nearly ubiquitous for mice until USB took over and was popular on keyboards even after that.

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          That connection was around longer than people may think. My first job in IT was 2006 and I swear that it was still the standard for Dell PC’s with the keyboard and mouse that came with them. I wanna say it didnt really switch over to USB fully until around 2010.

          I just remember the one thing I hated about it is if you didnt have it plugged in before starting the PC you had to restart once it was because it just wouldnt work unless it was seen at boot.

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            You can still get modern motherboards with PS/2.

            And yeah, it isn’t hot-pluggable. I think that probably had as much to do with killing it off as the versatility of USB.