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    Young people “love” them because it’s a house they can afford. They’d “love” a regular house if they could afford one.

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    I think that might be the most American photographer ever taken.

    What is the point in building teeny tiny homes if they’re going to be placed six feet apart and have no private space. The whole point of a small compact house is it leaves space over for communal stuff. This feels like an American visited Europe and completely failed grasp the point.

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      The whole point of a small compact house is it leaves space over for communal stuff.

      What? The whole point is saving money, and smaller land is cheaper…

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        You know, we could make them even cheaper by cramming them so close they share walls and then stacking them on top of each other. And because they’re all together, we can call them apartments.

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        If that is so, what is the point of all that unusable wasted space around thise buildings, other than law requiring it for some randomreasons?

        Without that, those buildings could either have high quality outside space that could be used for gardening or a terrace or the area could be reduced.

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          The point is for the developer to capitalize on the hype and fomo. Yes, most likely just enough space to meet property setbacks and utility easement requirements.

          They squeeze the most “houses” in the lot as they can.

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      If they are in Texas then it’s 43C outside and 95% humidity, so you don’t go outside for anything if you don’t have to.

      Also these are just apartments that are actually apart. So, basically just really inefficient apartments.

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    Yeah… well, maybe if you didn’t spend $60k on a truck and another $10k on a lift kit, you could afford a normal-sized house.

    The hell do you need a lifted F-250 for?! You’re not hauling anything, you’re not towing anything, and that lift kit just ruined whatever practical use the truck had in the first place.

    So you’ve got a 6,000-pound grocery-getting overcompensation machine that’s somehow less useful than the truck was before you modified it.

    Congratulations. You spent $70k to make a work truck worse at doing work.

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      People who buy these trucks are not generally paying cash. After taxes and loan interest, that $70K overcompensation machine is easily over $100K, more than the tiny home.

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      You know when I feel the most manly? When I successfully load my Kia Soul EV with groceries from Costco AND manage to get all four of my kids in there as well. A big pick-up truck is just cheating.

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      They’re not dissimilar in design from the tiny houses designed by Jay Shafer which were technically campers, built on car hauler trailers towable by pickup.

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    People love them??!!! WTF! When I was a kid in rural South America we would pitty people who’s house was not solid brick and had side walk. “Hay pobrecitos”.

    That frame of mind as my “shades” that I see the world thru tell me that this is wrong. Micro houses should be for anyone who really truly wants one… For people in the middle of nowhere that need some sleep tonight. For the homeless who lost a job or got an expensive disease. ETC. Not for regular people in the city with good jobs.

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      Yeah, but it’s better than being unable to own a house for a lot of people. It’s absolutely not for me, I’m far more inclined towards a townhouse if possible, but I’m an engineer who wants to live in a more urban area.

      Houses have gotten ludicrously expensive compared to what people can afford in America. This is partly because housing is seen as an investment and so any policy that reduces housing cost will take a good chunk out of the wealth of a large portion of the population.

      But yeah the talks of extending home loans past 30 years is just egregious

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        Housing as an investment is a problem. But so is having kids. Each kid needs a house until we die. So at least one extra house. When we die they get the other but then they’ll have the same problem… Kids… And where to house them.

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    I saw these on YouTube shorts. They are insanely expensive. Maybe not for that area, but I ny small town of 400k in the Midwest it’s more than or equal to a full size house morgage.

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      I saw something similar on youtube about japanese inspired micro-apartments to create affordable living for the masses… the rent was like 1800-2500. Which is not affordable anything for anyone but the top 1%, who’d never lower themselves to living in 50 square feet.

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      If I wasn’t married with kids and grandkids, i would unironically love this. Small area to clean, necessities in one place. The fuck are y’all doing that you need a fucking gymnasium of space to live in? Think of how much less clutter and cleaning you’d have to deal with!

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          You can leave whenever the fuck you want, so I’d assume not. I highly doubt the living space is the main complaint people have about being incarcerated.

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          “Young people love them” would usually point to people who don’t have kids. Yes, there are people out there who do have kids in their early twenties, but obviously these aren’t geared towards them.

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      I’d love to be able to not spend half the national median monthly wage on heating my home in the winter, which I live in because my ancestors built it and my ex got me in debt so I can’t actually live anywhere that would require a mortgage or rent.

      My kid probably loves having over 3000 sq ft (converted it for ya yanks) plus a garden, but if I lived alone and could afford to, I’d like something about a fifth of the size.

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    I’m guessing the truck might fit in a driveway, although the driveways seem short and it might block the sidewalk a bit. Can’t tell.

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      I don’t know about that. A place near me did that thing where they made little apartments out of shipping containers. Like a dozen of them in a half circle in a lot somewhere. I checked them out. They’re $960 a month. Not including utilities. For a shipping container.

      Also yeah no parking.

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        From what I read, the shipping container thing was a terrible idea because they aren’t that spacious especially when you still have to insulate them and guess what medal is really good at transferring.

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          Shipping containers are a bad idea because 1) you need to cut holes for doors/windows and that destroys the stack ability, 2) any shipping container old enough to not be resellable (and therefore costly) is not in a good condition to make a house out of, 3) you still need a foundation and pipes/power so you’re not saving that much money compared to a wood frame, and 4) steel sucks at insulation like you said (not to mention shipping containers don’t have eaves).

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          The talk about containers as housing made me think about how at least here in Sweden we use modular baracks that can quickly be assembled at job sites, they contain everything from offices, to showers, to kitchens, to toilets, to personal rooms and more.

          These have wooden walls, are insulated, can easily be put up with interior doors between the modules, you can stack them, some even have interior staircases.

          These are insanely common here, if you need to cheaply house people, using these modular units seems far better than using containers.

          I am sure there would be a market for redeveloping units into apartments.

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            Tbh we totally have these in the USA too, people here just get really excited about tiny houses and shipping container homes for some reason

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        Oof. There’s a place not too far from me that turned shipping containers into some experience motel thing. Also expensive. I’m sure there’s some novelty in sleeping in a poorly insulated, poorly ventilated metal box, but certainly not one I’d pay a premium for

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          Shipping containers are horrible for that. They’re metal so they rust and people that convert them tend to get older ones in bad shape. They don’t breathe so you have to worry about ventilation and sealing the metal before even building otherwise they start to rust even quicker.

          Theres basically no cost savings to using one compared to building the exact same space using stick-frame construction. Theres a reason why stick-frame is the reigning champion for affordable homes after millennia of evolution. It’s really the best way (in the North American climate) to build a cheap house. Things like how comfortable, energy efficient, safe are all matters of addressing the local climate and there are solutions to all those issues.

          1. Cold climates get more insulation and the plumbing is ran in interior walls to protect against freezing, the foundation goes down below the frost line.
          2. Stick frame is infinitely customizable and even micro homes can be made (usually its an issue of the locality prohibiting such small housing.)
          3. Live in tornado alley? We can add a tornado shelter under your garage floor if you don’t want to build a full basement. Living in Florida where you can’t dig a basement cause the water table is so high but you want protection from hurricane winds? Well we can build with hurricane screws which hold everything together better and even add metal storm shutters to windows.
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            About how much overall cost does hurricane proofing a house add to buliding it? Would the same techniques for hurricane proofing work in tornado zones (barring a direct hit)?

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              No, tornadoes are localized decimation, hurricanes are much larger but do less targeted damage. I’ve seen houses survive hurricanes, many do. If your house took a direct hit from a tornado without need for massive repairs you consider that your miracle.

              Edit: apparently there are light damage tornadoes. The Enhanced Fujita Scale is used to describe tornado intensity in destruction. Ultimately though the point remains, that tornadoes are a lot more likely to do more direct wind damage to whatever they hit

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              Not really sure. Some stuff like the hurricane screws is something typically only for new builds. Stuff like storm shutters are fairly common add-ons in Florida. All these tweaks are added costs, adding extra insulation in colder climates adds costs too but the point is that modern construction techniques have evolved to address pretty much every scenario you can think of. Thats why things like shipping container houses are stupid.

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                I was thinking in terms of new builds. I learned about Intermittant Bracing and circumstances allowing I’ll build my next house if at all possible.

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      That observation is common but provably false. You can talk to millions of people around the world who genuinely want or own a small house because it simplifies their life. That’s reality.

      Obviously many people want 2000 square foot mansions. Especially in North America. But many others do not.

      The interesting question is how big or small is good… For example, if you were living alone, would you want 750 square feet? 1000 square feet? Larger? And if so, what the fuck would you do with all the extra rooms? … Seriously, I have no idea what I would do with more than one guest room. For me, kitchen + living room + 2 bedrooms is more than enough, and it’s not like the bedrooms need to be very big.

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        Office and workshop space are big ones for me. Office sure is just another room but workshops… Well it mostly seems like you can never have enough workshop space.

        As for provable reality, please provide some evidence for this claim.

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    • are they living directly under a bunch of power lines?
    • too close together
    • looks both mass produced and cobbled together
    • weird house numbers
    • the truck seems to be labeled in some non-Latin alphabet

    I guess the latter points to LLMs…

    Did some sleuthing, came up with these:
    https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2024/02/13/lennar-builder-tiny-home-elm-trails-sales-success.html
    https://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/news/2023/04/19/lennar-tiny-homes-100-k-east-side-elm-trails.html

    Who stole the pic from the last article and put a truck in it while also messing up the house numbers?

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      The pickup? Why, that’s a Ford F350 H3X Powerstroke, heavy on the stroke!

      Ford F250/F350 body (illegible fender badge). H3 of Hummer + X of Toyota PRO-4X = H3X (Ford FX4 package also has a red X though). Illegible “Powerstroke” on door (their diesel brand name, gas does not get a badge).

      “Yeah, AI knows everything. It definitely knows precisely how big a Ferd Fiftyhundred would look at these houses”. Good catch. Anything but the metric system.

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        Holy shit wtf they live in actual hell

        Interestingly it looks like there is still something weird with the OP’s picture though. The house numbers for one, and the crosswalk looks different. Could be differences from construction to now but it seems a bit odd.