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    “Well, I also was good at finding faults in anyone who were trying to improve some things and attack them for not improving all things.”

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      “Have you considered that it just wasn’t thrilling enough for me to vote against literal fascism?”

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        I’m still not sure what was the reason not to vote the lesser of two weevils here. Some hope that if you show Democrats by not voting them they’ll do the things those people have been calling for? I’d fear they’ll just think of those people as unreliable voters and will just try to get the votes from those who do vote.

        Pretty risky move in any case, with Trump being the other alternative.

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      Absolutely hate the people who would sell out my child’s future over some holy war in the desert held by idiots—I mean religious zealots—terrorizing each other. They’re both wrong, don’t sell us out over it.

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        Idk, that seems like a pretty shit take to me. It’s not the voting choice I made, but I can see where people are coming from. It’s not just the US selling arms to hostile occupiers, it’s running around with the Cheney’s and the general abandonment of the working and middle class.

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        It’s comments like these that make non-americans like me pray for the fall of the American Empire. Seriously, you people don’t even see the people you murder overseas as human.

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          I don’t murder anyone. I don’t support either side of that conflict. I don’t like religious people very much. I’d cut support for Israel with the snap of my fingers if I could.

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    If you want something more hands on, work on local races this year. They are how we can fight back

    Elections are run at the state level in the US. Even for federal offices


    Many states have elections this year even despise it being an off year

    There are special elections today in Virginia thay will determine who controls the state legislature. If dems remain control, they can block a lot of the Republicans governors attempts to disenfranchise

    There are special elections in Minnesota on Jan 28th to determine control of one house of the state legislature

    There is an election that will determine control of the Wisconsin state supreme court on April 1st. The more recent Progressive control has lead to Wisconsin getting fair maps as the gerrymandered maps were overturned. We are going to want to keep it that way and build further

    There are special elections for various US house members like to replace Matt Gatez on April 1st. Should we win any suprise flips, it will be even harder for Republicans to get things through congresss with their already tight 3 seat majority

    And so on

    Here’s a frequently updated spreadsheet with various at home volunteering options

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jxO8g7q9VO3ZMAABcrvR7PMyX4Yl6dgIYhD3eRTKk1M/htmlview

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      Just to add onto this, don’t think that just because you live in a deep red or deep blue area, you can’t mobilize and make a serious difference. Most incumbents get by due to public indifference. Replacing members of both parties in entrenched areas with progressives is possible, but those progressives need help. Any time you can give is always appreciated!

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        And to add another point, people en masse are followers. They vote the way they are told. At some point, progressives got the idea that it is impolite to tell people how to vote. That means the loudest voices are the most impolite. That’s a breeding ground for fascists and charletains. Speak up, challenge stupidity and lies, and make bigots feel bad again.

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      We get to pick between a pro landlord, pro oligarchs dem or a milquetoast horrific status quo dem for mayor next year.

      Will fighting for one of them to win help anything?

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        We lost with Citizens United, but it isn’t nothing to fight to keep things from getting worse

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          That’s not good enough! We will never win with a platform of “keep things from getting worse”

          We have to promise to make things better and then work for it and then make it happen.

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    “But daddy, mommy said all you did was circle jerk with strangers online”.

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    I like how both sides are constantly complaining about the erosion of free society and democracy but both sides also support questionable legislation.

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      One side is demonstrably worse in literally every political action/debate. I’m no Democrat but this both sides stuff has to stop if we’re ever going to make progress.

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        That’s only true if you believe one side. The Democrats have also repeatedly expanded surveillance just like the Republicans. There only seem to be a handful of congress people who are are concerned with privacy.

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          I’m more concerned with poverty than I am with the surveillance state. It’s already here and will never be rolled back. Things could still be done to alleviate poverty like universal healthcare, ubi, etc.

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            Those who would sacrifice a little liberty, for a little safety, deserve neither.

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              Sacrifice? It was fucking stolen, shot in the head, and thrown in the sea before anyone knew it was even happening.

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              Very good literature lesson you have there. Let’s live in the real world. What are you doing to roll back privacy erosion? Kids don’t even understand privacy. I have a nephew that uses his full legal name for everything he does online and will not stop, despite me talking to him about how stupid that is several times.

              Privacy is over apart from the tools I’m sure you know about and use. Let’s focus on the big shit.

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      Funny, but SO many of those fuckers are either in prison or are facing federal charges still. Like, more than 1200 of them. And that number will only increase.

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        And Trump is president of the United States of America.

        The 2 tiered justice system proven to have no clothes, over and over. Streamed in real time and in high definition. Not that there ever was a time it was otherwise.

        Its just that no one even bothers with the illusion anymore. Why would they? What are you going to do about it… vote republican?

        Even those sleeping the “American Dream” feel these slaps to the face.

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      Totally legit response in regards to resource exhaustion and climate change, but IMO not regarding the degradation of democracy. In a larger scale this could easily lead to a demographic shift towards regressive political views.

      Don’t get me wrong, I’m not gonna put into a kid into this world, especially not for reasons of ideological puppeteering, but to conclude my too serious take on the meme and your comment, I do not quite see how they are related.

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    bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe WhY bOtHeR vOTiNg sLeEpY jOe memes!
    Then I did nothing about it between presidential elections. Nothing. Did not lift a single goddamned finger. Four years later, I demand the party cater to me, Me, ME. An utterly useless deadweight. And smug about it.

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      bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe

      The Daddy Party comes home drunk from the party and beats you with his belt.

      The Mommy Party cries in the corner, telling you there’s nothing she can do because you didn’t support her enough.

      Then I did nothing about it between presidential elections.

      People blink in and out of existence between elections. Nobody actually exists when they aren’t voting.

      Nobody organized with their coworkers to form unions. Nobody carried for relatives that had lost work or gotten sick from the pandemic. Nobody provided care for young children or volunteered to help impoverished neighbors or mucked out homes after devastating hurricanes. Nobody went to school to get advanced degrees in fields necessary for building out green energy or modern transit or dense housing or criminal justice.

      Nobody. Did. Anything.

      Four years later, I demand the party cater to me, Me, ME.

      When you think about it, denouncing genocide is an entirely selfish act.

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      Well, it would be happier if at least one side catered to voters as opposed to billionaires.

      That said, it’s not the fault of only Harris and her campaign, it’s the Democratic leadership from the past 20 years that allowed it to get this bad.

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      Smug is such a perfect word for all the morons that decided not to vote, because Harris wasn’t able to fix a 8 decade long problem from the vice president’s desk.

      Smug and stupid, because a lot of the Palestine crap posted was done by bots and saboteurs to fracture the left, and oh boy did it work.

      Have you noticed how no-one is screeching about Palestine since the election?..

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    The kids of parents who actually tried to fight to give them a decent future and world to live in:

    “My parents died in prison. They committed suicide in their cells by shooting themselves in the back of their heads somehow.”

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      Nooo, you have to blindly pick a side and act like you’re infallible and the other fallible.

      Don’t let up from the culture war, or else you might look to see the class war running everything.

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      What’s the point of political organizing if the goal isn’t to get your people into elected positions?