• Goretantath@lemm.ee
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    I am straight, so i’d have to first have sex with a woman to figure out if i dont like it, THEN try with a dude to see if thats better.

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    No, this isn’t logical at all. Even queer people have unsatisfying hookups for various reasons.

    Being queer isn’t just about enjoying a certain type of sex, it’s about being attracted to a certain type of person. If you’re questioning being straight, presumably it’s because you think some men are kind of attractive. Find a man like that, meet up with him, and see how things go.

    Picking a guy on grindr and only describing him as “kinda feminine” isn’t how you get to enjoyable sex. Where is the initial attraction that you’d feel if you’re into men? The buildup of sexual tension that you’d feel if you’re compatible? The discovery of how different types of sex acts feel? You need to go through these steps to actually find pleasure. I’m surprised that so many comments on this post don’t seem to understand this.

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    Absolutely yes IMO. Straight is not the same as never experimenting. A test run makes sense if you aren’t sure. He fucked and found out quite literally.

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        I mean, it’s still accurate as to whether you like performing murder. You might not like murder as an idea or as a thing that people do, but until you try a murder, you don’t know whether you will enjoy the act of murdering.

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          Oh fuck now I’m confused. I don’t know what I should do this weekend, eat some broccoli, fuck a dude or murder someone.

          Ohhhh I think I have a plan…

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    I think it’s valid either way. “I’m not attracted to men, thus I’m straight” is as valid as “tried it, didn’t like it, thus I’m straight”

    And works the other way around too, I imagine many people who define themselves gay have had romantic or sexual experiences with the opposite sex, but didn’t like it.

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      Agreed. I’ve kissed two boys as like dares but didn’t like it and I can acknowledge a guy is hot without being turned on by them so I think I’m comfortably on the straight side of the spectrum.

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    Gay people often have straight sex when they are unsure about their sexuality. As society becomes less homophobic I’d expect more straight guys to experiment with other guys.

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    If a man does anything that’s not approved by the strict regulation of the council of his male friends then they are gay. Its simple, there is no need to over complicate it by introducing sex.

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    I mean, you did a gay thing, but only to try it. I smoked pot a few times, didn’t care for it. Don’t smoke pot and haven’t in years and years. I am not a pothead.

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    How you know this is legit: if he’d been talking about any dating app other than grindr step 6 would look like 'wait 6 weeks to get a match, get ghosted, get depressed, go to bed mumbling about ‘who needs sex anyway?’.

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        I’m a guy, and it hasn’t been my experience. Not particularly attractive either. But I also match with a very little amount of people.

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            Awful mutton chops 2/10 would not bang

            I kid, but seriously he would look better without the chops.

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              I disagree, the chops are doing good work on this face, accentuating his cheekbones, pointing to his lips and narrowing the jawline to de-roundify his dome. Judging by the thinness of the chin hair it’s quite likely he simply can’t go full Riker, so though I’m not a mutton man either i think he’s making the most of what’s he’s got

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                i like how you got that he can’t grow anything more than that from a heavily edited image of him

                (if you want to see how he looks without whatever they did to him in that image look up “jschlatt”)

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                  Ah, am i being insulted? Why? I don’t know who this is mf cat is

                  Edit: on reread i think youre saying you "like that i can still tell he can’t grow in that area"which makes more sense. Sorry yo

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              i’m a straight guy too, i think that image is just uncanny because of the effects added

              (if you want to see how he looks without effects look up jschlatt)

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                Ah, some YouTube guy. He seems decent enough that a good personality match could bump him up a few notches w/ the right mate. And maybe he’s genuinely good looking, idk.

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            I have a twitch linked in my profile if you wanna know how I look, though idk if there’s any videos since I haven’t streamed for ages

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    As someone who has done a similar experiment (though only making out) I feel like this guy is gayer than myself because I don’t think I could stay turned on or motivated enough to fuck a dude effectively, even a very fem one.

    That being said I feel like gay is supposed to mean “attracted to other men” not “not-overtly-repulsed by sex with another man”

    There are asexual people who can and do still have sex because they aren’t sex repulsed. Those people are still asexuals, just like asexuals who are sex repulsed are asexuals.

    It’s less about what you do and more about why you’re doing it that makes it gay. Are you attracted to other men? No? Then I guess it’s not necessarily gay.

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        I mean… masturbation for men means touching male genitalia. You’re not bothered by that. So why be so bothered by other male genitalia?

        I had a few gay experiences as a teenager. I had fun, but I never dreamed of it, unlike with girls. Even a whiff of some girly sweat mixed with like the intoxicating smell of some girls hair could make me wank off to them for days. But never replayed the experiences with my male friend in my head when looking for sexual excitation.

        But the gay experiences were more like “I wonder what a blowjob feels like”. Zero sexual innuendo or romance or lust or infatuation or anything.

        Just two friends getting each other off for a novel experience.

        Wasn’t really my thing. But I’m fairly confident I’m more confident I’m not gay than most guys, having explored that aspect and found it to really not be my thing.

        Did the same with most drugs as well. Tried em all in my youth, but now I only use weed and alcohol.

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    If a man had sex with a woman, then proceeded to have copious amounts of sex with other men and never with a woman again, would you call him straight?

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    I mean, if you aren’t certain you’re really straight or gay, then why not try it? Just be honest about it.

    If we’ve learned anything about human sexuality, it’s that it isn’t just a small collection of holes to peg into (heh). It’s not even a slider between to extremes, really, but that’s close enough for most things.

    Some folks are juuuust far enough away from one end of the slider or the other that there may be situations or specific people where they aren’t exclusively hetero or homo. But, it’s also not something they’d ever know for sure without a chance to try it.

    Hell, ngl, there were a few years there that I wondered.

    You grow up back in the eighties, and you get fed this backside narrative that if you’re straight, the gay stuff is just disgusting, and you’ll hate even the idea of it, much less seeing it

    Well, not me. I had gay friends as far back as jr high. And they were way cooler than the usual assholes.

    Get into high school, and know a guy that can get fake IDs. I’m a big, hairy bastard by the time I can drive, so me and my gay bros (including a lesbian, but she was totally a bro in any realistic sense of that term) went to the city to a gay club to see a drag show. Which, a few years later, I ended up working as a bouncer there, but that’s off topic.

    So, I’m seeing dudes making out, there’s a threesome going on in the bathroom at one point, there was a back hall where dudes would suck each other off, and I took a peek out of curiosity and got offered head.

    But, wait, I’m not disgusted by any of it. I’m supposed to be; if you’re straight, it just bothers you.

    Obviously, that’s bullshit, but I didn’t know that.

    But, I did know that I never encountered anyone that offered to do anything with me that I wanted to do anything with. Never ran into a dude I was at all attracted to.

    So, I really did wonder if maybe I wasn’t straight, just really picky or something. Never tried anything, though there was one person I thought maaaaybe it would work out. Back then, you had what were called cross dressers, as opposed to actual drag queens. They’d “serve real fish”. And one of those gals was 100% a smoke show. But, by then, I was working there, and wouldn’t have done anything if she offered.

    So, time passed and I figured out that being disgusted by what other people do isn’t something you’re born with. It’s learned, more or less. Which meant that it was a good thing I’d never tried it, I guess.

    But, if someone wants to figure that kind of thing out by doing it? Rock on, as long as you aren’t being underhanded about it. You know, don’t make promises, don’t lie, be up front about what your goal is.

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    Logical enough. I did nearly the same thing.

    Hooked up with a couple. Was more attracted to the girlfriend even though boyfriend was more enthusiastic and attentive in bed.

    I’m lesbian.