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Sasuke [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago

tumblr zionist has no spoons left for the palestinian cause

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tumblr zionist has no spoons left for the palestinian cause

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Sasuke [comrade/them]@hexbear.net to the_dunk_tank@hexbear.netEnglish · 2 years ago
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https://www.tumblr.com/screamingfromuz/730516770723594240/look-usually-im-very-pro-palestinians-and-support?source=share

also, here’s their bio lmao

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  • Venus [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    I’m very pro Palestine but it makes me angy that they don’t want to be occupied angery

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    Pro Palestine but not pro enough to not squat on the land you stole from them.

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      I don't think we should be shooting them quite so much, we should just sue them out of their homes and livelihoods

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    pro-palestine

    zionist

    this has to be satire or a bit. if they really knew anything about either cause, they’d know that these are mutually exclusive and like polar opposites

    • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]@hexbear.netBanned
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      it’s tumblr, so theres a good chance it’s genuine

    • ZapataCadabra [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      No I believe there is the right combo of brainworms to exist for this.

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    I think spoonie culture is a little cringe but wtf are you doing appropriating the language of chronic illness to describe your entitled colonizer mindset? Fuck off.

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      It’s literally not even like the context you use that shit in, you have like too few spoons to be able to wash up after dinner or shit like that, if you are spending spoons on literally just passive sympathy for a political struggle then you’re operating in a new dimension of cutlery theory.

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        cutlery theory

        I’m crying

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      I once had a Zionist on reddit-logo start using leftist terms and tell me I had no right to criticize anything Isntreal did from the imperial core.

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        Lol what, it’s a military outpost of the imperial core and I’m a core dweller, I am well within my rights to criticize the horror I am forced to help subsidize.

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          Seems like it was along the same vein as their PR push as Zionist vegans that are very progressive and cool and need to be protected from the Islamic hordes.

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      I think spoonie culture is a little cringe

      Why?

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        I feel like when the idea was first introduced it was a helpful metaphor, but now it’s a weird token of victimhood? As a person active in the CI community when I meet someone who self identifies as a spoonie I roll my eyes and prepare to be exhausted.

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          Hmm… ok. See the last paragraph of this post for why I have a general distrust of people saying this.

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            Ok, what I’m talking about is people who engage in illness Olympics and endless one-upsmanship because their symptoms are their identity. I am allowed to be exhausted by people who belittle my experience as a chronically ill person with a multidimensional life.

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              Can you explain how your experience is belittled? I don’t understand that.

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                Person first language examples and why to use them

                I understand that not everyone practices person first language, but I personally find it to be preferable to making my illness equivalent to my personhood.

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                  Ah, ok. Well I personally consider my autism central to who I am as a person, and wrapped up in every aspect of who I am. Its why I dont want a cure, because it would make me a fundamentally different person. A cure would be murder. So I don’t like detaching autism from myself like that. But I see what you mean, I at least understand where you’re coming from now.

                  I guess for me I see a difference between someone who “identifies as as spoonie” (which seems silly) and someone who uses spoon theory to describe their situation (which I think any disabled person can do).

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          Weird wefwef error

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      • Iraglassceiling [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        You were rude to assume that I am making any statements about neurodivergency at all.

        Spoonie was originally a term to describe physical illness.

        I am in constant physical pain.

        That is not the same as being autistic. There is no social model for my disability. I am in agony.

        I am enraged that you make false statements about my illness.

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          Yeah, I’ve heard it used only by my partner who has CFS, didn’t know it was used as a neurodivergent thing too now.

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        Yeah that comment had a rancid vibe

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      jesse-wtf the what culture? what the hell is anyone talking about here and why is no one else confused

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        • Iraglassceiling [she/her]@hexbear.net
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          You are mistaken about the origin of the term. Vigilantes are gross, but malingerers also do real, tangible harm to people who have to contend with the medical system and the term “spoonie” is certainly overused by a certain kind of bad faith actor in the CI community.

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        iirc the “spoons” thing started with (or was popularized by?) a youtube video about mental health, which used an analogy where you start the day with a set number of spoons, and the spoons represent how much mental energy you have to accomplish tasks. During the day, you spend your spoons in various situations, potentially running out of spoons if you overexert yourself. Conditions like depression are said to reduce the number of spoons you start the day with. The analogy helps some people to not beat themselves up for struggling to get through the day.

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          I just read up on it and its fine if it helps people, but why spoons? It seems to be that anyone so dense they can’t grasp that day to day activities tax your limited reserves probably wouldn’t grasp your weird spoon analogy. Why not use fuel or batteries or money or something else that people would understand as a limited resource necessary for operation?

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            because the person who thought of it was eating lunch with a friend. They just used what they had on hand to make the point. I think its part of the reason why people use the term. Its cute. It could be more descriptive. But, when talking about sensitive subjects people like a bit of levity. The spoons add that.

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              I read the story and I can see how it can help people conceptualize their struggles. I guess i just question the utility. If someone doesn’t understand that the pain you feel or lack of energy or whatever often leaves you unable to do everything you want to do, they don’t lack comprehension they lack empathy. The spoons thing seems more like its performative theatre for people who already get it. Which is fine, of course, it just sets my teeth on edge a bit for reasons I can’t really explain. Thank you for clarifying though

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                Yeah of course. I think it gives you gsa queer or flag wearing queer at pride energy. Like people are going to think its too much. Or too unserious to respect.

                Of course, I dont think that but its understandable that it would bring that up.

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            Cause putting it in videogame terms isn’t gonna work on normal people. If some one put a hand to their head and said OOM. Us internet poisoned people would get it but we aren’t the target audience

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            I have no idea

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            I think its like “Spoon fulls” maybe?

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          This sounds likes something from the 1850s. I feel like using a battery analogy would be more intuitive in the modern day. To me anyway, feeling uncharged throughout the day makes more sense than “running out of spoons”

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    Pro-Palestine Zionist? Words don’t mean anything, they’re just fun little labels.

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      What’s next, a pro-Jew Nazi?

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        Well we already have a pro-Nazi Jew in Zelensky so never say never.

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        That’s basically what Japanese fascism is lol. They believe in the Jewish cabal, but the only reason they hate Jews is because they want to be the cabal and want the Jews’ status of world overlord

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      Based on the evidence, I’m guessing its a young Israeli who is pro Palestine making a cheeky joke. Something like an American calling themselves an imperialist communist.

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    Oh wow, they drop all pretense the moment anything real happens.

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    a tiny taste of the oppression Palestinians have faced for decades and she’s ready to abandon support— because she never really supported them, she just wanted to personally excuse her complicity with Zionism by feeling bad about it

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    but have you considered how their struggle against my oppression might be tough for my mental health?

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    Some replies may have been hidden, blocked, or removed

    Coward.

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    A pro-Palestine Zionist

    I’m a vegetarian polar bear.

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      A vegan slaughterhouse owner.

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        It's vegan because we ask every creature for their permission to slaughter them

        they never answer, of course, because animals can’t talk, but we at least asked so it’s vegan because i redefined what the word means

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        An abolitionist slave owner.

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    This is completely off-topic, but I’m still OOTL on why some screenshots these days have a filter applied to make them look underwater. What’s up with that?

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      it’s a tumblr thing to indicate disapproval of the post

      tumblr pvp is very entertaining

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        So it’s like a visual tone indicator “look at this garbage I found” without having to use words for the context?

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          Tumblr users aren’t sophisticated enough to just reply with a picture of a pig with poop on its balls.

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    Death to the settler hordes. All of 'em. You have no spoons for their oppression? I have none for your fucking life.

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      I keep seeing this term, but what does “spoon” mean in this context?

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        A theoretical unit of mental energy/labor expended per-day.

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        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spoon_theory

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          Interesting, thank you. I thought it was related to the “only a spoonful” meme.

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      I’m actually wondering … what if Israel instead ended up like post-apartheid South Africa (with or without the Western baggage of IMF reforms and the context of the end of the 1st Cold War)

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    Land back, from the river to the sea.

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    I would love to scare the absolute fuck out of this person in public and see what they post about it.

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      Probably something like this

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        Eve Fartlow

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          💨

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          Never gets old.

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        Nice way to admit you and your peers gave yourselves PTSD from internet trolling

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