And yes, I know people will say block keywords and communities, but people don’t understand some communities have rules and people must follow them.
This got reported as being not twitter or equal. I’m kind of on the fence about this. I see their point, but the original was twitter. Please tell me what you think in the comments, not just downvote or upvote. This will guide me in the future if we have any more posts like this.
I havent read the rules of the comm. but ive always perceived whitepeopletwitter as a place to post text based social media screenshots.
Fighting to remove as many posts as possible on Lemmy when we barely get any posts at all doesn’t make sense; ignore the people requesting you take a popular post down for some potential technicality.
We have trolls here too. I’m okay if they take a hike, lol.
People like this need to accept and understand that we don’t want to talk about US politics everywhere, all the time.
It probably shouldn’t be allowed in the future, but given that it has > 300 up-votes and is only now spurring a finer definition of the rule, I think it warrants an exception. If OP reads this, they now know to post this kinda thing in a different community in the future. But removing this particular post seems a little harsh.
Edit: This is an awesome approach to moderation btw. People like you make lemmy great, thank you!
It should be in YPTB, but they’ll just use that as more proof of their “outrage”.
the original was twitter
As in, the post was originally on Twitter? I’m not sure what this means
Yes, that’s what I mean. It was on a twitter like site.
Sounds fine to me, if this is a picture of a Twitter-like site then I don’t really see an issue
I am not sure how this changes the “the post was against the states rules which are there for a reason and the mod was the absolute most gentle about it” facts.
Did I get the facts wrong?
I don’t see the original. All I see are Lemmy related images and that, to me, doesn’t belong here.
When it comes to activism, I’ve often said that, ‘most people know the difference between a good vegan and a bad vegan’. Being insufferable, overbearing, or pushing discussions where they aren’t needed or wanted does nothing to help your cause, it usually does the opposite. When you talk to most people who ascribe to a certain political, lifestyle, or activist way of life, you’ll usually find that most of them are pretty normal and non-pervasive people; IE you may never even know those details without asking them. This goes for most things. Fitness enthusiast vs gym bro. Music/Media enjoyers vs gatekeepers. Activist who promote and provide good accurate information in a hands off way, vs those who push political messaging where it’s not wanted. Be a good vegan.
I don’t understand why have comms literally about politics and world news if you’re just going to post the same stuff to any other comm that really doesn’t need that kind of content. If people keep ignoring what belongs where, why have comms at all? Idk, maybe it’s my OCD talking…
has a very mild run-in with one singular community’s admin “That’s it, I’m done with the entire platform !”
And a respectful and considerate encounter at that
Are they both the same person?
As somebody who just came here from Reddit, I find all of these communities refreshingly free of American politics.
I have the complete opposite experience, I almost cannot escape it here. My reddit infinite scroll was way more diverse, here it’s exclusively american politics and linux, and if it wasn’t for linux I would quit this whole platform
On a side note, welcome.
If you haven’t figured this out already and your front page feels stale, then switch around to “Hot,” “Top 6 Hours” or “Active.” Active is the default and feels stale on topics.
I like “scaled”
I wish I could get away from it. It’s too fucking depressing at times.
Time, place, audience. Daft_ish thinks Lemmy needs a reminder that Alex Pretti was murdered in broad daylight? Imagining them walking up to Greta Thunberg while she’s sitting in an Israeli prison and reminding her about how awful commercial fishing is
Ignores the don’t X here sign then gets mad when they aren’t allowed to X
“It’s so unfair!” … as if the identical thing is not being done to literally everyone else all the time. Toddler logic.
A nuance that people often miss about lemmy.ml’s authoritarian policies - whereby they ban people from communities they’ve never even seen before - is not that it is done, but that when it is it cites a hidden set of rules that are nowhere ever written down. Little kid logic, where the rules mean whatever they feel like in that moment, and if you don’t like it then feel free to try to stop them.
Some people here are pushing for fascist Reddit 2.0, others for free-speech Voat, but most of us just want to get along somewhere in the middle without too much bother:-P.
My recollection is that Voat took a turn into being fascist Reddit 2.0 pretty quickly itself.
Took about two seconds.
You mean these hidden rules at the top of the front page?
Yes, you got me: by “hidden rules” I obviously meant the very highly visible, non-hidden ones, placed where nobody can miss them at the top of the page.
Those hidden rules, shown openly and have working links. So hidden. I heard McDonald’s hides the Big Mac from the public too.
The rules only matter if the admins adhere to them and enforces them consistently.
The issue with a “no politics” rule though is that everything is political. It ends up just being the mods removing what they want to remove and letting what they want to see stay.
Okay and if the users of that community are happy with that and you are free to stay away, where is the problem exactly?
Also keyword blocking does fuck-all for screenshots of microblog posts to tangentially related communities… Every day I come across several US politics posts even with me deliberately not subscribing to any political or US-specific communities, and only looking at my subscriptions. (Admittedly reddit is much worse at this, with generic subs like r/AskReddit and r/LeopardsAteMyFace being inundated with Trump crap.)
FYI, c/leoopardsatemyface is an OG political community.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/leopards-eating-peoples-faces-party
thanks, that was a bad example then :D
then instead: r/nottheonion and r/clevercomebacks
I disagree, fascism is everyone’s problem, and ignoring it only gives it power.
Yes but having spaces where we do not talk about the scum of the earth is a totally different thing from ignoring the problem.
Safe spaces are EXACTLY what people in the far right want. Not for anything they dont like, like Trans acceptance or long term ecological rehabilitation.
But absolutely 100% “hey I’m tired of seeing the hellscape of my own creation so if we could limit any troublesome ‘politics’ or ‘social agenda’ discussion that would be great.”
So no, creating a ‘safe space’ is exactly the same thing as ignoring the problem. Out of sight, out of mind, right?
Yeah I’m not convinced it is. We know a big part of the issue is voter apathy, and if you aren’t furious then you aren’t paying attention. For you a politics free space might not enable apathy, but it very clearly does for many, many other people.
If people are being force-fed horrors at every turn, even in their happy little hobby place then that will feed apathy. People can only care for so much for so long before they get burnt out and don’t have the energy to care for others or themselves anymore. In which case, many people will stop caring for others simply so they have the mental and emotional resources to care for themselves
Not horrors. Reality.
Being burnt out is a privilege you will not have when this all reaches the logical conclusion.
Only so much non US Americans can do about the orange though. . .
So, all those do not constantly need to engage with American politics.
Lemmyshitposts doesn’t have a rule against political posts and I fucking hate it. Shitposts are sacred. A shitpost is just silly, irreverent humor. That’s it. The moment you bring an agenda into that space it changes into something else.
There was a while there where I was really into wholesome memes. People really don’t get what wholesome is. I started getting legitimately upset at what people thought was appropriate there so I had to block the communities.
A few years ago on reddit I tried to put together a little multireddit of wholesome and positive-news subs, but so many of the posts were Orphan Crushing Machine material that I gave up :/
I remember that. It’s seems to have toned down a little but, like, no Lemmy, a murder revenge fantasy isn’t a wholesome meme. Jfc
I think that’s been dealt with since in case you want to check again.
Daft_ish has got a real problem if they’re that outraged by the mod’s response. I’ve seen plenty of powertriping arseholes to be mad at in my time, but this isn’t it.
US politics, including about the ICE murders, is spoken about more than enough across the English speaking internet.
I know as much about current US politics as I do my own country’s politics, because you can’t get away from it without blocking most posts on here.
Which is to say that some of us would just like to have a space to NOT talk or think about politics, including US politics.
Which is to say that some of us would just like to have a space to NOT talk or think about politics, including US politics.
Inb4: “You’re just privileged enough not to have to think about it.”
No, I just want a brief goddamn respite every once in a while, everybody deserves that. Just because I want to be able to escape into a fantasy world sometimes doesn’t mean that I never talk about politics either, it’s like cheating on your diet, just let me have a fucking cookie every now and again ffs!
This 100%. I care about politics. I deeply care about what’s happening with our country.
But I’ve had to pare down the places where I see it. I’ve stopped watching Last Week Tonight because it makes me feel so powerless on what I have control over. I absolutely love the show but I just…can’t anymore.
I’m acting locally, participating in whatever protests I can, calling and emailing my reps as often as I can.
But man…the right’s “flood the zone” works effectively and I can’t just keep burning out.
When you think about it, Americans are not that different from Arabs in this regard specifically, which is making your own problems everyone elses.
Please, elaborate.
“No politics please” sounds like a great rule until the results of politics kick down your door and black bag you.
What good does reminding us of Alex Pretti’s death do? We’re not exactly on the fence about ICE here on Lemmy
There are enough places to talk about it, also not everyone is American
So if something bad happens in any country, from any government abusing it’s citizens, that is also not allowed? Because that’s not how it seems to work. It’s specifically US politics posts that get removed.
Yeah, most of the time it is US politics getting removed, because 10,000 other NA users have already posted about the same thing lol.
Evidently the sentiment isn’t having a wide enough reach, as people are crawling into their echo chambers to avoid not having to deal with the fallout of their apathy, handing elections over to the nasties.
Not everyone was German/Italian/Japanese in the 1930s-40s either. Pretty sure those countries still affected others, though.
