The “not making decisions for me” part is a very Trump-like thing to say. Society only works by compromise.
The part where we all die, because a foreign army invades us, and no one is doom guy.
Part of anarchism that bothers me is that without central authority keeping track of everything my ability to find specific help I need would be solely dependent on whether I or any of my friends know person with that particular set of skills.
The part where I don’t get to make decisions for others. Not really looking forward to the clash that happens when the 2/3s consensus system of Johnsonville upriver comes into conflict with the majority consensus system of Tablesville downriver over the matter of what level of water treatment is necessary before dumping.
I really don’t like that Lisa Simpson meme, it only ever gets used by people who want to declare that their opinion is 100% correct and everyone else is wrong, and you just know it’ll be some of the dumbest shit you’ve ever read when you see it.
The best example of planetary wide anarchist community is the Fremen in Dune.
Loving that the best example of anarchism is neither anarchist nor real.
remember the guy on here a couple of months ago that couldn’t concieve of making a work schedule because it would be too authoritarian
I say this as someone who self describes as a communist, and an anarchist: Most self described anarchists in the imperial core are just anti-cop socdems. The lack of a revolutionary success on the scale or recency as the USSR or PRC has really allowed the term to erode its meaning over the last century; no random lib can hold you to a standard of ideological precepts if they dont have some historical boogeyman to hold you to!
The most principled anarchists (in my experience) are way closer to your average Marxist-leninist than the state would like to admit. They just organize themselves differently.
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Anarchists can organize and fight militarily quite effectively while still maintaining a bottom-up system, as demonstrated by the Anarchist militias of Makhno and Catalonia (and though not Anarchist, Rojava is an example of a decentralized army). The issue all Anarchist attempts have faced militarily is a lack of any allies on the world stage, allowing the authoritarian nations around them to crush them due to lack of supplies (or sudden betrayal of ML ‘allies’).
“See, tankie? I organized a decentralized army” gets absolutely fucking demolished by an industrial state
“The problem is just that we had no international allies and we got invaded :(” these people do not understand communism and the withering away of the state when worldwide socialism advances.
Pretend I made a spongebob meme with one of these people opening up the box to grab “Ol’ Reliable” (Stabbed in the back myth)
Makhno was supplied by Bolsheviks and when he came into conflict with them and supply dried up, he was immediately crushed! And Catalonia was literally part of the Spanish Republic and the anarchist militias were integrated as part of its army with full logistical support!
And ML states also faced those issues: Bolsheviks at first tried to build the army as a network of voluntary militias, got catastrophically owned, and started building a proper Red Army. And the lack of international allies was the horrible nightmare of every Soviet leader until 1945!
If you can’t maintain a system of logistics extending beyond the walking distance of a single village you don’t have a cohesive ideology.
beans. we have bean logistics.
Don’t be too hard on the anarchists.
All of the problems anarchists are trying to solve are problems that communists will need to address over time as the state withers away.
A socialist state should be filled with experimental anarchist communes that are trying to solve the next puzzle by living it.
To be fair, when Marxists speak of the withering of the state, we don’t mean the abolition of all hierarchy. Marxism does not wither into anarchism.
Don’t be too hard on the anarchists.
Maybe when they stop calling me a “red fascist”
Also having a plan for all the factions to fit in “after the revolution” builds left-unity now, maybe we can finally move past arguing about the Spanish civil war
I’ll be less hard on them if they agree to be less hard on every attempt to build actually existing socialism.
Not beating the “anarchism is rebellion against bed times” allegations
The part where I don’t get to make decisions for others.
If you’re not willing to use force against others to enforce your anarchist ideology then you’re never getting it. What is this if not making decisions for others?
This whole argument is garbage really. It completely misunderstands anarchism. It sounds like the average ancap rather than an anarchist.
J.K. Rowling: “I need a name for a deceitful forum troll…”
The part where millions of people die from a preventable disease because no one wants to enforce quarantine.
This is actually a great argument.
Erm, if you get me sick without my consent we’re gonna have bigger problems than a plague pal.
The ‘I consent’ ‘I consent’ ‘Aren’t you forgetting about someone?’ meme but it’s a bacteriophage instead of Jesus
Whitest Kids U’Know sketch about anarchy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cLBospQs9Hk&pp=ygUMd2t1ayBhbmFyY2h5
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
