IT’S STARTED. THE POWERS THAT BE ARE PREPARING THEIR “JUST DON’T EAT, CITIZEN” PROPAGANDA BEFORE THE COLLAPSE OF THE GLOBAL SUPPLY CHAIN.
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Brave of you to assume we all eat 3 a day.
I haven’t eaten three meals a day in probably 20 years.
I’m always surprised when people say they eat breakfast before work. How do they have time for that? I usually have something around 10 or 11, then an apple or cheese stick or cookie or whatever i can find when i get home around 5, then dinner around 7 or 8. I guess that counts as 3.
I eat breakfast, same thing, every day, for 20 years.
It’s no harder than anything else, just get up early enough to do it.
Takes 30 minutes from start to cleaning my plates.
I also eat something like 7 times a day. More frequent, smaller meals are generally better for most people from a glucose stability perspective. Of course everyone is different, and only you know for sure what timing works for you.
Apparently a lot of people don’t eat breakfast when they first wake up. I don’t, because my body isn’t hungry when I first wake up; it takes an hour or two before I can actually feel like I’m ready to eat something. And I don’t like forcing myself to eat when I’m not hungry because I just feel like shit.
Also I’ve been working on eating slower so I’m not just wolfing everything down and taking massive bites. It can take me upwards of 30 minutes to eat a bowl of cereal.
Same. When my husband is home he makes me a coffee in the morning. Otherwise i just have a water. Nothing sounds good until I’ve been up for a couple of hours.
Yep, I used to be that way (I’m hypoglycemic, meaning blood sugar is stable then drops very suddenly, so I’m not hungry and then I’m starving).
I found just getting into a morning routine of making breakfast helps - but not immediately after getting up. Water, then coffee - takes me about an hour to be ready for food. So I just get up earlier.
It’s that or be starving later, which isn’t going to work for me.
Figuring out what works for you is key.
only you know for sure what timing works for you
I don’t. I just eat when hungry.
Well if only eating when you’re hungry isn’t working for you, I recommend experimenting with specific times to eat a specific amount. That way you can find what does work for you.
How do they have time for that?
I get up at 5:45, bathroom, get dressed until about 6:15, eat breakfast (sandwich and coffee) until 6:40, commute 20 minutes, start work at 7.
grab a banana on your way out, it doesn’t take time as you can eat it in the public transport, is better than not eating anything at all. oh and also a portable coffee makes the day.
Before work, my meals consist of ready to eat options that don’t require preparation. Including eating and dicking around on the computer, I am usually finished within ten minutes.
Unless you’re walking up, immediately getting dressed, then going to work/school, you should have time for something like that.
Just get up early enough? You can eat breakfast during a train or bus ride if you choose food suitable for that…
In fact I generally eat breakfast only on workdays, not usually weekends, because I don’t need any energy in the morning yet when I’m not working.
I wake up early enough to make time. Usually up around 6, do some chores, eat some breakfast, get ready for work, and do the hour drive to work.
Is this a bunch of bots or does nobody else have blood sugar.
You don’t get sugar crashes if you don’t eat copious amounts of sugar
I get them at around 11 in the morning. I eat wholemeal bread with no sugar crunchy peanut butter for breakfast.
Bread and peanut butter are both relatively large sources of sugar…
Depends on exactly what peanut butter you buy, but the popular ones do have a lot of sugar
that’s a very broad statement, unsweetened bread barely has any sugar at all.
In the context of blood sugar, carbohydrates is the sugar being discussed, not cane sugar, and bread in almost all forms is just pure simple carbs. Peanut butter is at least a bit more complex, but would still cause blood sugar problems. If you’re trying to avoid diabetes, daily peanut butter bread is probably a bad call.
Maybe your trouble is the bread. Wholemeal are carbs and carbs are sugar. The sugarless peanut butter should not be causing any sugar crashes.
Caveat. Not a trained specialist here. Just someone who has been trying to sort my issues out and wanting to share.
complex carbs are not comparable to simpler sugars, the body has to do a significant amount of processing to turn the carbs into readily usable sugar.
You also need carbs in your diet, it’s the main fuel source for the body and it’s difficult to avoid anyways (all vegetables have loads of carbs, even peanuts are 17% carbs.
Your body starts producing sugar for you to eat if you fast too long. That’s why they tell diabetics to eat or snack every 2ish hours. To keep your glucose level
It doesn’t produce a huge amount of glucose, mainly a baseline to keep your brain fed. The rest of your body just starts using different sources for food because it generally doesn’t need glucose.
Your body prefers to consume glycogen, which your liver produces from glucose. Most people’s livers store enough to go about a day if they aren’t participating in strenuous activities.
Also, diabetics are told to eat snacks throughout the day because it can be dangerous for them to eat large meals. Large meals often mean a lot of sugar, and since they either can’t produce insulin or are resistant to it, they can’t easily signal to their fat cells to store the excess energy
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People that are fit don’t have to worry about blood sugar.
Type 1 diabetes is a thing.
Right, but most people don’t really know the difference between fit and thin. Thin people can eat poorly and develop diabetes, too.
I’m already on a 1 meal a day over the course of the entire day diet due to poverty. Like not even a big meal. Today my entire days supply of food is going to be a sandwich. I don’t think I need to skip my only meal for the day.
I actually am very lucky to do a lot of foraging that when it’s a good year, supplement what little foods I can buy so it’s not all bad, but I am not eating well. I don’t think many people in America are right now.
Have you applied to SNAP and checked out local food pantries? If you’re down to a sandwich a day I promise that’s what they’re there for! I know availability for services is locally dependent, but I hope you can find something.
Yeah I’m on Medicare but I only get like 37 a month or something on ebt. I’m making too much money for most public assistance as I’ve been on disability for something for decades, but I managed to find a job with decent pay I can actually hold and have been trying to get fully independent. It hasn’t been going well. I’m making too much money for help, but not enough to live.
Still a hell of a lot better where I was like a decade ago. I used to be entirely homeless before I got help. I’m barely surviving but at least I’m doing it with a roof over my head. My situation sucks but I’m one of the lucky ones. Most people like me just fall through the cracks and never get back out.
There’s a food bank in my town (we donate to it) where you can walk in and take food, no questions asked. I have to think there’s something like that near you?
There is but it’s not a walk in affair. It has too many people depending on it and not enough food. I’m not exaggerating when I say unless you show up 4 to 5 hours early, there’s a solid chance you won’t be getting anything. It only runs every first and third Wednesday of a. Month, and you need proof of residency, a utility bill, a photo ID, and proof you’re on ebt to get signed up. It’s not a reliable source of food. Once or twice a year If there is simply no other way I’ll take the gamble and wait and hope I get there early enough to get something good, but I usually try to fend for myself.
I live in a very rual area and they have very limited resources for people who need help. We don’t have any public transportation whatsoever. It’s not an easily surviveable place for people in poverty, I’m extremely lucky to have a job out here. I just don’t have the resources to leave. No family, no real friends, no money or savings. It’s a bad situation. I’ve been in it for years.
I appreciate the help and advice, but I’m not a good target for it.
Well that sucks, I’m sorry to hear that. If only we lived in a country that bothers to take care of its people.
Are there churches that do stuff? Or a Sikh community? My church has a free meal after the last Sunday service and they have a fridge sitting outside their hall where you can leave and take meals.
I don’t want to talk too much about what’s around me just out of data privacy reasons but I appreciate the help. I’ll figure it out. I’ve been living like this for years and I’m fine.
:'-( hard for me to understand that most don’t see food as a right. Most especially in Canada / USA / Europe will never understand true hunger and poverty. I see this as good and bad. Would be best if no one ever had to know.
I was homeless for just shy of five years a little over a decade ago before I got help and eventually got where I am now. It’s not much, it’s not a good situation, but it’s better than where I was and there’s hope of it improving. I’m doing a lot better than the vast majority of the people I knew back then.
I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
I grew up in childhood on one meal a day (or one meal every two days often as not) due to poverty, and I guess it set up a pattern - I very rarely eat three meals a day in adulthood. I used to always skip breakfast (nowadays I tend to just have a yoghurt with my coffee mostly because I tell myself it’ll be healthy, not because I’m hungry), and then I usually have lunch OR dinner, but very rarely both.
Of course, when I was young I was horribly thin (6’3" and 110lbs when I left home at 18), now I eat considerably more, so that changed - but the meal habits didn’t.
ADHD, I usually eat when i get the shakes.
It’s like a built in alarm!
We? 3 meals a day is warranted for manual labor-heavy jobs (like farmer, construction). I, in IT&tech, eat breakfast, maybe a snack if it’s long inbetween and cook something at evening.
I often do heavy work and still usually skip breakfast, sometimes lunch too, eating just dinner then second dinner in the evening.
Same here, I eat when I need to. Breakfast often doesn’t agree with me.
This is the way.
yeah i can confirm, my calorie intake like doubled when i worked in agriculture for a few weeks
You are not supposed to eat the agriculture
This kills the agriculture
eh it boosts morale to eat the literal fruits of one’s labor
I just eat whenever I feel hungry on no particular schedule. It is 6:43 PM where I am at and I only ate two hard-boiled eggs ten minutes ago all day. Lololol.
Yeah. Jobs kinda force it on me depending. If I can’t eat on the job then I want something in my belly before and I will grab something for lunch and I want to eat when I get back home. When at home I don’t like to eat for awhile after waking up and then sometimes eat one more meal as an early dinner and I don’t like to eat after 8pm and usually not after 7.
Now try feeding an entire family a healthy diet.
Easy. Pot of seasoned beans.
Bowls of Rae-Juusto with tomatoes in vinegar on the side.
Caprese Salad.
1.5kg of blueberries.
Bunch of boiled eggs with some seasoned broccoli.
(These are all separate meals btw)
Spinach, tomato, feta, olive salad with a bit of olive oil.
A wok of stir fried Bok Choy with garlic and shiitake mushrooms.
Stir fried portabello Mushrooms, bellpeppers and onions with oyster sauce.
Baked potato that’s mashed into with chuncks of sausage.
Chickpeas with fried eggs and curry.
Lentil, potato, and carrot paste boiled with chicken stock and mashed together with a touch of butter and eaten as a sandwich with some fried eggplant slices.
And on weekends, for something fancier, maybe a kilo of smoked salmon with bread, or some whole pork neck I cut from a bulk package and marinaded earlier in the week with broccolinni on the side, or some grilled pork chops with grilled spring onions and steamed sugarsnaps 🫛
I don’t have kids but I do have 2 (maybe 3 soon?) partners to feed, and adults eat more than kids 😅
So I can say these feeds 3-4 adults
Who is ‘we’ exactly? Did I need someone’s permission?
I’m not reading the article because I’m lazy.
My mother. We had a strict 3 meals a day and were always hungry.
most people in the states actually think they’re going to die immediately if they skip a meal, let alone two.
the “never don’t eat, for any reason, ever–or you will DIE” mindset is one of the things we’re most force-fed from birth onwards.
it’s becase if you skip a meal, that’s money that wasn’t spent. if everyone skipped a meal, that’s a lot of money that wasn’t spent. we can’t have that in capitalism. therefore, eat abundantly and often. it doesn’t matter what, as long as it’s something you bought
I’ve found the opposite. I find that a lot of the traditions regarding food don’t stem from capitalism, but from vestiges of poverty and food insecurity no matter the economic system that poverty came from.
Grandma is a lot more likely to use food as a way to communicate love if she went through food insecurity as a child.
true, grandma would be absolutely horrified to hear anyone ate just one meal yesterday, on purpose, and plans to do it every day this week. it’s almost blasphemy
but also the corporations selling everyone quick easy cheap (and disgustingly unhealthy) food-like substances at the drive thru and breakfast aisle certainly don’t want anyone skipping any meals either. in fact they want you to be eating all day every day
the difference is grandma doesn’t want anyone to feel like they felt in the depression, not knowing when they’ll eat again, and corporations just want your money
Capitalism will sell what people buy. Capitalism will sell high calorie food. Capitalism will also still weight loss systems and drugs.
so you just want people to ignore it?
It just seems unnecessary to bring it up in every barely-related thread. We’re all aware of serious problems but not every discussion has to be taken over by the doomer mindset. I subscribe to the fun little communities to get a break from the serious shit, we don’t all need to be talking about the bad stuff all the time!
Do what you need for your body to function properly. If that’s the 3 meals a day deal then fine. If you eat small items throughout the day to maintain energy levels for health reasons or because that’s how your body operates best is fine as well. We are seriously hitched up on this stupid concept of “normality” in society.
Well, fasting is not for everyone. Female biology often benefits from regular eating (small quantities), for example. People with gastritis, with PMOS, diabetes, etc. may find fasting hard. Intuitive eating is interesting, but people may have a problem confusing ‘intuition’ with ‘body signals’ that are not great; for example, if I were to intuitively eat while on ADHD medication, I’d eat nothing, and the opposite for bad days, I’d feel that my body is ‘naturally’ asking me for extra food.
So, while I agree that we should be brave to change the three meals a day if it isn’t for us, I’d recommend getting enough information and medical advice before changing anything.
“Stop eating for pleasure” is BS, too. We shouldn’t overindulge, but we need to find food appealing in order to stick with our personalized diet. These messages about food and eating being ‘a problem’ are not good for people in risk of developing an eating disorder…
Sauce for the female biology bit? Ive never heard that before.
I’m going outside today. I’ll try to answer later, but in case I forget for a few days, google something like: “Is fasting good for women?” or “Fasting and female hormones”, etc. Apparently, fasting can help lose weight, yes, but it can trigger some spikes in cortisol and hormonal changes. I guess because the AFAB bodies are always looking out for “the potential baby” and fasts may trigger some: “beware, you need to be strong for the future baby”. Same reason for stronger fat storage (for “the baby”), I think. But I’m not a doctor and I might be ill-informed (badly informed?).
isn’t this… kinda transphobic?
On the contrary, I am supposing that intersex and other non-binary, divergent sexual individuals who, one way or the other, depend on the estrogens and such hormones will find that their bodies (their brains) are expecting the AFAB/female cycles and details, and then they’ll live the same experience of high cortisol while fasting, the hormonal changes, etc. That’s why I prefer to call it a “female biology” and not “women’s” because there’s probably in here someone who has that body, that sex, but not that gender identity. Also, I’m not a doctor so I don’t know for sure about intersex and trans bodies, but I doubt science knows a lot more, TBH. We’ll have to wait for science to research bodies inclusively.
i haven’t had 3 meals in a day in years
i eat when i feel like it, which is more like 1 meal plus a few snacks per day
3 meals a day are fine. So are two meals a day or five. That was precisely MFK Fisher’s point, paraphrased in the article’s introduction. What you eat and how much are far the more important concerns.
I haven’t eaten three meals a day since I was in middle school. And not because I couldn’t afford to.
I’ve found that I’m actually less hungry throughout the day, if I skip breakfast. So, even when I then have lunch, I’m satiated much quicker.
My working theory is that my stomach shrinks when empty, in particular throughout the night. So, if I don’t shove down breakfast in the morning:
- My stomach can shrink even smaller until lunch.
- There is less empty space in the non-stretched stomach, so less hunger.
- When I do eat lunch, the smaller stomach fills up quicker, meaning I shove down less food for lunch, too, and therefore my stomach doesn’t get particularly stretched until dinner either.
i think that actually it’s not so much about physiological changes happening to your body when you don’t eat; it’s more about signaling
your body is put into this “efficiency” mode when you skip breakfast. it means, you should get up and gather for food, instead of having it already provided. so your body uses food more efficiently.
