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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 7 months ago

China is winning in every imaginable way

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China is winning in every imaginable way

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to news@hexbear.netEnglish · 7 months ago
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The West is de-industrialising itself in the quest for Net Zero. The People’s Republic is not
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  • RNAi [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    The west is deindustrializing in the quest for Net Zero

    Lmao thats a fucking lie

    Wait, wait

    The west is […] in the quest for Net Zero

    Still a fucking lie

    • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]@hexbear.net
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      Net zero what? Net zero wage payments? Bc I know they’re not talking about hitting climate goals lol

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        The only net zeros goal that the west is actively pursuing is genociding every palestinians alive and other natives around the world.

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        They’re trying to net additional zeros at the ends of their bank accounts.

        Wait this is a 6 month old repost?

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    His main point isn’t even true, China is installing more electric arc furnaces every year. As of January 2024, China has installed 151 million metric tons per year of operating EAF capacity, exceeding the 143 MMt/y needed to achieve the 15% EAF production target by 2025.

    British steel, for comparison, has an operating (blast furnace) capacity of 5.9 MMt/year. Yet its going to take until 2032 for them to convert 4% of what China can do in a year? LMAO

    So yes, they are winning in every imaginable way xi-lib-tears

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      lmao, that’s more than Europe’s total steel production. Keep cryin’ colonizers

      https://www.eurofer.eu/statistics/production-of-crude-steel

    • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      British steel, for comparison,

      An Indian company shut down British steel production last year

      Ta ta!

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        After the very same company nearly did the same to Poland you would think other countries would think twice before letting them have their strategic resource production but alas.

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    skimming this it looks like all of the deindustrialization he describes is due to profit-maximizing decisions, which he then pretends were made for environmental reasons

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    Must be nice to live in a country where people are actually put to work instead of your choice of unemployment or two minimum wage jobs (and even then good luck getting an interview) because porky is way too picky to hire anymore.

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      I do hear that china has very high youth unemployment though but idk how the statistics are made if lots of those young people are in university or training I guess it’s not to bad

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        I remember looking it up and it was about the same as Europe but higher than the US.

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          It’s at 18.8% which is high here where I am it’s around 10%

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    I have a feeling he is not an environmentally conscience person

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      his implied point is cutting carbon emissions is bad

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        Mr. President, we must not allow a CO2 gap!

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        This is probably inevitable tbh. Climate Change will affect the global south worse than the west. So at some point the west is going to actively try to make emissions worse in order to “punish” the rest of the world for opposing colonialism.

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          My read is not that. The “news” article is basically lamenting how the UK/Europe is handicapping itself “green” regulations, so their industry moves into evil China’s realm. And that this action doesn’t even do its purported goal of reducing CO2 emissions because he says that China “continues to build more new coal-fired power plants than the rest of the world combined.”

          I’m not sure if that claim is true, but his argument is not, “therefore we need to pass laws/tariffs on CO2-produced goods” for the sake of the planet. His point is the green regulations will enslave the west to China. Literally. “The inevitable end result will be subservience to China.”

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            I think you misunderstand me, I agree with your point. If anything I was going further than you were, I was saying that the west will actively increase emissions in order to make life harder for people in the global south as a form of “revenge” as the west slips into irrelevance on the international stage.

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    but at what cost

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      Tons of CO2 particles that could have joined their friends and families in Earth’s upper atmosphere but now aren’t going to because the Chinese are genociding them with their “clean” (read “pure”, obviously a dogwhistle for gas supremacy) technologies.

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        The righteous Carbon Liberation Front is being oppressed by the evil CCP!!!

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          Carbon Control Party

          :kelly:

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    By the time the west has gone through its collapse phase, and begun to try something new socially and economically, it’s going to be so far be behind.

    Even from a purely nationalist chauvinist angle, neoliberalism has been an unmitigated disaster.

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    xigma-male

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    https://archive.ph/IEAcX

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      Summary:

      The West Is Falling because our green energy is made by Chinese producers and because said green energy is weaker than fossil fuels because it’s too woke

      Carbon emissions are still bad when the reds do it though cause they’re caring more about supplanting the international-community-1 Free World international-community-2 than about the environment because they still have coal power plants

      The enemy is both woke and unwoke etc

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    some-controversy

  • bolshevikLovelace [she/her, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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    screenshot of a comment under the article, reads "Time for Western countries to shut down and defund not the police departments but Universities which gave up producing valid science, intellectuals. The Root cause are crackpot socialists and corporate commies."

    seeing China’s W’s, maybe we need more corporate commies

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