• Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldM
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    2 hours ago

    Sorry. I can’t do that. I can’t cancel my subscription to Chatgpt. I just can’t…

    …because I never subscribed in the first place.

  • tux@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    3 hours ago

    Can we get some citations besides an image someone posted? I did a cursory look and couldn’t substantiate any of this. The only real news is Nvidia saying their last round of investments in openAI and Anthropic would probably be their last.

    Genuine question. I know it’s fun to hate on AI slop and openAI in general, but there are enough real facts, don’t feel like we need any made up ones to win folks over

  • Glytch@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    5 hours ago

    Unfortunately I can’t help with the acceleration. Can’t cancel a subscription that never started

    • Joeffect@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      54 minutes ago

      Dude wtf did you just do… my subscription isn’t active any more after reading your comment…

      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldM
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        2 hours ago

        Well…I’m not saying that’s a bad idea, per se, but…if you are going to do this, make it blatently obvious it was a break-in.

        Then, put several rubber duckies in the water tank of their toilets. Big enough that they won’t fit in the hole.

        See, it’s the type of thing that they won’t discover for months/years. They’ll long have forgotten about the break-in, and won’t connect the dots there.

        It will just be something that confuses the fuck out of them for the rest of their lives.

  • LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    4 hours ago

    Ahh man, I never once used chatgpt cause I have a brain. I wish I could cancel it just to be one more person to cancel, but I knew it was a scam when it came out years ago.

    • DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      4 hours ago

      LLMs like ChatGPT do have their uses and I don’t think we can say they’re absolutely scams. As someone living in another country, they help me proofread my comms and documents so I don’t have any spelling mistakes or weird grammar in them.

      Likewise, for coding they can find logical mistakes quickly and are usually good at translating from one programming language to another. So I can see their value as assistants of sorts, but the new hype where all human labour is being replaced by AI makes it very difficult to support these enterprises.

      • bthest@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        3 hours ago

        I draw the hard line at using AI to generate content/writing/software that other people will be exposed to without being explicitly warned and informed first. I hope you’re slapping GENERATED/MADE/EDITED USING AI headers and watermarks on all that stuff.

      • jj4211@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 hours ago

        they can find logical mistakes quickly

        I just had a lovely afternoon of trying to unwind a mess someone vibe coded their way into with Opus 4.6… Which I have to mention model and version every time or else someone comes along and says ‘Well Opus 4.6 won’t make mistakes!’ when it absolutely does and I’m so tired of people overstating how good Opus is.

        So far they create the mistakes quickly and when it happens they generally are at a loss on what to do, and it becomes messy because the vibe coder went way past the point of failure and now I have to extricate what the hell they were doing…

        Though I will say today the ‘review my commit’ feature did catch one issue legitimately, though it flagged about 5 others erroneously and in a couple of cases really really wanted to change correct code to do exactly the wrong thing for some reason.

        The codegen can be useful if watched carefully, but things will happen like after porting dozens of functions mostly fine to a replacement library, for some reason it decided to delete a function and replace it with an if/else chain of every test case and hard code passing results rather than porting the function to the new library (which upon manual inspection was just a two line change)…

  • Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    5 hours ago

    Why would I pay for a babbling idiot?

    That’s free every where, at any time.

    It’s me, okay? I’m the babbling idiot, don’t need another

  • stylusmobilus@aussie.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    5 hours ago

    Holy shit do people subscribe to this?

    Sorry but outside search and maybe in the background elsewhere I’ve never used it.

    • Fizz@lemmy.nz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      4 hours ago

      The average person has a completely different relationship with tech than people here. At Christmas I was shocked to find out how many of my family were daily AI users and the kids completely relied on it. Most of them are smart people, I wonder if that’ll be the same in a few years.

  • Tattorack@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    9 hours ago

    There is no reason for me to cancel my ChatGPT subscription if I never even started a ChatGPT subscription.

    Not sure how anyone can say “fuck AI” and still actually sorta use AI.

    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      ·
      edit-2
      7 hours ago

      My university automatically gives all students premium subscriptions to multiple chatbots.

      Meanwhile acquiring a local bus pass is case-by-case process to save money from students who do not use that service.

      I don’t know why they actively refuse to do the same with microsoft products.

      My tuition money funds 4 different chatbot services to 30,000+ students. I feel like I should apologize at this point.

      (I still refuse to use any of them tho cause fuck AI)

      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        5 hours ago

        And then those Unis will bitch and moan about students using AI to help with essays or other works. It’s like giving a kid a calculator then asking them to not use it during a math test.

      • T156@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        4 hours ago

        I don’t know why they actively refuse to do the same with microsoft products.

        Maybe the subscriptions are seen as them “keeping up with technology”, which isn’t the case for the bus pass?

        For a while, my university was offering a degree project on cryptocurrencies, for example, because cryptocurrencies were seen as the future for a time, and they would be falling behind if not. Even though it was a few years after cryptocurrencies were going out of vogue (this was before NFTs came about). So they wouldn’t mind that, but the bus pass would be instead seen as a waste of money if they just handed it.

    • Aedis@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      8 hours ago

      I can use ai and still hate myself for having to use it. I don’t really have a choice at this point. And I still hate ai.

    • French75@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 hours ago

      I’m here to learn and gain perspective. I’m not in the “fuck ai” camp. In my view, problems arise from how people use the tools they have, not necessarily the tools themselves.

      I did delete my openai account., but it wasn’t a paid account, and I hadn’t used it in years, so no real loss for them. I do still occasionally use local LLMs. I like to be informed and aware of what’s happening in the world around me, and AI is definitely happening, like it or not. Society doesn’t ever go backward in technology.

      • PhoenixDog@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        5 hours ago

        AI is fine as a tool. The problem is too many individuals, as well as corporations are using AI as a replacement to critical thinking, problem solving, and straight up replacing humans. Companies want to replace paying workers with AI tools to do their job. Humans are replacing social interaction with AI partners.

        There’s a huge difference in me asking an AI bot to find me the best winning streak of the Buffalo Sabres of the NHL since 1970, vs replacing my social interaction with my girlfriend with a chat bot who will always say yes.

        • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          5 hours ago

          Yep, it makes a decent preliminary editor for writing. It can give good technical advice, if things are unclear or clunky, pacing, etc. You don’t want to follow it blindly, but it’s not a bad instant beta-reader.

  • orioler25@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    9 hours ago

    It is kinda concerning how few people actually remember the 2008 Recession and what precedent the US state solidified in its response. A key feature of neoliberal politics is the extraction of public capital through state subsidies and cronyist deal-making. These companies understand that bailouts are a genuine and secure route for capital injection should they sustain a consistent loss. Y’all think it’s a coincidence all this coverage of AI company losses followed their realization that there is no way for the US to build up its infrastructure to effectively challenge Chinese AI capabilities?

    This is the business model, it’s why they’re so open and vocal about AI sucking even though they depend on its speculative value and its why they’ve spent so much on collecting liquidation assets in hardware and real-estate despite the obvious inability to meet the infrastructure demands.

    • Tattorack@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      9 hours ago

      Oh I remember 2008 quite. I lost most of my teenage years to homelessness because economies collapsed due to America’s capitalist bullshit.

      During that time I had to struggle for food, had junkies threaten and attack my family, and nearly died shitting and puking blood due to contaminated water.

    • PumpkinSkink@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      7 hours ago

      I don’t think you can really bail OpenAI out tho. The bailout worked in 2008 because the government could just buy the 700 billion of “toxic assets” and the financial institutions would return to a self-sustaining state of affairs, like they had been before making a bunch of really risky bets on mortgages. If you gave OpenAI 700 billion they would burn it at an unfathomable rate and still lose money because their underlying business model isn’t functional - they only lose money. OpenAI is the toxic asset here. A bailout of them would be more like if the government had paid all of the delinquent home-owners’ mortgages for one month; Next month they would be unable to pay again.

  • Rakonat@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    102
    ·
    13 hours ago

    My only regret is I never had a chatgpt subscription in the first place to cancel.

    • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      12 hours ago

      Me too. Sorry guys. The only thing I could cancel is my Ollama free tier account but i don’t think that’s going to make much of an impact.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      9 hours ago

      Yeah, I appreciate the duck duck go ai chatbots, since they are free and don’t have the limit that using chatgpt directly for free had. Plus you can select other models (haven’t even been using chatgpt).

    • tempest@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      12 hours ago

      I didn’t either but would still use the free one from time to time.

      Easy enough to switch to Gemini or Claude or whatever.

      • greygore@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        12 hours ago

        If we weren’t already boiling the oceans, I’d say that you should continue to use the free tier. A lot. Drive up their costs as much as possible without giving them any revenue by constantly asking it to generate useless crap.

        • DeckPacker@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          edit-2
          12 hours ago

          No, that’s a bad idea. They literally make up their economics. They don’t care abo about money, because they’ll just keep borrowing more and more of it. Just look at their behaviour over the last three years.

          What they really want is usage go up and in turn their power they have over their userbase. You using their product to generate useless crap at best just waists power and water. At worst the AI will give a a psychological complex.

          It won’t hurt their bottom line, trust me. You can only loose.

          • jaybone@lemmy.zip
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            9 hours ago

            Yeah this is all Dot Com 1.0 bubble economics bullshit. How soon they forget.

          • ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 hours ago

            And data collection. People think they’re good if they just don’t give it personal info but you’re definitely being fingerprinted and tracked. If they haven’t already they’ll eventually partner with meta or google (in the case of Gemini that’s obviously already done) to match any fingerprinting to much denser profiling. Plus they’re designed in a way to encourage you to let your guard down and talk casually, which disarms you and makes it more likely you mention identifying info they can’t determine from IP and fingerprinting.

            OpenAI has already added advertisement so this is definitely occurring. No one buys ads in this day and age without robust audience targeting