You could always not support genocide, it’s not hard
But then celebrated war criminals will stop joining me for videos
If you asked her, I’m sure she’d she doesn’t support genocide and that she doesn’t want it to happen.
But the tenor of that infamous tweet was one of nihilistic resignation, which like… On the one hand it’s kind if a distinction without a difference, the resulting inaction is the same.
But on the other hand, I do think it’s worth distinguishing, because her reasoning is honestly way more frustrating than just outright genocide support. If someone openly supports it, then ok cool, you’re evil and you’re my enemy.
But this kind of nihilistic resignation is… Just fucking annoying. The Palestinian people are still here, and they’ve already been through so damn much. So to throw up you’re hands, as a rich white woman, and say there’s nothing you can do, and that it’s a lost cause, why? Because you saw some upsetting videos online? Because some peopl were mean to you on Twitter?.. It makes me wanna beat my head against a wall! .
If you really boil down what that tweet says, her position is indistinguishable from Ethan Klein’s. That position being Israel is committing a genocide, but calling them out on it is antisemitic. The only difference is that she’s smarter than Ethan and can dress it up in nicer language.
Idk, Ethan doesn’t even pretend to feel bad about the whole genocide thing. There’s absolutely no light in his eyes. He’s opportunistically saying what he needs to.
Natalie, meanwhile, I think genuinely feels horror at the situation, and is so paralyzed by it, and her own stupid twitter addiction, that she’s cajoled herself into a similar position.
It’s like how you can solve a math problem in different ways. At the end of the day they both got to the same conclusion, so in that sense, we can just ¯_(ツ)_/¯ and declare them heinous dipshits. But at the same time, I do think it matters how people get there.
Wahhhh how dare someone post clips of the episode I went on ?
Like wtf do you expect? Someone not to post any clips ? If you go on a show and lose the debate then the clips are going to be you losing the debate.
Twitter leftists: “Briahna is owning ContraPoints”
ContraPoints: “I lost the debate”
Reality: Briahna was just asking basic questions and logical follow-ups that every lib has already seen on their social media feeds thousands of times in dozens of various forms and should have a prepared lie to counter it, but still doesn’t for some reason!? You can just call it “Russian disinformation” on social media and ignore it, but you can’t do it in an interview that you agreed to!!
This just shows that no one wants to work anymore, the libs MUST KNOW that going on leftists podcasts and lying in a slick way would still win them some votes and visibility, compared with not going on those podcasts at all, but they can’t even come up with some bullshit response to basic questions.
Briahna was just asking basic questions and logical follow-ups that every lib has already seen on their social media feeds thousands of times in dozens of various forms and should have a prepared lie to counter it, but still doesn’t for some reason!?
Contra doesn’t see any of those points because she blocks literally every single leftist that responds to her with any disagreement. She tunes it out, does not want to engage with literally anything that disagrees with her, and throws a strop when she isn’t unquestioningly worshipped.
I think they could come up with lies but they despise anyone who disagrees with them to such a degree that they refuse to do it. They think the left should just knuckle under and support them as a matter of fact, they don’t think they should lower themselves by trying to actually appeal to the left.
“i don’t mind if i lose a debate to bad faith so im okay with going on a podcast called bad faith”
clip gets posted, claims its bad faith
“how could she do this to me :(”
This reads like trump tweets lol. “Brianna joy gray, JILL STEIN VOTER, comes to me, she says ‘mr trump will you please be on my podcast’?”
And so on. You get it. The whole aside about women not getting enough recognition and she’s really nice and so on and then straight to the dig at her? Pure Trump
Literally reads like one of his recent tweets relating to the Iran war. ‘LOSER who totally did not own me (is actually owning owning me btw) because I have owned myself. I trust that Iran will be DECENT and not own me further because I’ve already owned myself and have thus won the war’
She says she’s acting in (deep inhale) bad faith. She says it folks! Some people, they say I act in bad faith, but I would never admit - I don’t act in bad faith - would you admit you did? But I still go on there, because I’m good! I’m good! People say it all the time! And I do it because she’s a woman, a beautiful woman - you’re not allowed to say that anymore by the way, but she is - and women, they dont get enough credit! I could have a (deep inhale) podcast and I would be great at it! Wouldn’t I? But she’s good too! And she doesn’t get enough credit! Not because shes pretty - for her age - but because she’s a woman! So I go! I go to bad faith! And what do they do? They ask me questions! So many questions
Contra is so washed.
How can someone be ehis washed? Itis almost sad. Why is it so hard for her to admit she’s just wrong?
It’d be great if she went that far, but the saddest truth is that she doesn’t even have to do all that. If she wasn’t addicted to Twitter she could coast the rest of her life on putting out one video essay per year with her established fanbase and avoid controversy by simply not saying things publicly.
The J.K Rowling effect
does it count as washed when she was always a liberal
I guess, because liberals can have good work, I remember seeing a few of her videos that were definitely good.
She was always punching left but at least it was endearing when it was with strawman characters like Tabby and Tatiana.
What is she even doing at this point? She’s not stupid. She’s no Brianna Wu. No doubt that her audience of left-libs is overwhelmingly anti-genocide. Is she actually to the right of John Oliver on Israel?
i mean john oliver is from europe isn’t he? thats a shade of pinko
No doubt that her audience of left-libs is overwhelmingly anti-genocide.
I admire your optimism
The Democratic voterbase is 80% anti-genocide. I don’t think the average Contrapoints viewer is to the right of the average Kamala Harris voter.
At this point I think they might be lol
I think she pivoted to grifting center-right rainbow capitalist libs.
That makes no sense to me. She makes like monthly six figures off of patreon radlibs. If she believed in nothing whatsoever, the correct “grifter” move would be to say “Fuck Israel, free Palestine” and be done with it. Why would she piss off her established pay piggies to appeal to an audience of like 7 Democratic consultants?
She’s to the right of John Oliver on almost everything.
live virgil texas reaction
She did finally take him out of the banner I noticed
losing is a part of my artistic process
okay
I feel seen
Shit, forgot my shades 😎
:classic:
Natalie Lose
Damn, drag her
Stealing that excuse tbh
It’s a shame Chapo won’t joke about this because doing so would invite mentioning Virgil
Who?
former member of the pod credibly accused of SA and rightfully dropped and received the
treatmentHes fired
They did a whole bit about her shitty Gaza tweet from like 2 years ago. Felix called her “one of there most regrettable guests”.
her shitty Gaza tweet from like 2 years ago
That tweet was way more recent than that
Was it? Damn I really can’t keep track of time anyone. Too much shit keeps happening.
Does that include Walther?
WHAT DID THE “ABANDON HARRIS” VOTERS NOT SUPPORT, NATALIE?"
Link to the podcast episode
The Left Only Wants to “Endlessly Critique Power”? (w/ Contrapoints) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mcter7NYMNM
Link to the BJG tweet https://x.com/briebriejoy/status/2052506934922625475
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integral part of my artistic process
You tweet the same brain-dead centrist slip for money that literally thousands of more successful media ‘personalities’ (or lack thereof) have been spouting since the 90s. Literally one of the only jobs an LLM could take and improve on.
How hostile is the interview? I presume not that much if she agreed to hang out later
It was only hostile if you think that pointing out that the Democrats are right-wing is hostile.
So Contra thought it was super hostile, got it
The clip I saw was her getting asked where the line was for voting dem, ie would you vote for Trump 2016 if that was running against Trump 2024 on the dem ticket.
Then said she honestly thought/thinks Nancy Pelosi actually wanted to get people something better than the ACA
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Bad fsith is known for pushing back. Something any profesional interviewer should do
