Mormon leaders, military veterans and elected officials reacted with anger to a new Department of Defense policy that does not consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a Christian religion as part of a wider effort to cut down the U.S. military’s list of recognized faiths.

“The Pentagon’s decision to list The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints apart from other Christian faiths is wrong and needs to be corrected,” Republican Rep. Mike Kennedy, of heavily Mormon Utah, wrote on X on Sunday.

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    When you accept that others rights can be taken away, you must also accept that your own rights can be taken away.

    If you accept that groups can be excluded from society, you must also accept that your group may one day be excluded.

    If you accept that might makes right, you must accept that one mightier than yourself will one day come along.

    If you live by the sword, you will likely die by the sword.

    Idk how many times this has to happen throughout history before people act learn from it.

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      Not just that, their society is fiercely hierarchical, so by its very nature there is already always someone directly above them, and this particular movement has already shown that they don’t see them as equals.

      In the wise words of Jello Biafra:

      In the real Fourth Reich you’ll be the first to go

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    😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

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      yeah we’re like three quarters of the way through that Niemöller poem now

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    I wish Mormons would be outraged over something that mattered, like the sexual abuse in their church, or the fact their church supporting mormon thieves and scammers across the country, who have stolen over a billion dollars from their fellow Americans.

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      While sexual abuse does occur in the church, the trick of having the church operate as it does is to catch predators. Similar to how Donald Trump is the orange cop-in-chief, because God and the FBI knows who offered him what.

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      One just has golden plates and the other doesn’t. Pretty much the same thing.

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        It really isn’t. The amount of control they exercise over their congregants and money they require to stay in good standing is astronomical compared to lost other christian denominations. Their propaganda, investment and political arms make them the biggest existential threat to North American democracy and culture as a centralized religious organization.

        Not to mention the basis of the faith is that Jesus came to America and your skin color determines if your ancestors were sinners. That’s cuckoo bananas even by christian standards.

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          Yes well I was really just trying to be funny (poorly) I must admit, good points I’m glad you stated though.

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          This could impact a lot of Trump votes if not corrected too. I don’t think even he’s so dumb to alienate such a large voter base.

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    I’m honestly more surprised that JWs and Christian Scientists are listed under “Christian” than that Mormons aren’t. All of those are considered cults, rather than legitimate denominations, by mainstream Christianity (Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant).

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        Wasn’t it the Mormons whose founder got some glasses from an angel, which allowed him to read the bible? Well, that is what I call a fairytale.

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            If you read the Bible and take everything literally, I cannot help you. I assume, however, that you are well aware that certain parts were intended for different audiences or types of believers. Some passages convey a different message than, for example, the Quran or the Torah. As for the meaning of secularisation and the distinction between „religia“ and „ecclesia“, I’ll leave it to you to look it up on Wikipedia or another reliable source.

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                No prob with that. Keep just in mind that the Bible, especially the New Testament, is to a certain part a parable.

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                  The parables are the stories that Jesus tells in order to make a point or to teach people about something.

                  It’s very clear when something happening in the Bible is a parable or not.

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        If I recall the original definition of the modern cult vs religion division is just what ever the British crown recognized as legitimate. Lol

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      Mormonism is definitely a cult, zero bones about it. But the emotional attachment–and the subsequent damage–is very very real.

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    Guess what, self-described "good Christian"s of America, you’re going to get kicked out of the in-group as soon as it’s convenient for the MAGA Republican party.

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    They came for the Lefties, and the Mormons did nothing.

    They came for the Transgenders, and the Mormons did nothing.

    They came for the immigrants, and the Mormons did nothing.

    Now they’re coming for the Mormons, and…yeah, we could help, but fuck those treasonous pedophile weirdos.

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    Did you know that Mormons are actually preferentially given security clearances, since the United States Constitution is one of the foundational documents of their faith? Do you realize how many people with positions near nuclear sites, NSA datacenters, and CIA operations these bumblefucks are aggravating?

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      Did you know that Mormons are actually preferentially given security clearances, since the United States Constitution is one of the foundational documents of their faith?

      I didn’t know that about LDS folks. Being a founding document of their faith, they must really be in support of the Constitution and would oppose all who would desecrate the document and its principles of law and liberty.

      “According to Fox News’ 2024 election exit poll, among the Latter-day Saints surveyed 64% supported Trump and 32% supported Vice President Kamala Harris.” source

      …oh, nevermind.

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      This is because most Mormons go on missions to other countries and know a second language from doing so. Its an asset to the government to have traveled people who speak multiple languages after all especially those from a religious background who fall in line easily and are usually conservative.

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        Yep, and they don’t tend to be addicted to any substances or gambling. There are many reasons. The point being that, for one reason or another, many of the intelligence services and highest-clearance positions are filled with Mormons, and the government just told them that they aren’t part of the club anymore.