I wanted to visit before the collapse, but it didn’t work out for multiple reasons.
Now I’m doubly sad that I didn’t go. Because if I would indeed decide to go now, it would be a coin toss if a random typo in some papers would land me in a gulag
Well people don’t want to be sold into slavery to El Salvador. Big surprise!
I don’t blame anyone, there is no need to personally see the circus that is our country currently. Watch the circus from stands unless you want to be a part of it.
Those charts are soon going to look a lot worse. I know of many people who had already paid for their vacation before the tariffs were announced, so they went anyway. New bookings for flights from Canada to the U.S. are down over 70%.
Yeah I think so too.
People have always talked about a long weekend in New York or a cruise from Miami.
Now it’s just dead. No mention of the US at all, other than the blithering baboon.Would not want to be a trans atlantic airliner this sunmer
At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if you are trans-atlantic, their DEI policy mistakes this for something LGBT-related and you face automatic detention.
For sure family summer holidays are the sort of thing most people would be planning round about now. The lines at Disney World are going to be shorter this year…
Only 20 to 30%?
i really hope the majority of countries boycott the 2028 games and don’t show up in la.
Nazi Germany, China and Russia/Soviet Union set a rather bad precedent for this.
Attendance will double you say?
Yeah, I bet barely anyone will boycott it.
Not even CA can stop the ICE from harassing people at airports.
Couldn’t agree more, people need to get a lot more overt on this.
I won’t set foot on US soil again as long as Trump or any other conservative is running this country.
It’s not even just about how you get shafted at the border nowadays. I simply don’t want to visit a country that is ruled by misanthropic fascists.
And I think that many people will probably feel the same way.
Yep. For the same reason I wouldn’t visit Russia, Turkey, and the likes.
Even though I’d really like to aside from the regimes.
Russia is full of cool architecture and art.
But fuck the current (last 25 years) regime with a rusty crowbar. I’m not stepping a single foot in there.
Disneyland tickets are now affordable?
My country is vast. My country is huge. My country is beautiful and welcoming too. My country won’t jail you because of your thoughts. My country is Canada 🇨🇦 and we have amazing vacationing spots.
Plus, mention you came instead of going to the US and get treated like royalty.
And people should go there ASAP, as pretty soon they’ll probably have to worry about some Belarus-style shenanigans happening as their flight transits US airspace.
It is however extremely expensive.
Extremely expensive? Not a chance.
https://www.budgetyourtrip.com/countrylist.php
Canada is one of the cheapest developed countries to visit.
Your country encourages people to kill themselves over minor treatable diseases they can’t pay for.
encourages people to kill themselves
Encourages? Can you cite a reputable source?
Is the Guardian reputable enough? Because it is true that poverty is a terminal illness, but society is the cause of it!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/canada-cases-right-to-die-laws
I would qualify under this stupid shit
I think you can actually get sent to jail in Canada for a telling a bad joke, but I could be wrong and that’s not at all the point. You’re right, Canada’s vastness and diversity of the people and places is a true blessing.
Mike Ward, a Quebec comedian, was ordered to pay a fine of $42,000 for jokes about Jeremy Gabriel, a disabled singer, after a human rights tribunal ruling. Ward appealed and eventually won his case in the Supreme Court, which ruled that his jokes did not breach Quebec’s Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms. Despite the financial penalties, Ward was not imprisoned.
Ok, not jail.
Well one’s freedom ends when it infringes on another’s
What freedoms are infringed by joke telling?
If it’s only a joke possibly none. If it is slander quite a few, but listing the nuances of the decades of weighting freedom of speach (and press) against the freedom of privacy and human dignity is way too much for a comment
We have the best jokes in Canada. Tell a bad joke? Straight to jail. Tell a joke that’s too good? Believe it or not, also jail
Don’t know why but the last few years when someone says they have the best anything I get super sceptical and start disliking this person for no further reason. Nothing personal I guess.
I take it you haven’t seen Parks and Recreation
I have seen most of it and i know you’re not meaning to sound like Trump but I can’t help to hear his voice in my head as soon as I see ‘we have the best …’
The quote is someone from a dictatorship, so it kind of is meaning to sound like Trump, or rather like the general type of shitbag that Trump is.
Right away.
Europe is used to that, and it is same jokes. Zionism forever!
won’t jail you for your thoughts
as long as you don’t support Palestine lmao
If you enjoy the risk of getting suddenly jailed NK or Iran are way better.
Iran has better food anyway.
People are also extremely welcoming. It’s almost too much :)
As long as you’re male. And white. Iran is still a deeply racist society.
So, the similarities go on!
Yep
You might be right. I can only report from my experience. I can’t say I saw people being not nice to women because of their gender. But you don’t see many things when you’re a tourist.
And stray cats too I think.
Actually, since ICE isn’t sending people to trial, they might be lowering the US statistic lol.
So not only are you safer from getting arrested in Iran, but you’re more likely to receive a trial.
In America, cops can jail you because they feel like it, with no repercussions.
You just made me realize there’s less chance to get imprisioned as a tourist in NK than in USA right now xD
US border is asking questions about your opinion of Trump. No other country does that, even if going out of your way to bad mouth their leadership won’t be appreciated.
The answer “it’s none of my business, you guys elected him.” resulted in being turned away from the border.
they will just expel foreigners for that,
This for real? Any sources on this?
Lemmy anecdote. few if any confirmations in https://www.reddit.com/r/uscanadaborder/comments/1jrmy12/have_you_been_asked_do_you_like_trump_by_a_us/
there is this anecdote: https://www.reddit.com/r/50501Canada/comments/1jptyt2/problems_crossing_into_the_us/
I don’t know for sure, but media not reporting/picking up doesn’t mean anything.
I don’t blame any non-American for staying out of the insanity soup going on here.
Even as a middle age, “white privilege” guy, I’m concerned about traveling outside the U.S. and coming back through immigration. I’m liberal, protester, and strongly anti-Maga on the socials.
i’m currently in the US supporting a queer minority group with services to provide access to an event to a global audience… i’ve done it every year, and this year i’m here only because i’d promised and it seems awful to that group to walk away
next year is going to be really hard: my presence here adds value to the economy and in some small way takes away from the boycott, helps to reinforce american centrism and gives advantage to US citizens (they can attend far easier, etc), not to mention im literally taking a risk that i could be detained for weeks and then banned from coming back
… but on the other hand, if i don’t come am i abandoning the community? am i abandoning a vulnerable group that needs support, and to be shown they’re not alone now more than ever? that globally, queer is normal, fine, valued - that they’re wanted and what’s happening is not normal
i hate that im having to make these choices, and i hate that i feel bad even for feeling conflicted when im not even living through it
IMO: you are tremendously more vulnerable than I am.
If you can leave the U.S. into a stable “home base”, you absolutely should.
From there you can try to use any open source Social groups to continue protesting against Trump.
Protect yourself above all else. Unless you’ve reached a point in your own “circle of life” that you’re willing to die for the insanity of America’s shit storm.
I’m at the age and experience I’m willing to die in defense of kind humanity vs. whatever the fuck is imploding in the U.S.
Best of luck!
Yeah, I don’t want to get detained for a week and sent to el salvador.
Marketing opportunity - TWO countries for the price of ONE!!!
I guess that pineapple they are fucking you with has a silver lining
no shit, dont want to have some border police going through my phone and putting me on detention only to deport me back later
If you’re lucky you’ll be deported back to your own country.
I don’t blame a single person for not wanting to tour the US ATM.
I’m worried of traveling outside of the US because that means I have to come back in through the borders again and be subjected to invasive searches
Land of the free
Ez, just skip the part were you travel back.
I heard something about you can go to EU and Australia for 180 days visa free with a us passport (might not be true, i don’t know) so if you have enough money / a job you can do as a digital nomad you could technically move back and forth and you’d still live in a western country. Although I you could afford that I guess you can buy some kind of golden visa somewhere and just migrate there.
You can look up and compare this kind of thing on this handy website: United States of America Tableau de bord | Passport Index 2025 https://www.passportindex.org/passport/united-states-of-america/
Cool site, thanks for the tip!
On the bright side, if they refuse you entry you get to live somewhere else.
That whole “throwing people in jail for weeks for thought crime” thing isn’t as inviting as Trump thinks, apparently.
Straight from Musk’s playbook of business success.
“I’ve let all the Nazis back on Xitter. Wait! Advertisers! Where are you going?!??”
How long until they start suing tourists for not going to the US?
