• CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world
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    18 minutes ago

    He’s gonna die, calling it now he’s gonna have a tragic accident or sudden ‘suicide’.

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      “Centrist” is just a masquerade for Republicrats to pretend to still be on the left.

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        60 minutes ago

        Just because the US has only 2 real options to vote for doesn’t mean people can have different opinions. It isn’t for nothing that in a country like The Netherlands we have like 40 parties, including centre parties.

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        I’m pro LGBTQ, anti-israel, against consumerism/capitalism, pro socialism. Pro government control on key infrastructure (water, gas, electricity) and better housing and support services. Pro climate policies, pro taxing the rich.

        But I’m also against fossil fuel bans, against bans on firearms, pro military for defence, pro free-speech, pro strict immigration, against ‘PC’ culture, against trans-women in women’s sports, pro merit success.

        Am I left or right? …Or centrist?

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            In women’s sport, I just don’t think it’s fair to women to compete against women who are stronger than them. I only beleive that out of fairness, but I think people have every right to do what they want with their bodies and be accepted for who they are.

            Where another person’s rights begin, another’s ends type of thing.

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          I’m pro LGBTQ

          against trans-women in women’s sports

          No, you’re not pro lgbtq. You’re a TERF at best

          against consumerism/capitalism, pro socialism. Pro government control on key infrastructure (water, gas, electricity) and better housing and support services. (…) pro taxing the rich

          pro merit success

          ??? Do you understand what any of those words mean? “Pro merit success” directly contradicts each of the social policies you claim to support.

          Pro climate policies

          I’m also against fossil fuel bans

          You’re either lying about one of these or you somehow think we can stop climate change without stopping the most significant cause of climate change?

          Does the complete lack of internal consistency in your worldview not bother you at all? You have no defined political leaning, you have a bunch of emotionally driven contradictory political opinions that you clearly have little to no understanding of.

          Given that description, I’d guess you probably call yourself a centrist and vote conservative.

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          That’s basically the Lib-Right/“Libertarianism”

          Edit: Actually I don’t think that’s Libertarian. Its like mix of Libertarian and Auth-Right values

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    Imagine life was a game. You lived for 2025 years. You worked 260 days / year. You made the median US salary.

    You would need to relive that process 3,145 times to match an Oligarch.

    That amount of wealth is unethical while humanity suffers. No one can really fathom “1b dollars.”

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    Before the oligarchs say this is “violence”.

    This can be done peacefully. Just enact a law that taxes everything above like 999 million (or a fewer amount, to be debated on), and if you don’t comply, that’s tax evasion and you go to jail. Complelete peaceful (other than the tax-person we’d have to send to arrest the rich for non-complance), comply and everyone is happy.

    Voila, no more billionaires, and that wealth redistributed will let everyone become a millionaire. Everyone is happy, maybe the 1% cries that they now have a few less yachts and mansions, but like, they can still enjoy that one house, same as everyone else would also have.

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      But could this really be done? As far as I’ve understood, billionaires typically don’t have a billion liquidized and ready for spending. Rather, their value is distributed in ownership of several companies. How would the 100% taxes on ownership in companies be applied?

      Don’t get me wrong, I would love to see it work, but I feel like it’s a lot more complicated than stated. And if a good way of applying those taxes would be introduced, I’m sure the billionaires would either find new ways to make the money untouchable or personally move to a country with looser tax laws.

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        As far as I’ve understood, billionaires typically don’t have a billion liquidized and ready for spending. Rather, their value is distributed in ownership of several companies. How would the 100% taxes on ownership in companies be applied?

        If you can leverage assets to apply for a loan to buy twitter, then you can levarage assets to pay your taxes.

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        That’s what conservatives always claim. Most of them won’t move and even if they do, good riddance. Simply tax their wealth beforehand.

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      You know what? I don’t want it peaceful. They’ve stomped on people there entire lives, forced others to rely on social programs, dig through trash, and work to the bone.

      I want a comeuppance, I want blood, and I want it to be that of every fucking billionaires’ head rolling off the guillotine

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        And you’ll have it. They have enough money to pay an army and you bet they will use that to stop you from taking their wealth. Understand that they have rationalized their immense wealth to the point where they trully believe they deserve it. You can see it sometimes in how they consider themselves hard working geniuses, or decide God somewhat chose them to be ridiculously rich.

        Yes, they will resort to violence (but not themselves, of course). But they won’t need to get their hands too dirty.

        They’ll fund campaigns, they’ll own law enforcements and will wield it against the people, meanwhile they’ll buy propaganda to convince as many people as they can it’s all for the best. That’s easy to predict because they already do exactly that.

        Violent repression of demonstrations, violence and intimidation against activists and journalists. Owning of all the mainstream medias and a large share of the less mainstream ones. All of that is slowly normalized.

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      Voila, no more billionaires

      … in the country with the tax. They’ll just live somewhere else.

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        People have to stop believing that wealthy people will leave instantly once they begin getting taxed. This is just a lie.

        They are wealthy because of their assets and connections. They have houses, appartements, offices and factories. They have a network of influencer in the country they live in, in the city they live in ! They have a big family, kids. It’s actually harder for these people to move out than you and I.

        The money is already escaping. They use any loopholes (fiscal optimization they call it) to pay much lower tax than anyone else proportionally.

        They won’t leave ! Let the tax begin ! The loopholes have to be eliminated so that they cannot convert their wealth to escape tax artificially.

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    One of my favorite hypotheticals is that once someone gets to a billion money they get a trophy that says “I won capitalism” and anything over the limit goes to folk who need it.

    Knowing greed, people would certainly find ways around it, but a gal can dream

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      One of my favorite hypotheticals is that once someone gets to a billion money they get a trophy that says “I won capitalism” and anything over the limit goes to folk who need it.

      And they name a dog park after you. That part is crucial.

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      In a fantasy world I’d go even further to say if you amass $1 billion in wealth you have it all taken away. So either you consistently give away your wealth to keep it below that level or pray that you helped build a society where losing it all isn’t a death sentence.

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      I figure this is why Musk had so many kids; he can divide up his wealth “in trust” between all of them, with himself as the eternal executor.

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    Nobody should have a right to more than, say, 10 million dollars. Any worth over that, tax it at 100%.

    Similarly for companies, tax them dynamically. Ybr bigger the company, the higher the tax. At, say, over a billion dollars, tax it 100%. Limit company sizes to 1000 employees.

    This way, nobody is too big, nobody is too powerful, nobody is too rich

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      10 million seems low only because there are realistic things that can cost more than that. Nothing an individual could buy costs a billion. That’s the heinous part of billionaires in my opinion—it is just numbers on a screen for them to measure their dicks with. No realistic change of lifestyle is happening after the first billion, yet they continue to inhale dollars out of greed and habit.

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      I don’t like the idea of limiting company size - there are a lot of advantages of scale. Instead let’s say any company over 1000 employees must be fully employee owned

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        Make the tax scale into an exponential multiplier. Two companies? Double taxed. Three companies? Your taxes are now cubed. So on and so forth.

        Maybe subsidiaries of larger conglomerates should be taxed this way as well, take giants like Nestle and Unilever down a few pegs.

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    Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

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    No wealth above a certain amount should be inherited. There is no moral justification for absurd amounts of intergenerational wealth.

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      I don’t think “leaving money for my kids” will even be a thing anymore if we all just have UBI, Socialized Healthcare, Tax-Funded Free college, and support for people with diability. I mean, your kida aren’t gonna like depend on your wealth “or else they starve”, with all the automation that is replacing human workers, there will be a huge pool of money for UBI and, the kids can survive on UBI.

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      No wealth above a certain amount. There is no moral justification for absurd amounts of wealth.

      FTFY

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    Mamdani added in his response: “I have already had to start to get used to, get used to the fact that the president will talk about how I look, how I sound, where I’m from, who I am, ultimately, because he wants to distract from what I’m fighting for, and I’m fighting for the very working people that he ran a campaign to empower, that he has since then betrayed.”

    Goddamn, this reads like a response that came from a real socialist playbook. Don’t take the bait on the culture war bullshit, say it’s distraction from helping workers. Wow.

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    Bill Ackman, a billionaire hedge fund manager who has backed President Donald Trump in the past, on Thursday pledged to use his money to bankroll a challenger to Mamdani in the general election.

    Case in point.

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      This might induce me to donate to Mamdani’s campaign. I live in fucking Illinois btw.

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      And how did he get those billions? How many peoples necks did he have to step on to climb his way up. It’s not so much what you do with your billions, it’s how you got them that makes you evil. The only exception to this is probably Bezos ex wife, maybe.

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        She was working for a hedge fund when she met him and they were married for 26 years. She may have given away $19 billion of her fortune, but her net worth is still $36 billion, the same as the original divorce settlement.

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        “Employees are the rungs on the ladder of success. Don’t hesitate to step on them.” -Rule of acquisition #211