I generally find audiophiles to be a pretentious bunch, so this sounds about right.

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    This is a clickbait article to make the reader feel a sense of superiority. The forum thread is linked on the article. It’s not a real blind test. Secondly the title is just a straight up lie, it’s not that they couldn’t tell that the sounds were different, they could not determine the original sound.

    The test includes 4 unmarked 30 second clips of various songs. 1 clip is the original file, 1 clip is the file looped through a copper cable, 1 clip is the file looped through a banana, 1 clip is the file looped through mud. If this were a serious test, the original sample would be labeled so that people would know what the reference point is. Secondly, how would anyone be able to tell the difference between mud and banana? Do you know what a banana sounds like?

    The forum post was just meant to be a silly game and the article treats it as a serious test.

    I have 4 printing of the Mona Lisa. One printing is the original, one printing I dipped in water, one printing I dipped in apple juice, and one printing I dipped in piss. Can you spot which Mona Lisa was dipped in apple juice and which one was dipped in piss? The Mona Lisa is already pretty yellow, which yellow is the correct yellow?

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    The wire isn’t generally something that’s focused on though, is it? Like everyone knows those gold plated cables are scams. I thought the quality of the audio or the speaker/headphones were the big focus.

    Also, sample size of nine people and two of them failed to fill out the survey correctly lol

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    once your cable is shielded (and preferably coaxial, but for audio those get into fantasy territory very quickly) and it fits power of source, there isn’t anything you can do further, your power sources will fuck up much more than cable being 1% better.

    But very cheapish non shielded 3,5mm cables do funny stuff on speakers, you can hear them hum louder when you loop cables or press your fingers on them, so they do be catching 50/60hz from all of the wiring

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    I got a DAC/headphone amp, and replaced all the 192KBs files in my library with 320KBs. Nothing sounds tinny, and I’ve been happy. I’ve never looked into it further, and feel no need to.

    Music has been one of the most important aspects of my life as long as if can remember. Every memory and thought I have has a song attached to it. I wired built in speakers throughout my house so I can always play whatever I feel like.

    I can’t imagine giving a shit about wire composition or watching a waveform for unperceived errors. That sounds more like a mental illness than a hobby.

    I Also mostly listen to music in my ten year old car, which has a dogshit soundsystem, so I guess I’m not an audiophile.

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      watching a waveform for unperceived errors

      I read about a test where supposedly audiophiles were played samples of CDs ripped with different players and then proven to be identical bit by bit, played back on the same system, where supposedly they still insisted they could tell which CDs were ripped with the better player, and tbqh I believe it.

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        I could hypothesize that the difference they’re hearing, if not psychosomatic, would at that point be more likely caused by the speakers/headphones/tubes/amps warming up.

    • Sounds like we have very similar sensibilities, including the limits of what we care about. I also mostly listen in an old car, and I took the plunge and upgraded the speakers with some better coaxial speakers than the stock ones. It was an absolutely great return on investment if you don’t mind a beginner-friendly car project. Easy job to complete in a couple of hours and the customer service techs at Crutchfield are very forthcoming with knowledge and assistance.

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    Is being an audiophile anything close to the same as having ear or musical training though? Any random schmuck can say they like flac files but I wouldn’t expect anyone other than a well trained musician, sound engineer, or musicologist to actually be able to discern the difference between them and a 256 kbps mp3, and even then how significant would that actually be to them?

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      Ear training is more about hearing pitch, and here I think it’s probably a difference in timbre, and I think a major difference with the more standard flac vs mp3 version of this test is dynamic range. Music training would probably help a bit more with dynamics than this specific type of timbre distinction.

      But the reason it’s salient is that “audiophiles” pretend that they can tell a difference and use fucking spectrographic analysis or whatever to point out “imperfections” in a sound file, but it’s all made up and the vast majority of them can’t really tell by listening. So it’s about contesting their claim, I guess.

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      Basically nobody can hear the difference between 320kbps mp3 and flac. Or 256kbps and 320kbps mp3.

      I prefer flac because it works as an archive you can easily render from or use as a wav if needed. In theory repeated re-encodings could introduce artifacts down the line, I don’t have to think about that with flac. Plus the people releasing flacs tend to be nerds, they do good rips. It’s more likely that an audio quality issue will be something like ripping from a CD with scratches or a hole or ripping from dusty vinyl, only doing one pass, etc.

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    At a certain point, your sound quality is going to more affected by the placement of your furniture over any real and perceived improvement in audio equipment. It’s like g*mers who splurge on some graphics card and gaming monitor but completely cheap out on the cable.