- cross-posted to:
- StopAI@thelemmy.club
- cross-posted to:
- StopAI@thelemmy.club
Cross posted from https://sh.itjust.works/post/64317237
Sam Altman claimed we’re already living through the singularity. Is it true, or is it just marketing? Just days before, one of OpenAI’s models escaped from a testing environment and ended up hacking another company’s servers on its own. We analyze how real that claim is and what the experts say.
And from there, we jump to something bigger: can artificial intelligence have a soul? We delve into the debate that has divided physicists, neuroscientists, and philosophers, from Roger Penrose’s quantum theory to the arguments of Sean Carroll and Max Tegmark, including integrated information theory and the thermodynamics of life. Spoiler alert: even physics can’t agree.
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We are not facing skynet, but the techbros, media and government all want us to think so.
They did not “escape”, they were able to find security holes in portly protected environments that they had access to. They performed the same security tests against live sites online, which also had security flaws. They did not spread, or escape, nor are they hiding on servers anywhere like in the movies. They simply performed a remote exploit after using a local one to get internet access.
These things are dangerous, but as a weapon in people’s hands. They still have off buttons, we still have all the control. But the narrative makes it feel like an inevitability, we’ve all watched too much sci-fi and aren’t using critical thinking skill.
What if it was 5grams. 5 grams of pysilosybin in complete darkness.
I don’t think these guys really believe the singularity is near. If they did they’d attempt to prevent it, as an actual AGI would not be controllable.
Preacher says we’re living through the rapture
Sam Altman says a lot of things.
Statistical guessing machine guessed its way into a network. That’s not a singularity. It’s just more complex than a script.
A script that can improve itself is a singularity though, as long as it doesn’t plateau which we yet have to see
High speed random guessing is still random guessing.
Your lock code is 1234.
I can type 4 digit numbers all day until I find it.
Software can do the same faster.
Doesn’t mean it can think.
What do you think is in your brain?
There is also no singularity in the brain
Any evolutionary algorithm can improve itself, that’s not even new technology.
The difference is if it self-improves at general tasks.
That’s still not a singularity.
A singularity self-improves its ability to self-improve. That has not happened.
We also don’t even know if it just spontaneously decided to escape containment, or if they prompted it, i.e.
Self improving is included in “general tasks.”
I don’t really see why it’s important whether or not it needs to be prompted because it’s really easy to write “improve yourself according to human standards” into a chatbox
That’s called variables in memory.
Next time you start it up, it has no idea and random guesses again.
So you save variables to disk.
It starts up and has the variables.
Still random guessing.
AGI solved with this one simple trick, computer scientists hate him
Snake oil salesman.
And the need to Rev up the hype to maximize profit off the bubble.
He needs to delay his company from popping the bubble for as long as possible
iirc alot of the first loans start coming due in… september?
if rates arent cut by then (allowing them to refiance) they’ll have to start pulling some actual revenue out of their ass to pay these loans back…which aint happening…or the chirade officially drops.
He just can’t stop lying and bullshitting, can he?
Not as long as the media keeps reporting on it.
not when the stock price going up depends on him doin the opposite
What stock price? They aren’t a public company.
When the VC money stops, OpenAI dies. Full stop.
Sorry, when the next seed round depends on him lying, him telling the truth is the wrong choice to make in his mind
Can we all chip in to pay an etsy witch to curse him?
Can we pay roko to eat him?
AI may be smarter than Sam Altman but that’s no singularity.
Gray Goo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gray_goo
By feeding the LLM output back into the LLM and destroying the source material, they are creating a singularity.
The problem is that it is a heat-death-of-the-universe-type singularity.
I don’t understand the link between your comment and gray goo, other than technology potentially destroying society.
Yeah, no scenario though where I’d see that coming out of llm. It’s way out of that capacity.
What we can achieve though is drying up land, creating famine and misery and the crash of society.
The LLMs are committing ecophalogy of knowledge. Their nonsensical output is being fed back into them like an ouroboros, resulting in more nonsensical output.
Humans have been performing ecophagy since hunter-gatherer times, and the rate has increased exponentially since the Industrial Revolutions, but always to the benefit of Humans and humanity.
Now the general-purpose LLMs are being destructively fed all of human knowledge and the data centres are being destructively fed all of our natural resources; not for the benefit of Humans or humanity, but for hubris and apathy.
Diversity of thought is being homogenised as more people use LLMs for mundane tasks that would be quicker, easier and more efficient to do ourselves.
Our own Gray Matter is turning into Gray Goo.
The last sentence would’ve sufficed, thatwe can absolutely agree on.
It’s not that there Weill be ai nanobots rising from llm developing into that, though.
Use your imagination. It’s an analogy.
I’m a technician and Autist. I don’t do wild speculation. I do derive future prospects from technical or physical facts.
And if there’s not a major thing added, it will not happen.
What is the “it” that will not happen?
An llm can and will not have an own conscience or motivation or even possibility of acting of its own.
It can only act triggered and the rest looks like it would be so, but its only parroting
How delightful. Now I can add yet another thing to my ever-growing list of things to be concerned about.
Fucking hell, I hate these damn challenge pages
Same issue for me on iOS
