Its like Hillary walking into a working class kitchen for the first time.
They’ve been shielded from even critical support of China and other AES for so long they literally, not figuratively, literally cannot process that people exist that have beliefs that aren’t Reddit Approved. They immediately assume it’s bots or wumao. Human beings can’t possibly hold these beliefs, so they must be Oriental hordes or actual robots.
🔺 This place is a RussianChinese bot farm disinformation campaign 69k filled with CCP shills and Russian trolls. 🔻 I doubt there are any real human posters here. Edit1: Wow, so many updoots! Edit2: Thanks for the gold, kind stranger!This formatting is incredible, a real work of art.
It looks like that nuclear waste sign. The “This place is not a place of honor” thing.
I tried to click the upvote button but nothing happened !!!
I doubt there are any real human posters here.
redditors are indistinguishable from any AI algorithm response
I doubt there are any real human posters here.
Well, we’re certainly different from the humans you seem to be used to, my lib dude.
I was honestly not excited about federation and still think we will be de-federated within hours (is that possible?) because liberals cannot stand being so consistently embarrassed by Marxists BUT I will say that a major factor in my radicalization was finding r/chapotraphouse years ago back on reddit. For every lib we dunk on, others will start to wonder and ask questions and even laugh along with communist jokes (by far the funniest on the internet). Liberalism actually has an extremely limited appeal, the democrats excite almost no one, and it’s true that some of their more lukewarm supporters just don’t know that you can fight liberalism without being a fucking nazi.
I would disagree that liberalism has “extremely limited” appeal. Many people are perfectly happy with the mediocrity offered by liberalism, and that’s one of the major challenges, that so many people prefer it over radical change of any kind.
Liberalism: acceptable to many, desirable to few.
I mean it’s boosted by the fact that it’s the dominant ideology and permeates everything. for most people, it’s existed without question their entire lives. so I’m not sure how happy people will be with it when they’re offered a real alternative, even among people who objectively benefit from it.
Yeah the benefit of being the default is huge. Incumbency bias is strong, and liberalism doesn’t bad enough at first to most people, so they assume its fine. You either have to be curious about the truth, or get fucked over by the system to really start to question it. It exists in a state of not so bad that people hate it, but clearly not the best, so people just go along with it as it is easiest to do so.
It just needs to fuck you good once and there’s no going back. I had to take my dad in for over 2 years while he slowly died and I had zero help. He had no other family and couldnt afford elder care so and I was stuck changing his piss bags, giving him enemas, feeding him baby food and the only thing anyone offered me was pity.
Fuck this system. Fuck anyone who defends it.
yep, as long as it’s the ideology in schools and media, it’s going to retain that position. the cracks are beginning to show, however. I think neoliberalism is really only the ideology of a few people (who admittedly have significant power) and we’re living through a rebirth of liberalism into a backwards looking ideology that craves its former power and glory. this new ideology is typified by blue MAGA – a reactionary sentiment echoed back when Trump was in office “everything would be fine if only Obama were president”. different groups pick different dates for when they want to turn the clock back to, but it’s overall a reactionary ideology.
I suppose, but I was increasingly frustrated by the way democrats endlessly kowtowed to republicans and how they got nothing, absolutely nothing in return for it. I thought it was just an issue with “corporate democrats” at first, until I witnessed Bernie and AOC’s total capitulation in 2020 and began to understand that this country’s problems go way deeper than fucking campaign contributions. R/chapotraphouse really helped provide answers for my questions, namely reading Marxist theory and history (and responding to fascists and liberals with pigpoopballs).
For me, it was when Bernie campaigned harder for Hillary than she had campaigned for Obama, and then also how “Bernie Bros” were blamed for her ensuing loss to a human cheeto.
I personally take it less as people finding liberalism appealing, and more that real change is scary and entails the possibility of suffering and death.
Bingo! There’s been police homicide and torture cases after 2020 and I don’t totally buy the Ray Epps narrative from the press. I sometimes wonder if the capitol riot was a way to try to keep the largescale 2020 protests from happening as the cops still commit murder. Make no mistake, the unrest following Floyd was bigger than the unrest following MLK. It went global.
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I think the only people to whom liberalism really appeals to are those who are entirely disengaged. I think anybody who becomes active immediately begins to discover liberalism’s inherent contradictions, and finds themselves faced with the reality of either becoming some variety of fascist or socialist, depending on what their true values are.
I would disagree that liberalism only appeals to people who are entirely disengaged.
There are so many passionate and obsessed liberals. People who do canvassing, go to peaceful protests (while criticizing protests that are too disruptive), DVR MSNBC shows, listen to Pod Save guys, etc.
there’s a kind of desperation in the way a lot of libs cling to their ideology though, a sense that it must hold or unknown terrors will consume them. I don’t think it’s particularly stable, especially if a real worker’s party were to offer a clear alternative.
a sense that it must hold or unknown terrors will consume them.
“Better the devil you know than the devil you don’t”
Those canvassing/protesting positions are fairly good opportunities for those seeking to push obsessed liberals toward the left libertarian end of things. A few poignant questions and a “based on that, you might be an anarchist” can be powerful.
That’s how I was prompted to dig deeper, and end up with a more “radical” descriptor. One conversation while canvassing to open the door. Prior I would have described myself as liberal because I didn’t know a while lot about other options, but my actual views didn’t change much at all.
Oh yeah… I once had an argument with a Bernie supporter who wanted a Domestic Terrorist Alert List. The argument got heated and I wasn’t really for gun control if the police are still armed.
She called the cops to my fucking apartment.
I literally found CTH because I saw liberals on r/latestagecapitalism talking about “the scary dirtbag chapos” who “tell right-wingers to post hog” and was thought to myself “Wait no these people sound awesome, actually. I am so sick of people trying to play nice with actual Nazis” and decided to see what you guys were actually like and it turns out you aren’t scary at all. Lol.
I also found LSC first, then after someone mentioned CTH I started lurking there, because it was just better. After CTH was banned, LSC went full
with Bill Gates praising and shit, and it was just depressing to read at that point.no im scary
Put it this way, CTH was tiny compared to the size of reddit yet it had such an impact on the site that Reddit’s admins wanted it gone to stop the left pressure it created.
Hexbear is significantly larger comparatively when compared with the size of Lemmy. The influence we have on Lemmy is larger than it was on reddit. Currently at least, assuming Lemmy continues to grow that might not be true in future, but for now it absolutely is. Particularly because we’re only on a few instances.
Because CTH established one of the essential steps towards a revolutionary movement: “an alternative cultural pole”. So it was dangerous and had to be destroyed.
Is “an alternative cultural pole” a phrase from some theoretical work? Asking because it sounds interesting, and I came up short on DuckDuckGo.
I made it up lol, but its from gramsci, I think he used countercultural hegemon or something.
Haha nice I was wondering if it was Gramscian
I actually don’t think I’ve seen anything like this on this site before:
oml I just found out why we have this as an emote lmfao
I suggested that 😎
First custom emote on the website too!
Basically the @yogthos@lemmygrad.ml signifier over there
Yeah, that’s how it was born. Because we started about joking how to identify Yogthos in a lemmy.ml thread without reading lmao
LMAO
It should be :neverstopposting:
oh back when the site first launched, comments would get squished until they were 1 character wide, so the replies would be entirely vertical. and the threads would continue anyway because people were replying from their inbox.
and I’d do it again
throwback to the
days but the lemmy UI makes going deep in threads a far more pleasant experience, especially since the websockets removal🏳️🌈
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We’re reaching power levels we never even imagined
To the reddit refugee, liberals, whatever: Your system is evil. You may not notice it because you are a cozy Labour aristocrat (even if doing “manual” labor, lmao) mostly worried about your slice of the bloody fucking pie. One week as an out trans person sees more hate than you will ever experience, there is fucking blood on most of the things you consume for fun, ask yourself how you get this or that snazzy device you fucking uncaring roman. Ask yourself why bananas are cheaper than apples in North America, ask yourself why thousands of migrants drown in the fucking piss water you euro fucks skinny dip in, who fucking harvests your watery shit vegetables.
Look at the millionaire while he pretends he is your friend, listen to the pod, check your boxes, do your “polsci”, read the virtual toilet rag editorials, shudder at the thought of fucked up, desperate people doing honest mistakes, fall for the lies, laugh at the Stalin quote about his heart of stone, then notice you don’t even have anything close to a heart beating in your pilates toned, conscious living chest
Your system is rotten. Some of us honestily tried to fix it, but you wouldn’t have it. Vote Blue if you think it saves you, you could at least admit you are being blackmailed by a duopoly. Europe: You couldn’t even get out of the neoliberal shit if you wanted to. You are too stagnant and now you are falling to the guys you derided as untermensch, “uneducated”, or “autocratic” (rich coming from you lmao)
I, personally, have no great hopes for china, though you might ask yourself why your “concern” is so focused on this country, while you never acted up before about any western injustice. But fuck you and fuck anything you stand for. We will not rush to save it. We hope to survive, at least some of us, despite of all your “help” and “efforts”
This goes hard, I hope something from here ends up as a new header.
what do you get when you cross a mentally ill loner with a SOCIETY that ABANDONS HIM AND TREATS HIM LIKE TRASH?!Spoiler
Some good rants I hope
nitpick but the German term is “untermensch” (plural: untermenschen).
You’re not wrong but this is pretty cringe
Bravo! You mentioned so many stuff any reasonable human can deduce by themselves, but they just refuse to.
I would add big difference with China: China is not pretending that they are nice and humane and always right. I never heard them preaching to someone and pretending they are better humans with more humanity than others. No hypocrisy in which EU is drawing in, started to be obvious (to me) in 2014 with Greece and all masks fell down during covid and totally confirmed with war in Ukraine.
Thay, agajn, managed to create a war between slavs and now are setting up our brothers in west africa to fight among themselves, I really hope they will resist this time.
Hexbear has 565 users/day and there are not even 500 upbears on this thread.
Beep boop I am programmed to destroy the west boop beep.
Good bot. Start any time, the people of the west yearn for freedom.
Chinese bot accounts have more humanity than western liberals
Say what you will about those Chinese bots, I’ve never heard one advocate for a nuclear holocaust.
Chinese bot: “I’m just wandering around China eating good food and enjoying scenery. Look at this cool train and neat skyscrapers. Panda!”
Western liberal: “BLOOD! BLOOD! BLOOD! THE LINE CAN ONLY BE APPEASED BY THE SACRIFICE OF THE VITAL ESSENSE OF THE POOR ON THE ALTAR OF CIVILITY!”
😋
I wish I could wander around China eating good food and looking at cool trains
go gett’em
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Charles de Gaulle is the embodiment of
Not a fan, but when hes right hes right
He had some bangers. If he were alive today his posting power would eclipse our big wet boy.
WAIT A MINUTE THAT’S NOT FROM AN APPROVED SOURCE ON MY MEDIA BIAS INFOGRAPHIC.
MODS MODS PLEASE REMOVE THIS
THESE CLAIMS AREN’T BACKED BY A DNC NGO, THEREFORE IT’S DANGEROUS MISINFORMATION THAT’S HELPING REPUBLICANS WIN.
THOSE ATROCITIES COMMITTED BY THE US WERE NECESSARY TO DEVELOP THE RULES BASED INTERNATIONAL ORDER, I’M SORRY IT HAPPENED BUT WE COULDN’T BE HERE NOW WITHOUT IT.
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
chart for visiting libs to throw a dart at before calling us tankies
is this shit actually real? there’s several I’ve never seen before, the brainrot is even worse than I thought
i remember the unicorn one, it was the reason i stopped believing anything bad about north korea when it came from an english source when i was a socdem
WHY ARE THERE OVER 700 COMMENTS ON THIS
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE, COMRADES?!
Look. I may have underrestimated how this is would have gone. Sorry to the server hosting PPB. It was supposed to be a jab at libs that wasn’t worthy of a separate post on dunk tank
I think we’re actually hug-of-deathing ourselves
Legit DDoSing ourselves to own the libs
this is so sad. can we get 1000 comments? be sure to like and subscribe !
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Everybody posting from a Hexbear account can instantly be disregarded as a Russian bot. They need to read more Wikipedia pages about China and North Korea instead of fairy tales about make believe economics
It’s sad because even Wikipedia has a better grasp of what happened in cases like tinyman square than these libs do. We on hexbear are haunted by the specter of Harry Potter being the only literature liberals have read on their own accord
It’s funny to me that Libs simultaneously believe that Russia is a gas station with an army but at the same time has a legion of Turing-complete bots capable of shitposting.
It’s funny to me that Libs simultaneously believe that Russia is a gas station with an army but at the same time has a legion of consumer grade GPUs
we’re all ChatGPT in here lol
I’m a computer
I’m a computery guy
Everythings made out of buttons and wires
I’m glad we aren’t a propagandized echo chamber like those putin bots
Here are links that explain why i disagree with you on china
Mods! MOOOOODS!
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the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
Wow so you think it’s okay that landlords were killed and the land was given back to the working class it was stolen from. No wonder everyone hates hexbear, this filth site is full of hatred.
